From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 00:12:57 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:12:57 -0400 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: 2008/3/31 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : > This weekend I worked with the RSS bits that Ricky committed last week > and put together a 100% functional feed-enabled front page: > > http://quaid.fedorapeople.org/websites/index-rss.html Looks very nice so far, this is cool. I think maybe the same background color as 'get-fedora', and the rounded corners on the 'boxes' containing the individual feeds. > If you all agree, I'll be glad to make the changes into > fp.org/data/content/index.html directly and commit them for further > review. Let me know if the git repo above is useful as-is, if I need to > tweak something, or if you'd prefer that I post patches for review. +1 to getting changes into the git repo. I am not sure we have a policy for 'feature additions'[0] in terms of version control but creating $some_branch would get it in everyones hands. And then we can worry about getting changes into master>live. -- Craig [0] features that maybe take longer than actual bug fixes, so lets not get them in the queue (master) until they are ready. But, spoken as a long time svn user who has not mastered git foo yet, but feels this exact kind of pain at $dayjob. > - Karsten > -- > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com > Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > gpg key : AD0E0C41 From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 1 08:01:22 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:01:22 +0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 13:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Jon Stanley wrote: >>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>>> >>>>> A first thing would be, IMO, to define when we start counting. I see >>>>> two >>>>> possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30 >>>>> days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate. >>>> The problem with starting this far out is that we're still not >>>> entirely sure if we're going to slip the release date or not, based >>>> upon the slips that we've had so far in the schedule (we've lost about >>>> 2 weeks to slips thus far). We're trying like hell to release on 4/29 >>>> as planned, but there's a (not so) small chance that won't happen. It >>>> would look fairly bad to "turn back the clock" when/if we slip. >>> This is why we probably should escalate this to the right level and get >>> an advice (as good as it could be made, we all know delays may happen >>> even in the last week) about the date. >>> >>> I believe ReleaseEngineering is the proper entity to ask about this, do >>> we have anyone here connected to it? >> CC'ing rel-eng. > > At this time we're not slipping. However even if we did, we can just > reset the counter back a little bit. It's not really worse than having > our release date change on the schedule page. It certainly wouldn't be > the first case of a computer progress timer going backwards... So we can start the counter whenever we want. Just say a number and counter images will be produced starting from that day. So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3af39c9c5a77315deeaf2 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 1 09:51:11 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:21:11 +0530 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > > So we can start the counter whenever we want. Just say a number and > counter images will be produced starting from that day. > > So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3af39c9c5a77315deeaf2 Run with it then. 30 days starting today if you count release time in US. Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 1 11:24:48 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:24:48 +0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> So we can start the counter whenever we want. Just say a number and >> counter images will be produced starting from that day. >> >> So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3af39c9c5a77315deeaf2 > > > Run with it then. 30 days starting today if you count release time in US. Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From pribyl at lowlevel.cz Tue Apr 1 11:34:04 2008 From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > This weekend I worked with the RSS bits that Ricky committed last week > and put together a 100% functional feed-enabled front page: > > http://quaid.fedorapeople.org/websites/index-rss.html > > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Would it be possible to differentiate the author and topic title in planet feed? E.g. by a font size or color? Adam Pribyl From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 1 16:34:11 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:34:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > This weekend I worked with the RSS bits that Ricky committed last week > and put together a 100% functional feed-enabled front page: > I know its a bit late for this but can we not do this on our front page? Exactly what are we trying to accomplish and is putting this feed on the very first thing people see when people look for Fedora accomplishing that? I certainly don't have veto powers over the website or anything like that but I've fought 3 fights already to keep stuff off of the main page. I missed this one or I would have fought it too. I say again: There's a reason http://www.google.com/ is king and http://www.yahoo.com/ isn't. If google can exist at the size it is with the simple home page it has and we can't, we've done something wrong. 2 cents. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 1 16:36:09 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:36:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: news.fedoraproject.org In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0803251918m2e54e350sfb4d53ea932f002b@mail.gmail.com> References: <416ff6804984c15d497dd9698f1fe4bb@www.questionsplease.org> <369bce3b0803251918m2e54e350sfb4d53ea932f002b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Thomas Chung wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Roberts > wrote: > > 2) Depending on the above, do we want to use Lyceum or Wordpress? Infra > > would like us to have whatever solution we use packaged and yumable on > > Fedora; Wordpress is already in while Lyceum needs packaging. As I > > understand it Lyceum allows us to have multiple blogs and is what's used by > > Red Hat Magazine. Wordpress only allows for the one blog, but would also > > allow multiple authors/editors on a single blog (I think). > > One of the question we need to answer is why Lyceum instead of WordPress. > We can get some answer from their FAQ page[1] but, I also have some > concerns on WordPress plugins compatibility with Lyceum. > WordPress already have thousands of useful plugins[2] and there have > been some reports that not all WordPress pugins are compatible with > Lyceum and they may need to re-written or ported over. I guess the > real question is do we really need multi-blogger for our needs? We > appreciated if we can hear your comments or suggestions. > Regards, > > [1] http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/faq/ > [2] http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/ > We haven't 'picked' either of them yet but we are currently running with lyceum. make sure jonrob knows your concerns as he'll likely have ultimate say which one we go with. Side note about MU. Its horrible and we could just barely get it up and running. -Mike From kivanc.gumusler at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 13:02:41 2008 From: kivanc.gumusler at gmail.com (Kivanc GUMUSLER) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:02:41 +0300 Subject: About Turkish Message-ID: Hi, Have you got any project about fedora Turkish language site? If not i can translate site to the turkish. Thanks for your attention. -- Kivanc GUMUSLER From kristoffersalve at hotmail.com Tue Apr 1 20:24:45 2008 From: kristoffersalve at hotmail.com (Kristoffer Salvesen) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 22:24:45 +0200 Subject: Project Fedora. Message-ID: Hello. My Windows has just crashed for the tenth time, so I have desided to trie out fedora (Linux). How would this software work for an beginner? And on your webpage I can see that there is many different downloads (Direct Download i386 - Install DVD x86_64 - Install DVD ppc - Install DVD) Wich one is the one I sholud choose? Whats the differensies? Best regards Kristoffer. (From Norway, the reason for the bad english;) _________________________________________________________________ F? den nye Windows Live Messenger! http://get.live.com/messenger/overview -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I completed > all of the checklists those are listed on the Wiki page, but I don't > find information for some type of Subversions...? Welcome! We use a lot of Python in Fedora's websites (and in general), so that's great. The Fedora website is stored in a git repository, with instructions to setup your own instance at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs. At the moment, we're mostly working on getting the Fedora 9 website ready, but we have quite a few open website tasks (mostly templating/theming our various apps): https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&component=Webmaster&order=priority and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PageRequests Let us know if you're interested in some of these tasks. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also we have rounded in the graphic ad widget things, but otherwise it's pretty much 90-degrees all over the project pages. After seeing that all over redhat.com for years, I'm sort-of in to the square edges. :) > > If you all agree, I'll be glad to make the changes into > > fp.org/data/content/index.html directly and commit them for further > > review. Let me know if the git repo above is useful as-is, if I need to > > tweak something, or if you'd prefer that I post patches for review. > > +1 to getting changes into the git repo. I am not sure we have a > policy for 'feature additions'[0] in terms of version control but > creating $some_branch would get it in everyones hands. And then we > can worry about getting changes into master>live. Yeah, I'm not sure how to make that happen cleanly, though. Anyone want to clear that up for me? > -- > Craig > > [0] > features that maybe take longer than actual bug fixes, so lets not get > them in the queue (master) until they are ready. But, spoken as a long > time svn user who has not mastered git foo yet, but feels this exact > kind of pain at $dayjob. > > > > - Karsten > > -- > > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > > Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com > > Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > > gpg key : AD0E0C41 > -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kwade at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 01:09:10 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:09:10 -0700 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1207098550.30372.572.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 13:34 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > This weekend I worked with the RSS bits that Ricky committed last week > > and put together a 100% functional feed-enabled front page: > > > > http://quaid.fedorapeople.org/websites/index-rss.html > > > > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > > Would it be possible to differentiate the author and topic title in planet > feed? E.g. by a font size or color? Not the way the Python appears to be written; it pulls in ${entry.title}, and that is all together in the feed from the planet: http://planet.fedoraproject.org/rss20.xml I think it would need to differentiate within the feed for us to parse it. We cannot rely upon the : character in case it ends up in a title later, or it would be a pretty careful regexp hack. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 2 01:11:05 2008 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:11:05 -0400 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207098550.30372.572.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207098550.30372.572.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1207098665.15651.54.camel@cutter> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 18:09 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 13:34 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > > > This weekend I worked with the RSS bits that Ricky committed last week > > > and put together a 100% functional feed-enabled front page: > > > > > > http://quaid.fedorapeople.org/websites/index-rss.html > > > > > > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > > > > Would it be possible to differentiate the author and topic title in planet > > feed? E.g. by a font size or color? > > Not the way the Python appears to be written; it pulls in > ${entry.title}, and that is all together in the feed from the planet: > > http://planet.fedoraproject.org/rss20.xml > > I think it would need to differentiate within the feed for us to parse > it. We cannot rely upon the : character in case it ends up in a title > later, or it would be a pretty careful regexp hack. the rss output is a template that gets dumped out, just to clarify a bit. -sv From juankprada at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 02:29:47 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:29:47 -0500 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 11:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > I certainly don't have veto powers over the website or anything like that > but I've fought 3 fights already to keep stuff off of the main page. I > missed this one or I would have fought it too. I say again: > > There's a reason http://www.google.com/ is king and http://www.yahoo.com/ > isn't. If google can exist at the size it is with the simple home page it > has and we can't, we've done something wrong. Im not an authority here but one thing that ive discussed a lot with some other people is the lack of information fp.o currently has. I understand the point of not filling every possible white space in the site with information, but Im sure many people here agree that there are a lot of white spaces that are not being used that, if we use them carefully and esthetically we can manage to get a great website with enough information and not too overwhelming for the eye I proposed a similar idea some time ago by adding a third column to the current design and only having one section handling rss news. I still like more that idea than this one, as having three different sections just for news is like wasting space unnecessarily (only one column with news is enough and leaves more space for some other important things) Anyway this is just a proposal and as i said to Karsten Wade, im really happy to see somebody working on this. From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 02:44:14 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 11:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > I certainly don't have veto powers over the website or anything like that > > but I've fought 3 fights already to keep stuff off of the main page. I > > missed this one or I would have fought it too. I say again: > > > > There's a reason http://www.google.com/ is king and http://www.yahoo.com/ > > isn't. If google can exist at the size it is with the simple home page it > > has and we can't, we've done something wrong. > > Im not an authority here but one thing that ive discussed a lot with some other people is > the lack of information fp.o currently has. I understand the point of not filling every > possible white space in the site with information, but Im sure many people here agree that > there are a lot of white spaces that are not being used that, if we use them carefully and esthetically > we can manage to get a great website with enough information and not too overwhelming for the eye Lack of information? Whats missing? Be extremely specific. Also let me know that of the information you find missing, how it will be fulfilled by linking to planet, devfu and FWM? Remember, we're not adding content. Just more things to click on. I'm almost positive I'm in the minority here but I'm taking a difficult position of simplicity (as you'll find I almost always will). -Mike From juankprada at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 03:30:46 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:30:46 -0500 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 21:44 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 11:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > I certainly don't have veto powers over the website or anything like that > > > but I've fought 3 fights already to keep stuff off of the main page. I > > > missed this one or I would have fought it too. I say again: > > > > > > There's a reason http://www.google.com/ is king and http://www.yahoo.com/ > > > isn't. If google can exist at the size it is with the simple home page it > > > has and we can't, we've done something wrong. > > > > Im not an authority here but one thing that ive discussed a lot with some other people is > > the lack of information fp.o currently has. I understand the point of not filling every > > possible white space in the site with information, but Im sure many people here agree that > > there are a lot of white spaces that are not being used that, if we use them carefully and esthetically > > we can manage to get a great website with enough information and not too overwhelming for the eye > > Lack of information? Whats missing? Be extremely specific. Also let me > know that of the information you find missing, how it will be fulfilled by > linking to planet, devfu and FWM? Remember, we're not adding content. > Just more things to click on. > You are right about the planet and maybe about devfu, what i do not agree is about fwn. I think that the idea of having a website for the project is to let people knoe about the project and not just about the released distro. News are important to the community and having news in the front page is always a good idea. I dont know anybody who likes to read news that also likes to start digging here and there just to find whats new. As in a newspaper the first page is what will catch people attention, and having a very simplistic style with no news and just saying the general idea of the fedora project is not that appealing. As of what you said about google's success having a clean interface, its kinda irrelevant here (no offense) but, google is a completly different application. it is meant to be a browser and just that so it focus its attention on being a browser. Of course they have lot more applications and each one has its own interface but the thing is that... google is an aplication not an informative website which should focus on a completly different goal. our primary purpose with the website (at least thats what i think) is to catch people attention and that can only be achieved by showing information. Perhaps this is not a discussion to be made on this topic but as an example, i cant see good information about how to get involved, we simply specify a link to the wiki and thats all, so we are leaving that kind of information to another application (the wiki) which i think its making useless the fp.o website. Another example is the download section, yes we say "these are all the ways you can install fedora" but then we dont say which is better for the user (i385, x86_64, etc...) Having information in the front page makes it easier to let people know what they want without making them digg into the website, and in the website world i think thats a plus in terms of usability. Im not a marketing expert so i dont really know what would be better to set on the front page to get people atention, probably somebody better than me and more informed about the project could share his ideas about what catch people attention. As for me, i think news and Events are one of the more important things to show in the front page. -- Juan Camilo Prada From kwade at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 04:16:02 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:16:02 -0700 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1207109762.30372.600.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 11:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > This weekend I worked with the RSS bits that Ricky committed last week > > and put together a 100% functional feed-enabled front page: > > > > I know its a bit late for this but can we not do this on our front page? Glad you weighed in, I've been wanting to counter the "But look at Gooooogle! It's so slick and bare and minimum and cooool! Why would we want more on a page than a search box?" meme that gets tossed around. :) > Exactly what are we trying to accomplish and is putting this feed on the > very first thing people see when people look for Fedora accomplishing > that? We are providing a view into: * Community vibrancy * Community content * Community events and announcements Let's check how popular they are compared to other parts of the Fedora front page by watching the traffic they attract. There is not universal agreement that "bare minimum" is enough for our front page. There seems to be a trend for, "pare to bare minimum, then slowly increase and see where that gets us." This is part of that philosophy. > I certainly don't have veto powers over the website or anything like that > but I've fought 3 fights already to keep stuff off of the main page. I > missed this one or I would have fought it too. This has your comments: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/357 Note that the original request came, iirc, from a discussion you and I had at FUDCon. I don't recall any invoking of the Great Google God of UI Design at that time. > I say again: > > There's a reason http://www.google.com/ is king and http://www.yahoo.com/ > isn't. If google can exist at the size it is with the simple home page it > has and we can't, we've done something wrong. Mike, when Fedora is a search engine, then your argument will make sense. We are instead a vibrant community trying to attract contributors, developers, and a few users. Where that is more important to Google, their pages are richer[1]. Giving those people the bare minimum ... well, is it working? Is it not working? How do we know? Do you read the emails that come in to webmaster@ and askfedora@ about what people can and cannot find on our websites? Sure, no one has said, "Where is your news feed?" but how will they even know if we don't show them that it exists. A feed does this: * Shows the existence of something useful * Does something useful (link to the feed source, link to article, direct RSS feed link, etc.) As opposed to a dead link that just hints at something useful. To put this another way, I'd TOTALLY REPLACE the links to "Documentation" and "Release Notes" on fp.org and start.fp.org with a cool feed like this: Docs/Kbase Latest kbase entry 1 Latest kbase entry 2 Latest FAQ entry 1 Latest Doc updated ... with 'Docs' a link to docs.fp.o and 'kbase' a link to (the fictional) kbase.fp.o. Now, you can argue that "Docs" and "Kbase" as pure links are good enough. Sure. If you know what you are looking for and that it is contained in "Docs" or "Kbase". What if I want to know how to join Fedora? Do I know if "Docs" is or is not going to help me with just the word "Docs"? OK, so now we've added "Join". etc. Non-dynamic links are not always the best way to link to information. So, let's agree that minimalistic has its advantages, and recognize that it has to be tuned to the situation. Fedora's pages need the right balance, and "look like Google" just ain't it. - Karsten [1] Richer Google pages: http://gmail.com http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ http://docs.google.com/ They have one, big purpose on their front page (search) that ties into all these other, niche purposes. If our only purpose was to distribute Fedora, we could do "Get Fedora" and have a search box, and that's it. But it unfortunately is not our only goal, so overly minimalistic design fails us. -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From mostafa at daneshvar.org.uk Wed Apr 2 06:23:34 2008 From: mostafa at daneshvar.org.uk (Mostafa Daneshvar) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:53:34 +0430 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804021053.38818.mostafa@daneshvar.org.uk> Welcome Grady Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hello all, > I'm Grady Laksmono and a student who would like to contribute with > Fedora Website project. I'm currently a Web Programmer for College of > Engineering, Computer Science, and Technology at California State > University, Los Angeles. I use PHP in most of the web development work > that I have done, but I'm really curious and have a high desire to > learn more about Python. I'm quite new with the open source > development and how can I contribute to the project, so is there any > specific documentation that can help me to get started? I completed > all of the checklists those are listed on the Wiki page, but I don't > find information for some type of Subversions...? > > Thanks, > Grady Laksmono > www.laksmono.com -- Mostafa Daneshvar -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 13:56:55 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 08:56:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 21:44 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > > Lack of information? Whats missing? Be extremely specific. Also let me > > know that of the information you find missing, how it will be fulfilled by > > linking to planet, devfu and FWM? Remember, we're not adding content. > > Just more things to click on. > > > You are right about the planet and maybe about devfu, what i do not > agree is about fwn. I think that the idea of having a website for the > project is to let people knoe about the project and not just about the > released distro. News are important to the community and having news in > the front page is always a good idea. I dont know anybody who likes to > read news that also likes to start digging here and there just to find > whats new. As in a newspaper the first page is what will catch people > attention, and having a very simplistic style with no news and just > saying the general idea of the fedora project is not that appealing. You'll be happy to know that FWN is linked on the main page and other pages via a banner ad then. So that problem is already taken care of. > As of what you said about google's success having a clean interface, > its kinda irrelevant here (no offense) but, google is a completly different > application. it is meant to be a browser and just that so it focus its attention > on being a browser. Of course they have lot more applications and each one has > its own interface but the thing is that... google is an aplication not an informative website > which should focus on a completly different goal. Fine, lets not talk about google. Lets talk about www.debian.com. Is that more what you had in mind? The fact is that its _HARD_ to say a lot in a little space. But its worth it to do it. We still don't have one persons vision on the website so everyone gets on board and says "Look what we could do!" Which is just going to turn the website to crap. We've done it once already, less then a year ago the website was almost unusable. So much crap, most of it developer oriented, so when users showed up they had no idea what to do. > our primary purpose with the website (at least thats what i think) is to catch people attention > and that can only be achieved by showing information. Perhaps this is not a discussion to be made on this topic > but as an example, i cant see good information about how to get involved, we simply specify a link to the wiki > and thats all, so we are leaving that kind of information to another application (the wiki) which i think > its making useless the fp.o website. Thats because the wiki is full of developer content. There's a few things in there for the end user. But I'd wager less then 10% of the 10,000+ uncontroled pages to which no one is accountable is for an end user. We linked to the wiki because we figured people were used to drinking the sand. In my opinion the wiki shouldn't be linked to directly from there anyway. > Another example is the download section, yes we say "these are all the ways you can install fedora" but then > we dont say which is better for the user (i385, x86_64, etc...) So fix the download page. Not the landing page. > Having information in the front page makes it easier to let people know what they want > without making them digg into the website, and in the website world i think thats a plus in terms of > usability. What information? I was very VERY specific in asking you for what information was missing from the main page and you (and no one else so far) has given me any information thats missing from the front page. The fact is the categories we have on the main page are exactly what people are looking for. Getting involved, getting fedora, docs. > Im not a marketing expert so i dont really know what would be better to set on the front page to get people > atention, probably somebody better than me and more informed about the project could share his ideas about > what catch people attention. As for me, i think news and Events are one of the more important things to show > in the front page. > Yeah, www.debian.org is a real attention getter. And at 117 links on the main page its a wonder anyone gets anywhere. Simpler == harder. Simpler == better. But without someone taking care of the website people are just going to constantly say "hey, this should be on the front page" with no one saying no. Just last month a group, very losely related to Fedora (and as a group does not report to the board in any way) wanted to add a whole other banner system to the website on the main page. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 14:00:07 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:00:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207109762.30372.600.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207109762.30372.600.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 11:34 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > > > This weekend I worked with the RSS bits that Ricky committed last week > > > and put together a 100% functional feed-enabled front page: > > > > > > > I know its a bit late for this but can we not do this on our front page? > > Glad you weighed in, I've been wanting to counter the "But look at > Gooooogle! It's so slick and bare and minimum and cooool! Why would we > want more on a page than a search box?" meme that gets tossed around. :) > I'm taking my dog out of this fight seeing as A) I'm alone and B) don't have the time to follow up on this. I'll get back in the fight in about 6 months if the website starts to look like this. http://www.debian.org/ or http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/ We're at 22 links on the main page. $ wget -qO- http://fedoraproject.org/ | grep -i href -c 22 -Mike From richard-harrison at comcast.net Wed Apr 2 14:47:44 2008 From: richard-harrison at comcast.net (richard-harrison at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:47:44 +0000 Subject: feed'd front page ready Message-ID: <040220081447.1142.47F39C90000273F200000476221653849602019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> > I'm taking my dog out of this fight seeing as A) I'm alone and B) don't > have the time to follow up on this. You're not entirely alone in your sentiments towards simplicity. I too prefer elegance to the fullest degree reasonable. This debate seems utterly related to usability and interaction design. Note that I am not a user interaction or design engineer; I'm a programmer and can implement anything that someone ELSE can design, but I know better than to pretend to be being gifted at layout stuff. Don't we have any design/interaction folks who can (be enticed, cajoled, coerced, etc. to) weigh in on the visual design and use-flow of the interface? From pappajohnsr49 at bellsouth.net Wed Apr 2 05:26:31 2008 From: pappajohnsr49 at bellsouth.net (pappajohnsr49) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:26:31 -0500 Subject: Linux OR Bust Message-ID: <00c901c89482$9bbc5710$6101a8c0@EMW30522005> I have 3 Dell Latitude 266mhz /128mb laptops in pretty good shape, but too slow for XP. I just cant seem to find a version of Linux that fits. A few I tried just froze up . Who could I talk to... to find a workable version? I got the laptops for the G-kids. I hate to have to tell em.... 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Just last month a group, very losely related to Fedora > (and as a group does not report to the board in any way) wanted to add a > whole other banner system to the website on the main page. Then what is the idea of having a website team if its not gonna decide what should be in the website?. I think the website team is the one who moderate and decide about the website the idea of letting anyone show what they think should be in the website is just to let the website team see what people wants, but at the end the decision is made by the project. On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 14:47 +0000, richard-harrison at comcast.net wrote: > > I'm taking my dog out of this fight seeing as A) I'm alone and B) don't > > have the time to follow up on this. > You're not entirely alone in your sentiments towards simplicity. I too prefer elegance to the fullest degree reasonable. > > This debate seems utterly related to usability and interaction design. Note that I am not a user interaction or design engineer; I'm a programmer and can implement anything that someone ELSE can design, but I know better than to pretend to be being gifted at layout stuff. Don't we have any design/interaction folks who can (be enticed, cajoled, coerced, etc. to) weigh in on the visual design and use-flow of the interface? > i think anyone here on the website team or who has joined the project want a debian like website representing us. But i also think we dont want a google like website representing us!. As i already said, we cant just fill every white space with information, but we can provide what is useful. As richard said, we have some guys at the art team who can help us, Mairin Duffy has prove to be a great website designer (sorry for all the others who have participated in web design for fedora but i can only remmember her name) So lets work along with them. From kwade at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 16:01:11 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:01:11 -0700 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207149144.3923.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <040220081447.1142.47F39C90000273F200000476221653849602019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <1207149144.3923.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1207152071.4581.13.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:12 -0500, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 08:56 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > Yeah, www.debian.org is a real attention getter. And at 117 links on the > > main page its a wonder anyone gets anywhere. Simpler == harder. Simpler > > == better. But without someone taking care of the website people are just > > going to constantly say "hey, this should be on the front page" with no > > one saying no. Just last month a group, very losely related to Fedora > > (and as a group does not report to the board in any way) wanted to add a > > whole other banner system to the website on the main page. > > Then what is the idea of having a website team if its not gonna decide what should be > in the website?. I think the website team is the one who moderate and decide about the website > the idea of letting anyone show what they think should be in the website is just to let the website team > see what people wants, but at the end the decision is made by the project. +1 That is the process I am following. Bringing ideas here to debate, showing mock-ups and working versions, fixing based on feedback, etc. Sadly our UI designers are not as numerous as the rest of us geeks. Maybe a simple rule to follow is to not make any real changes like this without getting the weigh-in of Mairin, Mike Langlie, Bryan Clark, or any of the other UI designers who might drop in here. By putting such control in the hands of this community, we are trying to attract more UI designers. We're likely to be stuck with a design-by-committee approach unless a strong enough personality, with the right skills, and enough time to devote takes over and helps to enforce a single vision. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate for more detals. Rahul From kwade at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 16:15:21 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:15:21 -0700 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1207152921.4581.23.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 08:56 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > You'll be happy to know that FWN is linked on the main page and other > pages via a banner ad then. So that problem is already taken care of. Banners are cute ways to attract attention, but unless they are diagrams or interactive, pixel-by-pixel they are a huge waste of space compared to words. Static words are useful, but pixel-by-pixel are a waste of space compared to dynamic content. > In my opinion the wiki shouldn't be linked to directly from there > anyway. The wiki needs to be re-invented to include community documentation that is useful to end-users. Hiding it isn't going to accomplish that. > > Another example is the download section, yes we say "these are all the ways you can install fedora" but then > > we dont say which is better for the user (i385, x86_64, etc...) > > So fix the download page. Not the landing page. +1 > > Having information in the front page makes it easier to let people know what they want > > without making them digg into the website, and in the website world i think thats a plus in terms of > > usability. > > What information? I was very VERY specific in asking you for what > information was missing from the main page and you (and no one else so > far) has given me any information thats missing from the front page. The > fact is the categories we have on the main page are exactly what people > are looking for. Getting involved, getting fedora, docs. We have a few different directions to take. One is to do everything from various gut instincts, which honestly is what you are proposing. "Simpler is better." Yes on a child's tape player; no in a cockpit. Without anything to compare what we did with what we are doing with what we might do, we are just shooting in the dark. At least having different content on the front page we can have some better idea of what people are and are not doing. Do more or fewer people click on the Planet links than on the "Join" links? Do more or fewer people click on an RHM article about how-to do something in Fedora than on the "Docs" link? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In my opinion the wiki shouldn't be linked to directly from there > anyway. > Having spend lots of time on managing wiki content, I wouldn't say trashing it repeatedly as some kind of unwieldy beast is going to help any. If anyone wants to help manage the content better, your contributions are most welcome. Rahul From katzj at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 16:22:49 2008 From: katzj at redhat.com (Jeremy Katz) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:22:49 -0400 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207152921.4581.23.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207152921.4581.23.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1207153369.15065.142.camel@aglarond.local> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:15 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 08:56 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > Another example is the download section, yes we say "these are all the ways you can install fedora" but then > > > we dont say which is better for the user (i385, x86_64, etc...) > > > > So fix the download page. Not the landing page. > > +1 mizmo and I were talking about this last week and she was working on a mockup that she said she was going to post soon... ;-) Jeremy From kwade at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 16:23:34 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:23:34 -0700 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207109762.30372.600.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1207153414.4581.29.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:00 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > I'm taking my dog out of this fight seeing as A) I'm alone You are not alone, but you don't have a plan either. At least have some respect for the existence of this mailing list and the people here, as we try to build process, methods, and leadership. For better or worse, "we" are the people in charge of the website's look, feel, and user experience. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 16:33:06 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:33:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <47F3B23B.7020504@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F3B23B.7020504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > Thats because the wiki is full of developer content. There's a few things > > in there for the end user. But I'd wager less then 10% of the 10,000+ > > uncontroled pages to which no one is accountable is for an end user. We > > linked to the wiki because we figured people were used to drinking the > > sand. In my opinion the wiki shouldn't be linked to directly from there > > anyway. > > > > Having spend lots of time on managing wiki content, I wouldn't say trashing it > repeatedly as some kind of unwieldy beast is going to help any. If anyone > wants to help manage the content better, your contributions are most welcome. > 10,000 pages? Can you give me a rough estimate of what those 10,000 pages are used for? -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 16:34:19 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:34:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207153414.4581.29.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207109762.30372.600.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207153414.4581.29.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:00 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > I'm taking my dog out of this fight seeing as A) I'm alone > > You are not alone, but you don't have a plan either. At least have some > respect for the existence of this mailing list and the people here, as > we try to build process, methods, and leadership. For better or worse, > "we" are the people in charge of the website's look, feel, and user > experience. > I have plenty of respect for everyone on the list. I do. But I'm well aware of what a slippery slope is and I fear that we're doing it. Having said that.... I'm not a UI designer. And thats why I'm not fighting against this any longer. Put 'er up. Bring people to the site. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 16:38:27 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:38:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F3B23B.7020504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > > > > Thats because the wiki is full of developer content. There's a few things > > > in there for the end user. But I'd wager less then 10% of the 10,000+ > > > uncontroled pages to which no one is accountable is for an end user. We > > > linked to the wiki because we figured people were used to drinking the > > > sand. In my opinion the wiki shouldn't be linked to directly from there > > > anyway. > > > > > > > Having spend lots of time on managing wiki content, I wouldn't say trashing it > > repeatedly as some kind of unwieldy beast is going to help any. If anyone > > wants to help manage the content better, your contributions are most welcome. > > > > 10,000 pages? Can you give me a rough estimate of what those 10,000 > pages are used for? > Also the 4,000+ attachments. Can you let me know what those are for? If you detect anger in my voice its because I now have to figure out how to migrate all of that stuff and with the exception of a few people I've had almost no help in doing it. I trash the wiki because it wakes me up at night (literally). I trash the wiki because I can never find anything I'm looking for on it. I trash the wiki because even now as we migrate it to a new platform I see an immense amount of just "Stuff" thats not categorized and to which no one is responsible. -Mike From richard-harrison at comcast.net Wed Apr 2 16:49:27 2008 From: richard-harrison at comcast.net (Richard Harrison) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:49:27 -0400 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <1207152921.4581.23.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207152921.4581.23.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <47F3B917.2020006@comcast.net> Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > "Simpler is better." Yes on a child's tape player; no in a cockpit. Simpler's better in a cockpit too - just enormously harder to achieve. > At least having different content on the front page we can have > some better idea of what people are and are not doing. Permit me introduce the word "funnel" into the discussion (for those previously unacquainted with the term in this context). The idea is that a landing page provides links to the major subdivision of a site by topical areas of interest. Each subdivision offers successively more focused direction to sub-topics, funneling the visitor ever more explicitly toward the desired content. This model does not preclude alternative "quick-links" that provide direct access to the more focused content for the more sophisticated or returning visitor. I appreciate that having a "surf-ever-deeper" to find your goal model is unappealing in some ways, but this brings us back to the interaction design issue. I suspect that each of us owns preconceptions and biases as to the nature of what visitors seek. However, these biases are based in personal preferences not necessarily accurately reflective of what the majority of visitors truly want or expect. On this list alone, over the past, few days, I have seen more than one request that reflects a very limited grasp of geek-dom as it relates to the usage of the website as a tool to access the content. Newbies need things that we do not. I still favor the involvement of REAL user-interaction design folks. Is there a hard deadline on "the final solution"? From ricky at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 2 17:01:49 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:01:49 -0400 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <47F3B917.2020006@comcast.net> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207152921.4581.23.camel@calliope.phig.org> <47F3B917.2020006@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080402170149.GA1771@Max> On 2008-04-02 12:49:27 PM, Richard Harrison wrote: > Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> "Simpler is better." Yes on a child's tape player; no in a cockpit. > Simpler's better in a cockpit too - just enormously harder to achieve. > > >> At least having different content on the front page we can have some >> better idea of what people are and are not doing. > Permit me introduce the word "funnel" into the discussion (for those > previously unacquainted with the term in this context). The idea is that a > landing page provides links to the major subdivision of a site by topical > areas of interest. Each subdivision offers successively more focused > direction to sub-topics, funneling the visitor ever more explicitly toward > the desired content. This model does not preclude alternative "quick-links" > that provide direct access to the more focused content for the more > sophisticated or returning visitor. I appreciate that having a > "surf-ever-deeper" to find your goal model is unappealing in some ways, but > this brings us back to the interaction design issue. I suspect that each of > us owns preconceptions and biases as to the nature of what visitors seek. > However, these biases are based in personal preferences not necessarily > accurately reflective of what the majority of visitors truly want or > expect. On this list alone, over the past, few days, I have seen more than > one request that reflects a very limited grasp of geek-dom as it relates to > the usage of the website as a tool to access the content. Newbies need > things that we do not. Definitely +1. On that note, I'd prefer news to be on a separate news page (and possibly get a large banner on the front page, as Mairin might have mentioned before). > I still favor the involvement of REAL user-interaction design folks. Is > there a hard deadline on "the final solution"? Nope. It'd be nice to have something ready for F9, but we are still free to make changes afterwards. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In my opinion the wiki shouldn't be linked to directly from there >>>> anyway. >>>> >>> Having spend lots of time on managing wiki content, I wouldn't say trashing it >>> repeatedly as some kind of unwieldy beast is going to help any. If anyone >>> wants to help manage the content better, your contributions are most welcome. >>> >> 10,000 pages? Can you give me a rough estimate of what those 10,000 >> pages are used for? >> > > Also the 4,000+ attachments. Can you let me know what those are for? If > you detect anger in my voice its because I now have to figure out how to > migrate all of that stuff and with the exception of a few people I've had > almost no help in doing it. The fact that there is 10,000 pages and 4,000 attachments from people who had to sign the CLA in the first place should tell you how much it is being used by the project. When we have something better to manage that content like the plone stuff that never really materialized, we can trash the wiki. Till then it is the best we got. Rahul From abaheelred at yahoo.ca Thu Apr 3 00:53:50 2008 From: abaheelred at yahoo.ca (nnaa emmanuel) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Linux script Message-ID: <34186.20432.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello !! I?m Emmanuel, a student studying IT in Amsterdam. I was giving an assignment to write a script that will install and configure Apache, MySQL, and PHP on fedora 8 system. I?ve never writing a script before, so it kinda difficult for me to figure out what to write. I would be very grateful if u guys can help me out with this assignment. The deadline for handin is on Friday ( 4th April 2008 ). Thanks a lot !! --------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Changes could be reviewed and cherrypicked into master by $some_one . and #2: -use fedorapeople to host 'personal' git repos. Changes not ready for prime time, or just seeking broader review and collaboration can be pulled by anyone. In my test, only the $user can push. Mods that are $deemed_worthy can be pushed or cherrypicked into master. I personally like #2, but I think either would solve the problem. I like it because it leaves the main repo alone and seems to leverage the power of git's distributed nature; it's fun to play with :-} I have jotted down some notes on how to get a git repo on people space to play with. These "worked for me" : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CraigThomas/PersonalGitRepo Would love thoughts and comments about the idea of sharing code before we are ready to commit it to master. Thanks for listening, -- Craig From ricky at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 3 02:57:55 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 22:57:55 -0400 Subject: sharing code In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080403025755.GB11974@Max> On 2008-04-02 10:46:49 PM, Craig Thomas wrote: > and #2: > > -use fedorapeople to host 'personal' git repos. Changes not ready for > prime time, or just seeking broader review and collaboration can be > pulled by anyone. In my test, only the $user can push. Mods that are > $deemed_worthy can be pushed or cherrypicked into master. > > I personally like #2, but I think either would solve the problem. I > like it because it leaves the main repo alone and seems to leverage > the power of git's distributed nature; it's fun to play with :-} I like #2 as well, and you can use FS ACLs to allow everybody in the web group (or whatever you'd like) to push. There are some docs for this at the bottom of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/fedorapeople.org (and in the setfacl manpage). Now we just have to figure out how to cherrypick neatly :) Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just say a number and >>> counter images will be produced starting from that day. >>> >>> So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3af39c9c5a77315deeaf2 >> >> >> >> Run with it then. 30 days starting today if you count release time in US. > > Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: > http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz Can somone please get this up and running? Possibly replace one of the existing banners like the RHM video introducing Paul. Rahul From kwade at redhat.com Fri Apr 4 01:11:06 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:11:06 -0700 Subject: feed'd front page ready In-Reply-To: <47F3C379.1000005@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206983374.30372.350.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1207103387.5281.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207107047.5281.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F3B23B.7020504@fedoraproject.org> <47F3C379.1000005@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207271466.4585.62.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 23:03 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > The fact that there is 10,000 pages and 4,000 attachments from people > who had to sign the CLA in the first place should tell you how much it > is being used by the project. When we have something better to manage > that content like the plone stuff that never really materialized, we can > trash the wiki. Till then it is the best we got. We're going to have to ask those couple of thousand of people to take some ownership of their content. In the new wiki space, we must make it mandatory that pages have ownership. It can be an individual, a SIG, a project, whatever. FWIW, the 10,000+ pages include a significant amount of l10n, so the number of 'identical content in multiple languages' pages is going to be a fraction of the total. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I see people running their own, I got so far feed-back from translations in Portuguese, Romanian and French. I think is not that good to have people running their own: - if the release will be delayed, many of the counters will get out of sync; - those are usually run in each site's timezone, so it will not be accurate; - the banners may/may not link to the proper location (probably get-fedora); - they are not easily embeddable (see the link below for an example) for everyone's website (usually server-side php). PS: it seems other distros "stole" the idea and have a better run with it: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=423 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Fri Apr 4 13:09:32 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Paul W. Frields (pfrields)) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:09:32 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/translation-quick-start-guide index.php,1.19,1.20 Message-ID: <200804041309.m34D9Wjl031754@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: pfrields Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/translation-quick-start-guide In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv31735 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: Remove out of date versions from listing for now. Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/translation-quick-start-guide/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.19 retrieving revision 1.20 diff -u -r1.19 -r1.20 --- index.php 3 Mar 2008 17:56:21 -0000 1.19 +++ index.php 4 Apr 2008 13:09:01 -0000 1.20 @@ -12,18 +12,18 @@

The Translation Quick Start Guide, a tutorial for translating Fedora programs and documentation, is available in the following languages:

US English | -italiano | -????????? | -Nederlands | -?????????????????? | -polski | -portugu??s | + + + + + + portugu??s brasileiro | From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 15:46:59 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:46:59 +0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47F44D03.20709@fedoraproject.org> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <47F44D03.20709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F64D73.5020507@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: >> http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz > > Can somone please get this up and running? Possibly replace one of the > existing banners like the RHM video introducing Paul. If is is of any help, I got someone contributing, along with an Italian translation of the graphics, his JavaScript: -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From kwade at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 11:01:32 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:01:32 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Change Freeze (IMPORTANT)] Message-ID: <1207479692.4585.192.camel@calliope.phig.org> This counts for all websites activity. We've got nine days to make final changes for F9 and lock down for translation et al. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Mike McGrath Reply-To: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com To: fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com Subject: Change Freeze (IMPORTANT) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:00:59 -0500 (CDT) Just a reminder to everyone that the change freeze will be taking place on April 15th. What does this mean? It means you don't make _ANY_ changes to our infrastructure without running it by the list first with an explanation of why it can't wait until after the freeze is over (April 30th) These dates are dependent on if the release slips and such. Just like last time this is a STRICTLY enforced rule. If you've got any questions. Let us know. -Mike _______________________________________________ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 13:43:41 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:43:41 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Change Freeze (IMPORTANT)] In-Reply-To: <1207479692.4585.192.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1207479692.4585.192.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: 2008/4/6 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : > This counts for all websites activity. We've got nine days to make > final changes for F9 and lock down for translation et al. Do we have a list of things we are needing/wanting to get done in that time ? I see 2 tasks: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/1?sort=component&asc=0 #55 what other sites are we looking to fedora CSSify ? #411 is just to track our items for the launch, I believe. I am betting that there are more things people want by F9 on the websites ? I know we have a 'how to verify your download' page which was requested a lot after F8 launch. I recall awaiting translations prior to linking it to the get-fedora page. But I feel we post what we have translation wise, with maybe some sort of note in the requested $LANG 'Not in your $LANG, help translate ...' and link to the right spot, which I am guessing is somewhere in transifex, but I am not sure. We could use google translate or similar to translate our $not_your_lang_phrase into all the target $LANGS, I would think. Our policy has been to wait to post new content until it has been translated. -- Craig From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:20:28 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:20:28 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview - New directory Message-ID: <200804060920.m369KSkG017067@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv17063/f9preview Log Message: Directory /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview added to the repository From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:20:38 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:20:38 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/bn_IN - New directory Message-ID: <200804060920.m369Kc7c017088@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/bn_IN In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv17084/f9preview/bn_IN Log Message: Directory /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/bn_IN added to the repository From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:20:38 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:20:38 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ca - 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From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:25 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:25 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/bn_IN/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QPIG018570@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/bn_IN/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/bn_IN/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:25 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:25 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ca/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QPpN018605@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ca/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ca/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:27 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:27 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ca/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QRKw018620@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ca/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ca/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:27 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:27 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/cs/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QR5O018655@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/cs/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/cs/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:28 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:28 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/cs/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QSoj018670@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/cs/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/cs/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:28 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:28 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/da/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QS6Z018705@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/da/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/da/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:28 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:28 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/da/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QSCw018720@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/da/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/da/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:30 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:30 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/de/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QUbo018755@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/de/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/de/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:30 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:30 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/de/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QUC9018770@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/de/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/de/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:31 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:31 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/el/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QVsk018805@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/el/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/el/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:31 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:31 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/el/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QV6R018820@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/el/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/el/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:33 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:33 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/en_US/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QXkx018870@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/en_US/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/en_US/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:33 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:33 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/es/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QXML018905@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/es/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/es/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:34 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:34 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fi/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QYDr018955@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fi/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/fi/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:36 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:36 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fr/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qahq019005@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fr/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/fr/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:36 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:36 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fr/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QaVw019020@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fr/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/fr/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:37 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:37 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/gu/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QbU0019070@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/gu/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/gu/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:34 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:34 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/es/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QY6p018920@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/es/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/es/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:39 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:39 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hi_IN/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QdqN019120@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hi_IN/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/hi_IN/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:39 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:39 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hr/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qdlt019155@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hr/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/hr/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:31 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:31 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/en_US/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QVri018855@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/en_US/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/en_US/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:34 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:34 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fi/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QYm1018970@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fi/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/fi/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:40 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:40 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hu/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QeNW019205@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hu/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/hu/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:41 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:41 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hu/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QfgZ019220@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hu/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/hu/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:37 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:37 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/gu/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QbIc019055@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/gu/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/gu/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:37 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:37 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hi_IN/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QbXN019105@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hi_IN/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/hi_IN/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:40 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:40 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hr/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QejT019170@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hr/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/hr/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:43 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:43 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ja/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qhn4019305@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ja/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ja/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:44 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:44 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ms/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qi7c019355@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ms/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ms/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:41 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:41 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/it/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qf2o019270@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/it/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/it/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:45 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:45 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nb/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QjMD019420@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nb/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/nb/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:41 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:41 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/it/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QfVw019255@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/it/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/it/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:46 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:46 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nl/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qkso019455@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nl/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/nl/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:44 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:44 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ms/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qinc019370@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ms/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ms/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:48 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:48 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pa/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qmox019522@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pa/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pa/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:43 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:43 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ja/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qht9019320@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ja/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ja/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:49 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:49 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pl/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QnRO019572@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pl/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pl/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:50 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:50 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qo8o019622@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pt/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:51 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:51 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ru/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QpuT019707@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ru/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ru/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:49 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:49 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QnRq019607@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pt/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:46 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:46 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nl/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QkqP019470@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nl/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/nl/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:46 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:46 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pa/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QkRv019507@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pa/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pa/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:45 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:45 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nb/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qj7x019405@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nb/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/nb/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:53 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:53 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sk/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qrtd019757@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sk/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sk/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:48 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:48 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pl/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qmfw019557@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pl/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pl/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:54 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:54 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qsrv019810@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sr/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:55 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:55 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QtL2019822@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sr/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:50 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:50 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt_BR/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QoHI019657@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt_BR/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pt_BR/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:51 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:51 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt_BR/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QpFa019672@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt_BR/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/pt_BR/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:56 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:56 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr_Latn/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Quog019872@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr_Latn/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sr_Latn/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:51 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:51 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ru/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QpXo019722@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ru/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ru/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:58 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:58 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ta/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QwJc019959@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ta/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ta/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:53 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:53 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sk/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QrVg019772@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sk/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sk/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:55 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:55 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr_Latn/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qt8n019857@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr_Latn/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sr_Latn/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:56 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:56 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sv/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qu4t019907@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sv/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sv/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:27:01 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:27:01 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_CN/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060927.m369R1Wl020076@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_CN/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/zh_CN/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:58 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:58 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ta/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QwF1019974@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ta/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/ta/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:56 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:56 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sv/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QudO019922@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sv/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/sv/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:59 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:59 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/uk/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369QxGq020024@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/uk/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/uk/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:59 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:59 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/uk/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qx89020009@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/uk/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/uk/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:27:01 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:27:01 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_TW/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060927.m369R1A3020111@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_TW/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/zh_TW/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:26:59 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:26:59 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_CN/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060926.m369Qxw9020059@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_CN/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/zh_CN/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:27:02 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:27:02 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_TW/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804060927.m369R2TK020128@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_TW/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18482/f9preview/zh_TW/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: f9 preview notes with all current l10n status; a bit beyond what we'll see in the preview in terms of actual l10n, but the en_US is the same as it has been and that's mainly what we want to test with this preview. From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 09:31:15 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:31:15 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes index.php,1.43,1.44 Message-ID: <200804060931.m369VFfC020239@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv20209 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: linking in to early f9 preview notes Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.43 retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -r1.43 -r1.44 --- index.php 17 Nov 2007 00:24:04 -0000 1.43 +++ index.php 6 Apr 2008 09:30:45 -0000 1.44 @@ -26,6 +26,53 @@ --> +

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From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:08 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:08 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/bn_IN index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36Ak8wD028567@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/bn_IN In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/bn_IN Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:09 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:09 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ca index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36Ak9KU028609@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ca In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/ca Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:10 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:10 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/cs index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkAVX028652@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/cs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/cs Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:13 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:13 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/da index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkDBw028695@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/da In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/da Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:14 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:14 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/de index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkErB028738@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/de In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/de Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:14 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:14 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/en_US index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkEaT028824@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/en_US In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/en_US Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:14 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:14 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/el index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkEMV028781@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/el In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/el Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:16 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:16 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/es index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkG8t028867@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/es In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/es Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:16 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:16 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fi index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkGfJ028910@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fi In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/fi Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:17 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:17 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fr index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkHH9028953@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/fr In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/fr Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:17 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:17 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/gu index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkHIc028996@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/gu In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/gu Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:18 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:18 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hi_IN index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkIOP029039@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hi_IN In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/hi_IN Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:19 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:19 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hu index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkJpr029123@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hu In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/hu Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:19 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:19 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/it index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkJt3029169@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/it In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/it Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:20 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:20 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ms index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkKcE029255@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ms In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/ms Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:21 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:21 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nl index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkLxZ029343@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nl In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/nl Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:22 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:22 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pa index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkMvY029386@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pa In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/pa Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:23 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:23 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt_BR index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkNTn029476@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt_BR In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/pt_BR Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:20 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:20 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ja index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkK3w029212@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ja In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/ja Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:25 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:25 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ru index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkPt2029567@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ru In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/ru Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:25 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:25 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sk index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkPui029611@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sk In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/sk Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:21 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:21 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nb index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkLck029300@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/nb In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/nb Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:18 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:18 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hr index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkIhI029082@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/hr In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/hr Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:27 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:27 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sv index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkRCK029740@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sv In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/sv Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:22 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:22 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pl index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkMGh029430@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pl In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/pl Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:28 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:28 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/uk index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkShG029826@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/uk In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/uk Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:23 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:23 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkNWn029523@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/pt Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:26 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:26 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr_Latn index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkQ1E029697@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr_Latn In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/sr_Latn Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:27 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:27 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ta index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkRsi029783@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/ta In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/ta Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:26 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:26 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkQ0T029654@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/sr In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/sr Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:28 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:28 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_CN index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkSKe029869@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_CN In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/zh_CN Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'rv-revhistory.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ArchSpecific.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Colophon.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-DatabaseServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Desktop.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Devel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Entertainment.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Feedback.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-FileSystems.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-I18n.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 10:46:29 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:46:29 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_TW index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Desktop.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Devel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Entertainment.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Feedback.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-FileSystems.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-I18n.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Installer.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Java.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Kernel.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Live.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-MailServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Multimedia.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-OverView.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageChanges.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-PackageNotes.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ProjectOverview.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Security.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-System-Services.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Virtualization.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-WebServers.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Xorg.php, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804061046.m36AkTV1029912@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/zh_TW In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28517/zh_TW Added Files: index.php legalnotice.php rv-revhistory.php sn-ArchSpecific.php sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php sn-Colophon.php sn-DatabaseServers.php sn-Desktop.php sn-Devel.php sn-Entertainment.php sn-Feedback.php sn-FileSystems.php sn-I18n.php sn-Installer.php sn-Java.php sn-Kernel.php sn-legalnotice.php sn-Live.php sn-MailServers.php sn-Multimedia.php sn-OverView.php sn-PackageChanges.php sn-PackageNotes.php sn-ProjectOverview.php sn-Security.php sn-System-Services.php sn-Virtualization.php sn-WebServers.php sn-Xorg.php Log Message: Oh, yeah, and the content files themselves are worth adding. ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'index.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new 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directory: 'sn-Installer.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Java.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Kernel.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Live.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-MailServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Multimedia.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-OverView.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageChanges.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-PackageNotes.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-ProjectOverview.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Security.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-System-Services.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Virtualization.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-WebServers.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 18:17:41 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:17:41 -0500 Subject: CVS commit e-mails Message-ID: <47F913C5.4040107@gmail.com> What does everyone think about disabling the commit e-mails that get sent out? I know that I never actually read them myself, and I guess I'm not sure what everyone else feels regarding them. What are some of our options to not receive them if we don't want them? -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From eric at epkphoto.com Sun Apr 6 18:25:06 2008 From: eric at epkphoto.com (Eric Kerby) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:25:06 -0400 Subject: CVS commit e-mails In-Reply-To: <47F913C5.4040107@gmail.com> References: <47F913C5.4040107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17704C2C-4CFB-49DB-9E4A-3ADDDE20F8B6@epkphoto.com> On Apr 6, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Michael Beckwith wrote: > What does everyone think about disabling the commit e-mails that get > sent out? I know that I never actually read them myself, and I guess > I'm not sure what everyone else feels regarding them. What are some > of our options to not receive them if we don't want them? > > -- > ~Michael I can live with them, but would be +1 for disabling them. ---- Eric Kerby http://www.epkphoto.com/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EricKerby From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 18:43:28 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:43:28 -0400 Subject: CVS commit e-mails In-Reply-To: <47F913C5.4040107@gmail.com> References: <47F913C5.4040107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207507408.14663.19.camel@ignacio.lan> On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 13:17 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > What does everyone think about disabling the commit e-mails that get > sent out? I know that I never actually read them myself, and I guess I'm > not sure what everyone else feels regarding them. What are some of our > options to not receive them if we don't want them? I read them. Perhaps we can set up topics on the list. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 19:07:34 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:07:34 -0400 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> On 2008-04-01 02:24:48 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: > http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz Nice! Here's the test that I have so far: http://fedora.riczho.dyndns.org/. This is updated by python in the templates, as well as a piece of javascript that people can embed in their own websites (example on http://ricky.fedorapeople.org/ once the updated script goes live). Also, (we ran into this last year too) the last image should be "1 day" as opposed to "1 days." It'd also be nice to have a banner ready for after the counter runs out. I mentioned this in #fedora-art, but if you/anybody has a moment, it would probably just be very similar to the other counter images. I'm working on getting translations for this. The gettext + SVG idea is out, because things like placement pretty much have to be done manually. I think we have transifex setup to accept SVG files, so I'll be emailing fedora-trans-list to see how translating in inkscape works out :) Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 19:34:16 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:04:16 +0530 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> Message-ID: <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> Ricky Zhou wrote: > Nice! Here's the test that I have so far: > http://fedora.riczho.dyndns.org/. This is updated by python in the > templates, as well as a piece of javascript that people can embed in > their own websites You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people to instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead of linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the instructions on a static page which also mentions the release date and then references the wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this. Rahul From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 20:55:19 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 16:55:19 -0400 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> On 2008-04-07 01:04:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people to > instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead of > linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the instructions on > a static page which also mentions the release date and then references the > wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this. How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do it). Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 21:08:54 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:38:54 +0530 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> Message-ID: <47F93BE6.6070405@fedoraproject.org> Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2008-04-07 01:04:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people to >> instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead of >> linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the instructions on >> a static page which also mentions the release date and then references the >> wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this. > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter > > Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow > choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do > it). This is good. I have a few minor suggestions * Make the text bold or something. The text is not highlighted well beneath the image and it is not clear that it is a link * Reduce the font size or line wrap the java script code. It runs off the screen atleast in my system. * You probably can skip the example image since there is already one visible in the top left. Rahul From dapidc at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 02:07:47 2008 From: dapidc at gmail.com (Dapid Candra) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:07:47 +0700 Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/pt index.php, NONE, 1.1 legalnotice.php, NONE, 1.1 rv-revhistory.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-ArchSpecific.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-BackwardsCompatibility.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-Colophon.php, NONE, 1.1 sn-DatabaseServers.php, NONE, Message-ID: <1cf035e60804061907h102142m468494e752b3bffe@mail.gmail.com> Hi Wade, Why Indonesian language is not included? What should I do to include it? Thanks, Dapid Candra From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 02:29:08 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:29:08 -0400 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> Message-ID: <20080407022908.GJ32030@Max> On 2008-04-06 03:07:34 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > I'm working on getting translations for this. The gettext + SVG idea is > out, because things like placement pretty much have to be done manually. > I think we have transifex setup to accept SVG files, so I'll be emailing > fedora-trans-list to see how translating in inkscape works out :) Update: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-April/msg00063.html Nicu, if you're going to be generating all of the PNGs, then the SVG files should be at http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-web.git;a=tree;f=fedoraproject.org/po;hb=HEAD. I'm still not 100% sure how to handle different translation for "1 day" vs. "1 days", but we might end up just handling those manually. I should have the javascript ready to display these translations ready very soon. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A first round of rendered translations (all that was available in git): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/de.tar.gz http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/fi.tar.gz http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/he.tar.gz http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/is.tar.gz http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pt_BR.tar.gz http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/sk.tar.gz http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/sr.tar.gz And my own: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/ro.tar.gz A French translation I received on my blog: http://www.parois.net/ng/f9counter.tar.bz2 I also received a link to an Italian version, but that was removed in the meantime by its author and a Portuguese one which i believe is identical with pt_BR. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From diegobz at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 16:43:20 2008 From: diegobz at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Diego_B=FArigo_Zacar=E3o?=) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:43:20 -0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6600c1b10804070943j749b83a2kd0cf707f234e7487@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Nicu. 2008/4/7, Nicu Buculei : > > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pt_BR.tar.gz > Just a note: For pt_BR version on 0 and 1 days, the banner should be: "Ser? lan?ado em 0 dia." "Ser? lan?ado em 1 dia." Instead "dias". Another suggestion for the zero-day should be: "released in some hours" In pt_BR: "Ser? lan?ado em algumas horas" Thanks -- Diego B?rigo Zacar?o Linux User #402589 USE SOFTWARE LIVRE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rnorwood at redhat.com Mon Apr 7 20:00:19 2008 From: rnorwood at redhat.com (Robin Norwood) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 16:00:19 -0400 Subject: Password reset for package db? Message-ID: <20080407160019.138f1b97@solitude.devel.redhat.com> Hi, I forgot/lost my fedora account system password, and in trying to reset it noticed that this page doesn't have a link back to the fedora account system, or any way to reset my password: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/login/ I went to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/login and found the password reset option there, but you might want to add it to the pkgdb login page as well. Thanks, -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Apr 7 20:28:35 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:28:35 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Password reset for package db? In-Reply-To: <20080407160019.138f1b97@solitude.devel.redhat.com> References: <20080407160019.138f1b97@solitude.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > Hi, > > I forgot/lost my fedora account system password, and in trying to reset > it noticed that this page doesn't have a link back to the fedora > account system, or any way to reset my password: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/login/ > > I went to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/login and found the > password reset option there, but you might want to add it to the pkgdb > login page as well. > This isn't a bad idea. We should probably have a "manage account" or "reset password" for anything that requires a username and password. -Mike From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Tue Apr 8 00:45:59 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (=?utf-8?b?Umlja3kgWmhvdSAo5ZGo5a625p2wKQ==?= (ricky)) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:45:59 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes index.php,1.44,1.45 Message-ID: <200804080045.m380jx0c007661@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: ricky Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv7636 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: Add missing en_US, as mentioned by lkundrak Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.44 retrieving revision 1.45 diff -u -r1.44 -r1.45 --- index.php 6 Apr 2008 09:30:45 -0000 1.44 +++ index.php 8 Apr 2008 00:45:29 -0000 1.45 @@ -42,6 +42,7 @@ da | de | el | +en_US | es | fi | fr | From rnorwood at redhat.com Tue Apr 8 02:51:53 2008 From: rnorwood at redhat.com (Robin Norwood) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:51:53 -0400 Subject: Password reset for package db? In-Reply-To: References: <20080407160019.138f1b97@solitude.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080407225153.1dcc6cbd@solitude.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:28:35 -0500 (CDT) Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I forgot/lost my fedora account system password, and in trying to > > reset it noticed that this page doesn't have a link back to the > > fedora account system, or any way to reset my password: > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/login/ > > > > I went to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/login and found > > the password reset option there, but you might want to add it to > > the pkgdb login page as well. > > > > This isn't a bad idea. We should probably have a "manage account" or > "reset password" for anything that requires a username and password. Yup. Just something that gives the user another option if he doesn't know his username/password (and how to create a new account if necessary). -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching From kwade at redhat.com Tue Apr 8 16:09:43 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:09:43 -0700 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> Message-ID: <1207670983.4585.329.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 16:55 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2008-04-07 01:04:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people to > > instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead of > > linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the instructions on > > a static page which also mentions the release date and then references the > > wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this. > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter Looks great here: http://iquaid.org/ Couldn't resist. :) +1 about linking to a static schedule page, fwiw. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Another translation rendered: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/ja.tar.gz -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mtburke at ucdavis.edu Tue Apr 8 16:02:55 2008 From: mtburke at ucdavis.edu (Mary Burke) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:02:55 -0700 Subject: Alliance for Public Gardens GIS (that is: zoos and botanical gardens) Message-ID: <4AF957BF-CC63-4282-9512-B29A3D135DFD@ucdavis.edu> Hi All, http://fedoraproject.org/ I'm in love with your website. I'm trying to help launch a national collaborative project for the poor, misunderstood, underfunded tech folks at zoos and botanical gardens across the country. We're trying to build a GIS "data model" so that each zoo and garden doesn't have to start from scratch when they want to map their plants, their paths, their irrigation systems, etc. Here's an example from other industries. We need a web presence and project wiki to help us communicate. Would you mind terribly if I used your beautiful Fedora website as a template?-- it's so elegant, content-rich, easy to understand. If the answer is "yes", then you become an official "professional services" volunteer for our new alliance. Maybe there's a tax deduction in there somewhere? Our partners, right now, are the San Diego Zoo and Wild Animal Park, the Chicago Botanical Garden, the Missouri Botanical Garden, San Francisco Zoo, San Francisco State, the Arnold Arboretum at Harvard University, and UC Davis. We have about 100 gardens interested in getting this free, open source data model. Now all we have to do is build it. Communicate. Thank you for thinking it over. It would be a great help! Best, Mary Mary Burke Director of Planning and Collections UC Davis Arboretum University of California Davis, CA 95616 530-867-0974 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 8 17:27:26 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:57:26 +0530 Subject: Alliance for Public Gardens GIS (that is: zoos and botanical gardens) In-Reply-To: <4AF957BF-CC63-4282-9512-B29A3D135DFD@ucdavis.edu> References: <4AF957BF-CC63-4282-9512-B29A3D135DFD@ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <47FBAAFE.6070009@fedoraproject.org> Mary Burke wrote: > Hi All, > > http://fedoraproject.org/ > > I'm in love with your website. > > I'm trying to help launch a national collaborative project for the poor, > misunderstood, underfunded tech folks at zoos and botanical gardens > across the country. We're trying to build a GIS "data model" so that > each zoo and garden doesn't have to start from scratch when they want to > map their plants, their paths, their irrigation systems, etc. Here's > an example > from > other industries. > > We need a web presence and project wiki to help us communicate. > > Would you mind terribly if I used your beautiful Fedora website as a > template?-- it's so elegant, content-rich, easy to understand. > > If the answer is "yes", then you become an official "professional > services" volunteer for our new alliance. Maybe there's a tax deduction > in there somewhere? > > Our partners, right now, are the San Diego Zoo and Wild Animal Park, the > Chicago Botanical Garden, the Missouri Botanical Garden, San Francisco > Zoo, San Francisco State, the Arnold Arboretum at Harvard University, > and UC Davis. We have about 100 gardens interested in getting this free, > open source data model. Now all we have to do is build it. Communicate. > > Thank you for thinking it over. It would be a great help! [Copying an earlier answer given to another project] You are allowed to use the design and CSS in our website under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license. Essentially use it freely but give us credit and we appreciate linking back to our website. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites Note that using the Fedora marks is only allowed under our trademark guidelines so I would suggest that you avoid using them in any way. Rahul From a.badger at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 18:03:58 2008 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:03:58 -0700 Subject: Password reset for package db? In-Reply-To: <20080407225153.1dcc6cbd@solitude.devel.redhat.com> References: <20080407160019.138f1b97@solitude.devel.redhat.com> <20080407225153.1dcc6cbd@solitude.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <47FBB38E.9080408@gmail.com> Robin Norwood wrote: > On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:28:35 -0500 (CDT) > Mike McGrath wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Robin Norwood wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I forgot/lost my fedora account system password, and in trying to >>> reset it noticed that this page doesn't have a link back to the >>> fedora account system, or any way to reset my password: >>> >>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/login/ >>> >>> I went to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/login and found >>> the password reset option there, but you might want to add it to >>> the pkgdb login page as well. >>> >> This isn't a bad idea. We should probably have a "manage account" or >> "reset password" for anything that requires a username and password. > > Yup. Just something that gives the user another option if he doesn't > know his username/password (and how to create a new account if > necessary). > Yah. How about a common Fedora header for all of our apps? Then we can have links to the account system there for everyone to access. Anyone want to write up a template for that? -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Our policy has been to wait to post > new content until it has been translated. Definitely agree. I still haven't figured out how to show a special message if a page isn't translated, I think we've waited long enough for certain pages to get caught up. Here are two that come to mind: * http://fedoraproject.org/keys * http://fedoraproject.org/verify Particularly for the verify link, where on the get-fedora page do you think we should place the link? Perhaps a note near the top (similar to the Beta link?) Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Right now I've only made the changes to index.html.en and the fedora.css, and I've had to change some of the url pointers to work on my local system. Best wishes, Jon From mtant621 at charter.net Tue Apr 8 20:40:09 2008 From: mtant621 at charter.net (Michael Tant) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:40:09 -0400 Subject: fedora 8 media Message-ID: I have become recently interested in the Linux operating system, and was introduced to Fedora Core 2 with KDE and Gnome. I have since become interested in the Fedora 8. I have noticed it is DVDRom. I have had some trouble navigating the website though as to how I can aquire a full set of DVDRom's. I understand that fedora 8 as all linux versions is freeware, but I am sure there is a cost to the media and shipping of said media. Can you please forward this email to the person or persons responsible for helping me to order this media? I would like to ask them the cost for ordering fedora 8 (and speak to them about which version is best for me) and providing all is well, go ahead and order the software by either online or on the phone visa. Please let me know as soon as possible, I'm anxious to get linux up and running very soon. I thank you in advance. Sincerely, Michael L. Tant From desarrollo at global-retail.com Wed Apr 9 08:57:10 2008 From: desarrollo at global-retail.com (DESARROLLO) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:57:10 +0200 Subject: Good Morning - Price of License Message-ID: <110f01c89a1f$b55aa760$3ffda8c0@pcinternet> Good Morning ?can you say us, the price of the licensing the fedora? Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From ricky at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 9 12:28:34 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:28:34 -0400 Subject: fedora 8 media In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080409122834.GB24783@Max> On 2008-04-08 04:40:09 PM, Michael Tant wrote: > I have become recently interested in the Linux operating system, and was > introduced to Fedora Core 2 with KDE and Gnome. I have since become > interested in the Fedora 8. I have noticed it is DVDRom. I have had some > trouble navigating the website though as to how I can aquire a full set of > DVDRom's. I understand that fedora 8 as all linux versions is freeware, but > I am sure there is a cost to the media and shipping of said media. Can you > please forward this email to the person or persons responsible for helping > me to order this media? I would like to ask them the cost for ordering > fedora 8 (and speak to them about which version is best for me) and > providing all is well, go ahead and order the software by either online or > on the phone visa. Please let me know as soon as possible, I'm anxious to > get linux up and running very soon. I thank you in advance. Take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora. If you have access to a CD/DVD burner, you can freely download an install DVD or an installable Live CD. At the bottom of the page, there are also links to various Fedora media vendors, as well as information about our Free Media program. Hope this helps, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For me, it takes a tiny bit of attention away from the logo under it, but I'm not sure what could go there in its place... By the way, I've heard people mention that we want to avoid the implications of the word "support" - perhaps we could use "help" instead. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 9 12:57:08 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:57:08 +0100 Subject: fp.o/start.fp.o improvements In-Reply-To: <20080409124220.GC24783@Max> References: <1207736744.3739.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080409124220.GC24783@Max> Message-ID: <1207745828.2617.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 08:42 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2008-04-09 11:25:44 AM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > My questions are: what do people think? And if it's a thumbs up, what do > > I need to do to get them live. Right now I've only made the changes to > > index.html.en and the fedora.css, and I've had to change some of the url > > pointers to work on my local system. > Looks great! I definitely like the idea of having a banner on the main > page - do you think we can get one in and translated in time for F9? I think we'd have to ask the art team :) > Also, what do you think about the "fedora" in the upper-left corner? > For me, it takes a tiny bit of attention away from the logo under it, > but I'm not sure what could go there in its place... Yeah, that was more of a plae holder...for one, it's not the correct font, and two, the clash with the logo below. One thing I'd considered was just putting the graphical part of the logo there, like we have in Gnome. One point to note, in the spins mockups where the logo is now is actually replaced by "Fedora" with "Spins" written underneath it. This is something I think would work well, i.e. "Fedora News" "Fedora Spins" "Fedora Downloads" etc etc could all be placed like this. In this case the clash wouldn't be as significant... > > By the way, I've heard people mention that we want to avoid the > implications of the word "support" - perhaps we could use "help" > instead. Yep, I'm happy for that :) I'd also like to change "get involved" to "be involved"... Best wishes, Jon > > Thanks, > Ricky > From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 13:38:02 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:38:02 +0000 Subject: Possible new CLA Message-ID: <1207748282.5428.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> There is a draft of a new CLA being circulated at FreeIPA: https://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2008-April/msg00052.html http://www.freeipa.org/wiki/images/2/2b/GenericCLA.pdf I've asked Legal for a summary of what's changed and why, and an answer to whether all Fedora contributors would need to re-execute this agreement. (I'm betting the answer to the last question is "yes," but that's just an educated guess.) I believe the changes to be minor, mainly to eliminate loopholes and to make this process less onerous in the future, but I'll wait for more information. Ricky Zhou tells me that our CLA signing information is kept in the form of a log table, not a simple date field. AIUI then, we have the ability to find out what CLAs have been executed over the life of an account. 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I definitely like the idea of having a banner on the main > > page - do you think we can get one in and translated in time for F9? +1, I think this is very nice. Also, we'd need to incorporate the rotating banner(s) some where. -- Craig From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 9 14:51:41 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:51:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Possible new CLA In-Reply-To: <1207748282.5428.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1207748282.5428.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > There is a draft of a new CLA being circulated at FreeIPA: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2008-April/msg00052.html > http://www.freeipa.org/wiki/images/2/2b/GenericCLA.pdf > > I've asked Legal for a summary of what's changed and why, and an answer > to whether all Fedora contributors would need to re-execute this > agreement. (I'm betting the answer to the last question is "yes," but > that's just an educated guess.) I believe the changes to be minor, > mainly to eliminate loopholes and to make this process less onerous in > the future, but I'll wait for more information. > > Ricky Zhou tells me that our CLA signing information is kept in the form > of a log table, not a simple date field. AIUI then, we have the ability > to find out what CLAs have been executed over the life of an account. > > If I'm correct about that, I want to say first, thanks for a really good > design. :-) This is only true for FAS2, not FAS1 I think. > Second, since a new CLA is a possibility -- I just want to confirm that > we are not *overwriting* old CLA data, i.e. we would maintain a history > that user "johndoe" signed a CLA on 2007-10-15 and then again on > 2008-04-28. AFAIK the cla gets signed and a copy of it gets forwarded on to some legal address. We might want to contact the owner of that address (maybe spot? maybe greg?) and see if that mailbox is still full of cla signatures. -Mike From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 15:43:22 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:43:22 +0000 Subject: Possible new CLA In-Reply-To: References: <1207748282.5428.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1207755802.5428.214.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:51 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > There is a draft of a new CLA being circulated at FreeIPA: > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2008-April/msg00052.html > > http://www.freeipa.org/wiki/images/2/2b/GenericCLA.pdf > > > > I've asked Legal for a summary of what's changed and why, and an answer > > to whether all Fedora contributors would need to re-execute this > > agreement. (I'm betting the answer to the last question is "yes," but > > that's just an educated guess.) I believe the changes to be minor, > > mainly to eliminate loopholes and to make this process less onerous in > > the future, but I'll wait for more information. > > > > Ricky Zhou tells me that our CLA signing information is kept in the form > > of a log table, not a simple date field. AIUI then, we have the ability > > to find out what CLAs have been executed over the life of an account. > > > > If I'm correct about that, I want to say first, thanks for a really good > > design. :-) > > This is only true for FAS2, not FAS1 I think. > > > Second, since a new CLA is a possibility -- I just want to confirm that > > we are not *overwriting* old CLA data, i.e. we would maintain a history > > that user "johndoe" signed a CLA on 2007-10-15 and then again on > > 2008-04-28. > > AFAIK the cla gets signed and a copy of it gets forwarded on to some legal > address. 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I hadn't been keeping them, just sanity checking them. ~spot From saturn_jupiter84 at yahoo.it Wed Apr 9 17:09:32 2008 From: saturn_jupiter84 at yahoo.it (saturn_jupiter84) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:09:32 +0200 Subject: Fedora 9 counter - Italian translate Message-ID: <47FCF84C.1090707@yahoo.it> Hi there, I've translated in Italian the SVG of "Fedora 9 counter" by Nicu. You can download the package with pre-rendered images here: http://www.pleoni.altervista.org/f9counter_it.tar.gz This is my first very little contribution to the Fedora Community :-) Maybe there's a little bug in the "Fedora 9 counter" on the main page of Fedora Project web site. When the date is on 29th April, 14:00 UTC the counter still show "Fedora 9 Sulfur released in 0 days", only on 30th April, 14:00 UTC the counter show "Fedora 9 is here!". It's correct? Thanks to all, Paolo Leoni http://www.pleoni.altervista.org From ricky at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 9 18:12:53 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:12:53 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9 counter - Italian translate In-Reply-To: <47FCF84C.1090707@yahoo.it> References: <47FCF84C.1090707@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <20080409181253.GG24783@Max> On 2008-04-09 07:09:32 PM, saturn_jupiter84 wrote: > Hi there, I've translated in Italian the SVG of "Fedora 9 counter" by Nicu. > You can download the package with pre-rendered images here: > http://www.pleoni.altervista.org/f9counter_it.tar.gz > This is my first very little contribution to the Fedora Community :-) Great, and welcome! Thanks for the translations, they should be up on the site very soon. > Maybe there's a little bug in the "Fedora 9 counter" on the main page of > Fedora Project web site. > When the date is on 29th April, 14:00 UTC the counter still show "Fedora 9 > Sulfur released in 0 days", only on 30th April, 14:00 UTC the counter show > "Fedora 9 is here!". It's correct? Nope, and thanks for testing/catching that! I had a < instead of <=, which should be fixed during the next sync. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 21:58:58 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:58:58 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: Possible new CLA In-Reply-To: <1207756691.3000.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1207748282.5428.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207755802.5428.214.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207756691.3000.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1207778338.5428.273.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 11:58 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 15:43 +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > I think it's spot. He'll see this and confirm or deny as needed. :-) > > CLAs come into my inbox. I hadn't been keeping them, just sanity > checking them. If I understand what Ricky meant by "log table" correctly, we have a list of dates that we can tie to account names. If someone could confirm this who understands the bits involved, that would be great. -- Paul W. 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Frields wrote: > If I understand what Ricky meant by "log table" correctly, we have a > list of dates that we can tie to account names. If someone could > confirm this who understands the bits involved, that would be great. Exactly. It just links a user to a date and an action (such as signing the CLA). Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 9 22:11:09 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:11:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: Possible new CLA In-Reply-To: <1207778338.5428.273.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1207748282.5428.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207755802.5428.214.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207756691.3000.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1207778338.5428.273.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 11:58 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 15:43 +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > > I think it's spot. He'll see this and confirm or deny as needed. :-) > > > > CLAs come into my inbox. I hadn't been keeping them, just sanity > > checking them. > > If I understand what Ricky meant by "log table" correctly, we have a > list of dates that we can tie to account names. If someone could > confirm this who understands the bits involved, that would be great. > I think we'd be covered. WE know when oldies like myself signed the CLA because it tracks when I joined cla_done. If I re-sign something I don't think I'll be joining cla_done and the new cla agreement should show up in the log table. -Mike From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Thu Apr 10 02:37:37 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Paul W. 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Build Targets
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TargetExplanation
helpThis target prints a list of available targets and - their descriptions.
validate-xmlThis target validates the XML files +

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helpThis target prints a list of available targets and + their descriptions.
validate-xmlThis target validates the XML files to make sure they are not only well-formed, but follow the DTD. Some viewers of XML documents may not work correctly until you run this target. This target includes copying required entity files so that validating XML viewers work - properly
htmlThis target builds the "chunked" HTML + properly
htmlThis target builds the "chunked" HTML document for each defined translation. Output is placed in a separate directory named ${DOCBASE}-${LANG}/. Each document section is a separate file within that - directory.
html-nochunksThis target builds the "non-chunked" HTML + directory.
html-nochunksThis target builds the "non-chunked" HTML document for each defined translation. Output is placed in a single file: ${DOCBASE}-${LANG}.html; no - other files are created.
pdfThis target builds only the PDF document + other files are created.
pdfThis target builds only the PDF document for all document languages. PDF production is - currently erratic and may not work for your document.
tarballThis target builds only the tar(1) - archive for all document languages.
allThis target builds all targets listed above.
cleanThis target deletes any temporary, or generated files, but + currently erratic and may not work for your document.
tarballThis target builds only the tar(1) + archive for all document languages.
allThis target builds all targets listed above.
cleanThis target deletes any temporary, or generated files, but does not erase any HTML, - PDF, or archive files.
distcleanThis target erases all HTML, + PDF, or archive files.
distcleanThis target erases all HTML, PDF, and archive files. This target automatically invokes the clean target as - well.
[Note]PDF Generation is Erratic

PDF production is currently erratic and may - not work for your document.

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The Fedora Documentation Project's custom scripts and stylesheets are stored in CVS on the cvs.fedoraproject.org CVS server. When you check out a document module from CVS, the tools are included in the module inside the docs-common/ directory. To work on existing documents in CVS, refer to Chapter??8, CVS. -

The most powerful component in the Fedora Documentation Project toolbox is +

+

The most powerful component in the Fedora Documentation Project toolbox is DocBook XML. DocBook XML is a specific scheme for authoring technical documentation using Extensible Markup Language, or XML. XML allows authors to mark pieces of content with descriptive tags. The following output is an example - of DocBook XML:

<article>
+      of DocBook XML:

+
<article>
   <title>A Very Short Article</title>
   <para>This very short article is a
     demonstration of DocBook XML in
@@ -28,7 +58,8 @@
     the content they surround, and how
     that content fits into the meaning
     of the text as a written work.</para>
-</article>
This example article, entitled A Very Short
+</article>
+

This example article, entitled A Very Short Article, consists of only a single paragraph. The tags, or markup, surround elements of content to define the sense in which they are used. A paragraph, for example, is marked with @@ -36,24 +67,54 @@ marked with emphasis tags. The author does not worry about the visual formatting such as italics or font size. Fedora Documentation Project build tools automatically perform all formatting - tasks.

The custom tools built by the Fedora Documentation Project render DocBook source into + tasks.

+

The custom tools built by the Fedora Documentation Project render DocBook source into a variety of formats for publication and distribution. They also allow translators to create localized versions of the XML documents for Fedora users around the world. The flexibility of XML allows for a single document to be used many times for many - purposes, like reusable code for a programmer.

DocBook is itself very well documented. For more information + purposes, like reusable code for a programmer.

+

DocBook is itself very well documented. For more information about DocBook, visit http://www.docbook.org/. The DocBook site also features complete copies of DocBook: The Definitive Guide to browse and download, the - canonical source for DocBook information.

+
[Note]DocBook XML Versions

DocBook XML, like a computer program, has version numbers. + canonical source for DocBook information.

+
+ + + + +
[Note]DocBook XML Versions

DocBook XML, like a computer program, has version numbers. The version used by Fedora Documentation Project right now is 4.4. The DocBook web site may document a slightly newer version, but the majority of - the schema still applies.

Contributors who use the Microsoft Windows operating system + the schema still applies.

+

Contributors who use the Microsoft Windows operating system can still make use of DocBook tools. For more information, refer - to http://www.codeproject.com/winhelp/docbook_howto.asp.

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To work on official Fedora documentation you need to install the required tools. Follow the directions below to configure your system. -

1.1.??System Packages

+

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1.1.??System Packages

+

Install the "Authoring and Publishing" package group, which contains required DocBook XML files, stylesheets and scripts: - 

+    

+
 su -c 'yum groupinstall "Authoring and Publishing"'
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Next, install the cvs package, which is used to handle revision control on files in the official repository: - 

+    

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 su -c 'yum install cvs'
-
If you plan to use Emacs to edit
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If you plan to use Emacs to edit DocBook XML documentation, install psgml, which adds helpful and time-saving functionality to maximize editing - efficiency:

su -c 'yum install psgml'
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Documentation modules have a specific structure that enables the + +

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Documentation modules have a specific structure that enables the preconfigured tools to work correctly. Follow this structure exactly or you may have problems building your module. The Fedora Documentation Project build tools locate resources in the module and use them to build new output such as HTML or RPM - packages.

2.1.??Structure of a Module

Example??2.1, ???Example Module Structure??? shows a directory tree + packages.

+
+

2.1.??Structure of a Module

+

Example??2.1, ???Example Module Structure??? shows a directory tree of an example module, excluding any CVS folders. Note that this - example document does not have branches.

example-doc/
+      example document does not have branches.

+

+
example-doc/
     |
     |-- en_US/
     |       |-- example-doc.xml
@@ -31,16 +64,41 @@
     |       |-- example-doc.pot
     |       `-- pt.po
     |
-    `-- Makefile
Example??2.1.??Example Module Structure

CVS Module Contents

+
ComponentTypeUsage Notes
Primary language directoryrequiredThis is the only directory absolutely required. It is named
+    `-- Makefile
+
Example??2.1.??Example Module Structure

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CVS Module Contents

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Primary language directoryrequiredThis is the only directory absolutely required. It is named
 	  for the original language of the document, such as en_US (US English).  The
 	  primary language does not have to be US English; all languages
 	  are supported.  This directory contains all the XML source for
 	  the actual document, as well as XML source for
-	  document-specific entities[1].
Graphics directoryoptionalThe figs/ directory
+	  document-specific entities[1].
Graphics directoryoptionalThe figs/ directory
 	  is an optional directory where graphics for the document
 	  should be stored. If graphics are screenshots that are
 	  particular to a language, the figs/ directory can and should
-	  be stored in a language directory.
Translation (PO) directoryoptionalThe po/ directory
+	  be stored in a language directory.
Translation (PO) directoryoptionalThe po/ directory
 	  contains specially formatted Portable Object, or
 	  PO, files created and used by translators.
 	  The Fedora Documentation Project build tools use these files to create translated
@@ -49,19 +107,65 @@
 	  po/ directory also
 	  contains the LINGUAS file, which lists
 	  the active translation locales, or
-	  languages.
MakefilerequiredThe Makefile controls the build
-	  process. Its content is discussed in Example??2.2, ???Sample Document Makefile???.
rpm-info.xmlrequiredThe rpm-info.xml file contains
-	  document specific metadata

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[Important]Common Build Tools
Never add the docs-common build
+	  languages.
MakefilerequiredThe Makefile controls the build
+	  process. Its content is discussed in Example??2.2, ???Sample Document Makefile???.
rpm-info.xmlrequiredThe rpm-info.xml file contains
+	  document specific metadata

+

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[Important]Common Build Tools
Never add the docs-common build
 	tools directory to an individual module.  Special formatting in
 	the module list downloads these tools when a user checks out a
-	document module.  For more information, refer to Section??1.3.1, ???Module Names???.

[1] Think of an XML entity as a predefined snippet of
+	document module.  For more information, refer to Section??1.3.1, ???Module Names???.

+
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[1] Think of an XML entity as a predefined snippet of information. It can represent a chunk of XML source, or simply a word or character. If the information changes, it need be replaced only once, in the definition, to fix all - usage.

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The goal of the Fedora Documentation Project is to create easy-to-follow, task-based documentation for Fedora users and developers. The Fedora Documentation Project uses the following tools: -

  • DocBook XML v4.4

  • Custom XSLT stylesheets for both print and HTML - versions

  • Custom scripts to generate HTML output (use - xmlto)

  • Emacs with PSGML mode (optional, but recommended)

+

+
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  • DocBook XML v4.4

    • +

  • Custom XSLT stylesheets for both print and HTML + versions

    • +

  • Custom scripts to generate HTML output (use + xmlto)

    • +

  • Emacs with PSGML mode (optional, but recommended)

    • +
+

This document explains the tools used by the Fedora Documentation Project. It provides writing and tagging guidelines to ensure Fedora documentation is consistent and easy-to-follow. -

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This chapter shows how to publish official Fedora Documentation Project work to the + +

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+

This chapter shows how to publish official Fedora Documentation Project work to the docs.fedoraproject.org website. To publish official documentation, you must be approved to write to the web repository in CVS. Access for publishing is limited to contributors who have demonstrated capacity for working with CVS and other project tools. Once you have acquired and are comfortable with these skills, contributions as a publisher are - welcome.

7.1.??How the Site Works

The docs.fedoraproject.org website + welcome.

+
+

7.1.??How the Site Works

+

The docs.fedoraproject.org website is a set of PHP files and scripts. Publishers maintain these files in a CVS repository, and the website host retrieves them hourly to refresh the site. The host does not automatically use the newest content for the website. Instead, it pulls files with the CVS tag LIVE to populate the - website.

Each publisher sets up a local testing website on an available + website.

+

Each publisher sets up a local testing website on an available Fedora system. This site, sometimes called a sandbox, allows the publisher to test and view changes to documents, and ensure stability on the public - site.

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In this chapter, you will find an example of a very short tutorial + +

+ + + + + + + +
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+

Chapter??6.??The Layout of a Tutorial

+

In this chapter, you will find an example of a very short tutorial as used by the Fedora Documentation Project. This example is specific to the way the Docs Project uses DocBook XML. The example consists of a set of files - used to hold the content and metadata for the tutorial.

6.1.??The Article

Below is a sample article:

<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.4//EN"
+    used to hold the content and metadata for the tutorial.

+

+
6.1.??The Article

+
Below is a sample article:

+
<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.4//EN"
  "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.4/docbookx.dtd" [
 
 <!ENTITY % FEDORA-ENTITIES SYSTEM "fdp-entities.ent">
@@ -36,10 +68,31 @@
   </section>
 <index id="generated-index"/>
 </article>
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Chapter??5.??VIM and DocBook

+ +

+ + + + + + + +
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Chapter??5.??VIM and DocBook

+

VIM has many features to help you write XML content such as DocBook, including syntax highlighting and customizable key bindings. Additionally, one can easily use external programs from VIM for features @@ -15,11 +43,15 @@ This chapter assumes you already know generally how to use VIM; if you want to learn how, try the vimtutor or by typing :help tutor from inside VIM. -

5.1.??Setting Up Your .vimrc File

+

+
+

5.1.??Setting Up Your .vimrc File

+

Below is a short sample .vimrc file that turns on some VIM features useful for editing SGML or XML content such as DocBook: -

+

+
 " Turn off vi compatibility settings like limited undo
 set nocompatible
 " Syntax highlighting based on file extension
@@ -30,8 +62,15 @@
 set autoindent
 " Match SGML tags with %
 source $VIMRUNTIME/macros/matchit.vim
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       package to be installed.  If you are using or the
       vim-minimal package, or if you are using an older
@@ -39,10 +78,32 @@
       $VIMRUNTIME/macros/matchit.vim file. You can still
       download matchit.zip from
       Vim.org and load it separately.
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Please read this chapter carefully. This chapter describes the - guidelines that must be followed such as naming conventions.

This chapter only discusses tags used for documentation for the Fedora Project, + +

+ + + + + + + +
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Please read this chapter carefully. This chapter describes the + guidelines that must be followed such as naming conventions.

+

This chapter only discusses tags used for documentation for the Fedora Project, not all available DocBook XML tags. For the complete list, refer to http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html. -

3.1.??File Header

3.1.1.??XML Header

In accordance with good XML practices, the first line in any +

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3.1.??File Header

+
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3.1.1.??XML Header

+

In accordance with good XML practices, the first line in any DocBook XML source files should identify the file as XML. Use - the following line as the first line of any new XML file:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

3.1.2.??CVS Id Header

All the files must contain the CVS Id header. Use the - following line as the second line of any new XML file:

<!-- $Id: -->

Any time the file is committed to CVS, the line is updated + the following line as the first line of any new XML file:

+
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
+
+
+

3.1.2.??CVS Id Header

+

All the files must contain the CVS Id header. Use the + following line as the second line of any new XML file:

+
<!-- $Id: -->
+

Any time the file is committed to CVS, the line is updated automatically to include information about the file. For - example:

<!-- $Id$ -->
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Symbols

.cvsrc - , Configuring For CVS Access
.emacs, Setting Up Your .emacs File
.Xresources, Customizing Emacs

A

admonitions, Admonitions

C

cvs, CVS
.cvsrc - , Configuring For CVS Access
adding files, Adding Files
anonymous access, Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access
avoiding repetitive typing, Avoiding Repetitive Typing
binary files, Managing Binary Files
check out modules
checking out branches, Checking Out Branches of Modules
checking out modules, Checking Out Modules
commands, Basic CVS Co! mmands
summary of, Summary
committing files, Committing Files
configuring access for authors, Configuring Read/Write CVS Access
configuring for access, Configuring For CVS Access
configuring read-only access, Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access
configuring read/write access, Configuring Read/Write CVS Access
CVSROOT, Configuring For CVS Access
CVS_RSH, Configuring For CVS Access!
how it works, How CVS Works
overview, How CVS Works
preparing for use, Preparing For CVS Use
removing files, Removing Files
resolving conflicts, Resolving Conflicts
RPM installation, Is CVS Installed On Your System
status of files, Status of Files
updating files, Updating Files
CVSROOT, Configuring For CVS Access
CVS_RSH, Configuring For CVS Access

E

Emacs, Emacs and PSGML Mode
colors, Customizing Emacs
configuration file, Setting Up Your .emacs File
customizing, Customizing Emacs
font, Customizing Emacs
geometry, Customizing Emacs
PSGML mode, Emacs and PSGML Mode

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humor
RTFM, Fedora Documentation Guidelines

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naming conve! ntions, ID Na ming Conventions
rules for defining an ID, ID Naming Conventions

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OpenSSH
authorization keys, Generating SSH Keys
ssh-keygen - , Generating SSH Keys

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PSGML, Emacs and PSGML Mode

R

recursion (see recursion)
RTFM
read the fine manual, Fedora Documentation Guidelines
(see also humor)

S

screen captures (see screenshots)
screen grabs (see screenshots)
screenshots
how to take, Screenshots
ssh-keygen - , Generating SSH Keys

T

tutorial layout
article, The Article
metadata, The Metadata

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VIM, VIM and DocBook
configuration file, Setting Up Your .vimrc File

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XML tags
admonitions
caution, Admonitions
important, Admonitions
note, Admonitions
tip, Admonitions
warning, Admonitions
caution, Admonitions, Creating a note, - tip, caution, important, or warning
important, Admonitions, Creating a note, - tip, caution, important, or warning
naming conventions, ID Naming Conventions
note, Admonitions, Creating a note, - tip, caution, important, or warning
rules for defining an ID, ID Naming Conventions
tip, Admonitions, Creating a note, - tip, caution, important, or warning
warning, Admonitions, Creating a note, - tip, caution, important, or warning
xml tags
caveats, XML Tags
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.cvsrc + , Configuring For CVS Access +
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.emacs, Setting Up Your .emacs File +
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.Xresources, Customizing Emacs +
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admonitions, Admonitions +
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cvs, CVS +
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.cvsrc + , Configuring For CVS Access +
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adding files, Adding Files +
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anonymous access, Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access +
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avoiding repetitive typing, Avoiding Repetitive Typing +
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binary files, Managing Binary Files +
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check out modules
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checking out branches, Checking Out Branches of Modules +
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checking out modules, Checking Out Modules +
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commands, Basic CVS Commands +
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summary of, Summary +
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committing files, Committing Files +
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configuring access for authors, Configuring Read/Write CVS Access +
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configuring for access, Configuring For CVS Access +
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configuring read-only access, Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access +
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configuring read/write access, Configuring Read/Write CVS Access +
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CVSROOT, Configuring For CVS Access +
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CVS_RSH, Configuring For CVS Access +
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how it works, How CVS Works +
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overview, How CVS Works +
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preparing for use, Preparing For CVS Use +
+
removing files, Removing Files +
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resolving conflicts, Resolving Conflicts +
+
RPM installation, Is CVS Installed On Your System +
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status of files, Status of Files +
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updating files, Updating Files +
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CVSROOT, Configuring For CVS Access +
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CVS_RSH, Configuring For CVS Access +
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Emacs, Emacs and PSGML Mode +
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colors, Customizing Emacs +
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configuration file, Setting Up Your .emacs File +
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customizing, Customizing Emacs +
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font, Customizing Emacs +
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geometry, Customizing Emacs +
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PSGML mode, Emacs and PSGML Mode +
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humor
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RTFM, Fedora Documentation Guidelines +
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naming conventions, ID Naming Conventions +
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rules for defining an ID, ID Naming Conventions +
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OpenSSH
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authorization keys, Generating SSH Keys +
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ssh-keygen + , Generating SSH Keys +
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PSGML, Emacs and PSGML Mode +
+
+
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recursion (see recursion)
+
RTFM
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+
read the fine manual, Fedora Documentation Guidelines +
+
(see also humor)
+
+
+
+
+

S

+
+
screen captures (see screenshots)
+
screen grabs (see screenshots)
+
screenshots
+
how to take, Screenshots +
+
ssh-keygen + , Generating SSH Keys +
+
+
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+

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tutorial layout
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article, The Article +
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metadata, The Metadata +
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VIM, VIM and DocBook +
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configuration file, Setting Up Your .vimrc File +
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XML tags
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admonitions
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caution, Admonitions +
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important, Admonitions +
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note, Admonitions +
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tip, Admonitions +
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warning, Admonitions +
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caution, Admonitions, Creating a note, + tip, caution, important, or warning +
+
important, Admonitions, Creating a note, + tip, caution, important, or warning +
+
naming conventions, ID Naming Conventions +
+
note, Admonitions, Creating a note, + tip, caution, important, or warning +
+
rules for defining an ID, ID Naming Conventions +
+
tip, Admonitions, Creating a note, + tip, caution, important, or warning +
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warning, Admonitions, Creating a note, + tip, caution, important, or warning +
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Fedora Documentation Project

Version 0.3.3 (2007-12-15)

Copyright ?? 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 Red Hat, Inc. and others

Introduction
1. Prerequisites
1.1. System Packages
1.2. Fedora Documentation Tools
1.3. Naming Conventions
1.3.1. Module Names
1.3.2. File Names
2. How Modules Work
2.1. Structure of a Module
2.2. The Document Build Sys! tem< /span>
2.2.1. The Document Makefile
2.2.2. The Document rpm-info.xml
2.3. Build System Actions
2.4. Adding or Changing Targets
2.5. Using Document Image Files
2.6. Adding a New DocBook XML File
2.7. Adding a Translation
3. Fedora Documentation Guide! lines
3.1. File Header
3.1.1. XML Header
3.1.2. CVS Id Header
3.2. ID Naming Conventions
3.3. XML Tags
3.4. Admonitions
3.4.1. Creating a note, - tip, caution, important, or warning
3.5. Screenshots
3.6. Previewing Your Work
4. Emacs and PSGML Mode
4.1. Installing PSGML
4.2. Setting Up Your .emacs File
4.3. Customizing Emacs
4.4. Basic Emacs Commands
4.5. Examples
4.5.1. Tag Completion
4.5.2. Tag Closure
4.5.3. Other Emacs Tasks
4.5.3.1. Working with One Window
4.5.3.2. Saving Work
4.5.3.3. The "Clear/Quit" Command
4.5.3.4. Opening a new file
4.5.3.5. Clo! sing Emacs
4.6. Additional Resources
5. VIM and DocBook
5.1. Setting Up Your .vimrc File
5.2. Keymapping with VIM
5.3. Additional VIM Resources
6. The Layout of a Tutorial
6.1. The Article
6.2. The Metadata
7. Publishing Official Docum! entation
7.1. How the Site Works
7.2. Setting Up a Web Sandbox
7.3. Creating a New Publication
7.3.1. General Guidelines
7.3.2. Adding Content
7.3.3. Pushing Content to the Web
8. CVS
8.1. How CVS Works
8.2. Preparing For CVS Use
8.2.1. Is CVS Installed On Your System
8.2.2. Generating SSH Keys
8.3. Configuring For CVS Access
8.3.1. Avoiding Repetitive Typing
8.3.2. Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access
8.3.3. Configuring Read/Write CVS Access
8.4. Basic CVS Commands
8.4.1. Checking Out Modules
8.4.1.1. Checking Out Branches of Modules
8.4.2. Updating Files
8.4.3. Committing Files
8.4.4. Adding Files
8.4.5. Managing Binary Files
8.4.6. Removing Files
8.4.7. Status of Files
8.4.8. Res! olving Conflicts
8.4.9. Summary
9. Acknowledgments
Index
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Version 0.4 (2008-04-09)

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Copyright ?? 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Red Hat, Inc. and others

+ + +
+
+
+
+
Introduction
+
1. Prerequisites
+
+
1.1. System Packages
+
1.2. Fedora Documentation Tools
+
1.3. Naming Conventions
+
+
1.3.1. Module Names
+
1.3.2. File Names
+
+
+
2. How Modules Work
+
+
2.1. Structure of a Module
+
2.2. The Document Build System
+
+
2.2.1. The Document Makefile
+
2.2.2. The Document rpm-info.xml
+
+
2.3. Build System Actions
+
2.4. Adding or Changing Targets
+
2.5. Using Document Image Files
+
2.6. Adding a New DocBook XML File
+
2.7. Adding a Translation
+
+
3. Fedora Documentation Guidelines
+
+
3.1. File Header
+
+
3.1.1. XML Header
+
3.1.2. CVS Id Header
+
+
3.2. ID Naming Conventions
+
3.3. XML Tags
+
3.4. Admonitions
+
3.4.1. Creating a note, + tip, caution, important, or warning
+
3.5. Screenshots
+
3.6. Previewing Your Work
+
+
4. Emacs and PSGML Mode
+
+
4.1. Installing PSGML
+
4.2. Setting Up Your .emacs File
+
4.3. Customizing Emacs
+
4.4. Basic Emacs Commands
+
4.5. Examples
+
+
4.5.1. Tag Completion
+
4.5.2. Tag Closure
+
4.5.3. Other Emacs Tasks
+
+
4.5.3.1. Working with One Window
+
4.5.3.2. Saving Work
+
4.5.3.3. The "Clear/Quit" Command
+
4.5.3.4. Opening a new file
+
4.5.3.5. Closing Emacs
+
+
+
4.6. Additional Resources
+
+
5. VIM and DocBook
+
+
5.1. Setting Up Your .vimrc File
+
5.2. Keymapping with VIM
+
5.3. Additional VIM Resources
+
+
6. The Layout of a Tutorial
+
+
6.1. The Article
+
6.2. The Metadata
+
+
7. Publishing Official Documentation
+
+
7.1. How the Site Works
+
7.2. Setting Up a Web Sandbox
+
7.3. Creating a New Publication
+
+
7.3.1. General Guidelines
+
7.3.2. Adding Content
+
7.3.3. Pushing Content to the Web
+
+
+
8. CVS
+
+
8.1. How CVS Works
+
8.2. Preparing For CVS Use
+
+
8.2.1. Is CVS Installed On Your System
+
8.2.2. Generating SSH Keys
+
+
8.3. Configuring For CVS Access
+
+
8.3.1. Avoiding Repetitive Typing
+
8.3.2. Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access
+
8.3.3. Configuring Read/Write CVS Access
+
+
8.4. Basic CVS Commands
+
+
8.4.1. Checking Out Modules
+
8.4.1.1. Checking Out Branches of Modules
+
8.4.2. Updating Files
+
8.4.3. Committing Files
+
8.4.4. Adding Files
+
8.4.5. Managing Binary Files
+
8.4.6. Removing Files
+
8.4.7. Status of Files
+
8.4.8. Resolving Conflicts
+
8.4.9. Summary
+
+
+
9. Localization (L10n)
+
+
9.1. PO Files
+
9.2. Creating or Updating a POT
+
9.3. Updating PO Files
+
9.4. Checking Statistics
+
+
10. Acknowledgments
+
Index
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    2. Edit the Makefile and add the filename to the XMLFILES-${1} listing. Append a \ to the last existing line, and on the next line add an entry for the new file. Remember to add the ${1}/ prefix as a substitute for - the language directory name.

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Translations are stored as PO (portable object) files, which the toolchain transforms into translated documents. Each PO file is based on the POT (PO template) for the document and translated by the Fedora Translation Project. To add a - translation, follow these steps:

  1. If the po/ + translation, follow these steps:

    +
      +
    1. +

      If the po/ directory does not exist, create it and add it to - CVS:

      mkdir po && cvs add po/

    2. If it does not exist, create the POT file:

      make pot

    3. Add the new translation language to the + CVS:

      +
      mkdir po && cvs add po/
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      4. +
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      If it does not exist, create the POT file:

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      make pot
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    5. Add the new translation language to the OTHERS listing in the - Makefile.

    6. Although translators often copy the POT manually to + Makefile.

      7. +
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      Although translators often copy the POT manually to create the new PO file, the following command also - works:

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+ + + + + + + +
2.2.??The Document Build System
+Prev??Chapter??2.??How Modules Work??Next +
+
+
+
+

2.2.??The Document Build System

+

The build system can render the document into another format such as HTML or PDF, using - make(1)[2] and shell scripts. Authors need + make(1)[2] and shell scripts. Authors need no prior experience with either shell scripts or a make(1). -

2.2.1.??The Document Makefile

+

+
+

2.2.1.??The Document Makefile +

+

Each individual document has its own Makefile, which only needs to be a few lines long. The document Makefile content is designed for cut and paste operations. -

+

+

Example??2.2, ???Sample Document Makefile??? below shows the whole Makefile for a simple document with two files and two translations. - 

DOCBASE         = example-doc
+      

+

+
DOCBASE         = example-doc
 PRI_LANG        = en_US
 DOC_ENTITIES    = doc-entities
 
@@ -35,19 +70,45 @@
 for d in docs-common ../docs-common ../../docs-common; do 
 if [ -f $$d/Makefile.common ]; then echo "$$d/Makefile.common"; break; fi; done 
 endef
-include $(shell $(find-makefile-common))
Example??2.2.??Sample Document Makefile


+include $(shell $(find-makefile-common))
+

Example??2.2.??Sample Document Makefile

+
+

Do not be concerned with some of the more complicated syntax such as the XMLFILES_template stanza. An explanation for this template appears a few paragraphs - below.

Makefile Variables
+
VariableExplanation
DOCBASEThis variable contains the name for the main (parent) XML + below.

+
+
Makefile Variables
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
VariableExplanation
DOCBASEThis variable contains the name for the main (parent) XML document. Follow convention by naming your document after - the module name.
PRI_LANGThis variable contains the ISO code for the original + the module name.
PRI_LANGThis variable contains the ISO code for the original version of the document, such as - en_US.
DOC_ENTITIESThis variable contains a listing of any files containing + en_US.
DOC_ENTITIESThis variable contains a listing of any files containing entity definitions. The Fedora Documentation Project uses a special XML format to record document-specific entities, so they can be translated and built on the fly like any other XML document. An - example is shown later in this guide.
XMLFILES_templateThis template allows the build tools to work with the + example is shown later in this guide.
XMLFILES_templateThis template allows the build tools to work with the document in multiple languages once it is translated. The ${1} marking is a variable used to substitute the appropriate language. This @@ -55,29 +116,71 @@ duplicate this section exactly except for the actual filenames. Prepend the text ${1}/, in place of the language code directory name, to each filename in your document. -
+ + +
[Important]Files Exempt From Listing

Do not include the document-specific entities XML file or +

+
+
+ + + + +
[Important]Files Exempt From Listing

Do not include the document-specific entities XML file or the rpm-info.xml file, which will be - discussed later in this guide.

+ discussed later in this guide.

+

The final section, beginning with define, locates the main Makefile.common for the build system. This Makefile.common file contains all the make(1) targets and rules to actually build the document and the various archives. -

2.2.2.??The Document rpm-info.xml

Each document module's primary language directory contains a +

+
+
+

2.2.2.??The Document rpm-info.xml +

+

Each document module's primary language directory contains a file called rpm-info.xml. This file contains document-specific metadata used to generate revision history, copyright, and contributor information. It follows a DTD specification included with the rest of the build system - tools.


[2] In Linux and Fedora documentation, references to + tools.

+
+
+
+

[2] In Linux and Fedora documentation, references to commands often include a number inside parentheses. This number represents the section of manpages that includes documentation for that command. To read the manpage for make(1), use the command man 1 - make.

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+ make.

+
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + +
+Prev??Up??Next +
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+
+ displayFooter('$Date$'); ?> + Index: sn-creating-new-pub.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/documentation-guide/en_US/sn-creating-new-pub.php,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.4 -r1.5 --- sn-creating-new-pub.php 15 Dec 2007 22:02:23 -0000 1.4 +++ sn-creating-new-pub.php 10 Apr 2008 02:37:06 -0000 1.5 @@ -1,3 +1,15 @@ + + + +7.3.??Creating a New Publication + + + + + + + + -
7.3.??Creating a New Publication
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7.3.??Creating a New Publication

7.3.1.??General Guidelines

Follow these guidelines to ensure maintainability and ease - of use for all publishers.

  • Use a short, descriptive name for the document + +

    + + + + + + + +
    7.3.??Creating a New Publication
    +Prev??Chapter??7.??Publishing Official Documentation??Next +
    +
    +
    +
    +

    7.3.??Creating a New Publication

    +
    +

    7.3.1.??General Guidelines

    +

    Follow these guidelines to ensure maintainability and ease + of use for all publishers.

    +
      +

    • Use a short, descriptive name for the document directory. The module name from its Docs CVS location is - usually appropriate. Good examples include install-guide/ or example-tutorial/.

    • Under the document directory, include a branch directory + usually appropriate. Good examples include install-guide/ or example-tutorial/.

      • +

    • Under the document directory, include a branch directory if the document references specific features of a particular - Fedora release.

    • Under the branch directory (or document directory if no + Fedora release.

      • +

    • Under the branch directory (or document directory if no branches are necessary), make at least a en_US/ directory. Make an additional directory for each locale that has been fully - translated.

    7.3.2.??Adding Content

    To add content, follow the procedure below. The following + translated.

    • +
+
+
+

7.3.2.??Adding Content

+

To add content, follow the procedure below. The following commands show an example of adding content for a new document called the Foobar Tutorial. This document includes a translation for the "zz_XX" locale and follows - specifics of each Fedora release.

  1. Make the required directory structure.

    cd ~/fedora/web/html/docs/
+	specifics of each Fedora release.
    
+
      
+
    1. 
+
      Make the required directory structure.
      
+
      cd ~/fedora/web/html/docs/
 mkdir foobar-tutorial
 mkdir foobar-tutorial/f7
-mkdir foobar-tutorial/f7/{en_US,zz_XX}
    2. Build the HTML version of each translation of the
-	    document from Docs CVS.
      cd ~/my-docs/foobar-tutorial/F-7/
-make html-en_US html-zz_XX
    3. Copy the HTML content to the web sandbox.
      cd ~/fedora/web/html/docs/foobar-tutorial/f7/
+mkdir foobar-tutorial/f7/{en_US,zz_XX}
      
+
      4. 
+
    4. 
+
      Build the HTML version of each translation of the
+	    document from Docs CVS.
      
+
      cd ~/my-docs/foobar-tutorial/F-7/
+make html-en_US html-zz_XX
      
+
      5. 
+
    5. 
+
      Copy the HTML content to the web sandbox.
      
+
      cd ~/fedora/web/html/docs/foobar-tutorial/f7/
 cp -r ~/my-docs/foobar-tutorial/F-7/foobar-tutorial-en_US/ en_US/
-cp -r ~/my-docs/foobar-tutorial/F-7/foobar-tutorial-zz_XX/ zz_XX/
    6. Convert the HTML in each directory to PHP using the
+cp -r ~/my-docs/foobar-tutorial/F-7/foobar-tutorial-zz_XX/ zz_XX/
    +
    2. +
  2. +

    Convert the HTML in each directory to PHP using the provided docbookhtml2php.py - script.

    cd en_US/
+	    script.
    
+
    cd en_US/
 ~/fedora/web/scripts/docbookhtml2php.py *html && rm -f *html
 cd ../zz_XX/
-~/fedora/web/scripts/docbookhtml2php.py *html && rm -f *html

  3. Create any necessary index.php +~/fedora/web/scripts/docbookhtml2php.py *html && rm -f *html +

    4. +
  4. +

    Create any necessary index.php files for the overall directories. Each document and branch directory must have an index.php file directing users to appropriate content. In this example, @@ -40,13 +98,34 @@ foobar-tutorial/f7/index.php. You do not need to write these files from scratch. Copy an existing file from another document, and change it as needed to suit - the new document.

    Depending on content, publication may include changing - a higher-level index.php file.

  5. To test the changes in your sandbox, open a web browser + the new document.

    +

    Depending on content, publication may include changing + a higher-level index.php file.

    +
    6. +
  6. +

    To test the changes in your sandbox, open a web browser and point it at - http://docs.localhost.localdomain/.

    +
    [Important]Always Test Changes

    Do not proceed further until you test all + http://docs.localhost.localdomain/.

    +
    + + + + +
    [Important]Always Test Changes

    Do not proceed further until you test all changes. Check that all links and index - pages work.

    7.3.3.??Pushing Content to the Web

    To push your new content to the web site, follow this - procedure:

    1. Add all the new file content to CVS.

      cd ~/fedora/web/html/docs/
+	      pages work.
    +
    7. +
+
+
+

7.3.3.??Pushing Content to the Web

+

To push your new content to the web site, follow this + procedure:

+
    +
  1. +

    Add all the new file content to CVS.

    +
    cd ~/fedora/web/html/docs/
 cvs add foobar-tutorial
 cd foobar-tutorial
 cvs add f7
@@ -59,12 +138,43 @@
 cd ../../
 cvs add foobar-tutorial/index.php
 cvs add foobar-tutorial/f7/index.php
-

  2. Commit the changes to CVS. Use a message that describes - the document being committed.

    cvs ci -m 'message about document' foobar-tutorial/

  3. Tag the content LIVE in - CVS.

    cvs tag -F LIVE foobar-tutorial/
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7.2.??Setting Up a Web Sandbox??Home??Chapter??8.??CVS
+ + +
  • +

    Commit the changes to CVS. Use a message that describes + the document being committed.

    +
    cvs ci -m 'message about document' foobar-tutorial/
    +
    • +
  • +

    Tag the content LIVE in + CVS.

    +
    cvs tag -F LIVE foobar-tutorial/
    +
    • +
    +
    +
    +
    +
    + + + + + + + + + + + +
    +Prev??Up??Next +
    7.2.??Setting Up a Web Sandbox??Home??Chapter??8.??CVS
    +
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    8.3.??Configuring For CVS Access
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    8.3.??Configuring For CVS Access

    8.! 3.1.??Avoiding Repetitive Typing

    + +

    + + + + + + + +
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    +
    +

    8.3.??Configuring For CVS Access

    +
    +

    8.3.1.??Avoiding Repetitive Typing

    +

    Many CVS commands need certain command line switches to operate consistently. Rather than typing them every time that command is used, you can save the switches in a file that CVS will read before executing your command line. -

    +

    +

    Create a file named ~/.cvsrc in your home directory. It should contain the following commands, one per line: - 

    cvs -z3
+	
    
+
    cvs -z3
 diff -uNp
 rdiff -uNp
-update -dP
    
-

    8.3.2.??Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access

    +update -dP +

    +

    +
    +
    +

    8.3.2.??Configuring for Read-Only CVS Access

    +

    If your goal is to download the various Fedora documents and to render them on your system, you only need read-only access to the CVS repository. Follow the instructions in this section and then skip directly to Section??8.4.1, ???Checking Out Modules???. -

    +

    +

    Change directories to where you want your files from CVS to be located, and execute the following commands: - 

    export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous at cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs
+      
    
+
    export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous at cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs
 cvs login
 cvs checkout module-name
 cvs checkout module-name
-cd module-name
    
+cd module-name
    +

    Once you have checked the module out, the value of your $CVSROOT environment variable does not matter. It is stored in the file CVS/Root @@ -43,28 +83,58 @@ current working directory has a CVS/ directory, the CVS program will automatically locate the Fedora Documentation Project repository. -

    8.3.3.??Configuring Read/Write CVS Access

    +

    +
    +
    +

    8.3.3.??Configuring Read/Write CVS Access

    +

    To author a new document or to change an existing one, you must obtain full read/write access to the Fedora Documentation Project CVS repository. For the full details on this process, refer to the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join web site. -

    +

    +

    Every author has a unique $CVSROOT to access the CVS repository: - 

    export CVSROOT=:ext:yourname@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs
-export CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/ssh

    +

    +
    export CVSROOT=:ext:yourname@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs
+export CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/ssh
    +

    With the $CVSROOT and $CVS_RSH environment variables in place, you can access the repository: - 

    cvs co -c

    +

    +
    cvs co -c
    +

    You will be asked for the passphrase for your SSH key. Press Enter to receive a list of modules already in the repository. -

    Prev??Up??Next
    8.2.??Preparing For CVS Use??Home??8.4.??Basic CVS Commands
    +

    +
    +
    +
    +
    + + + + + + + + + + + +
    +Prev??Up??Next +
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    8.4.??Basic CVS Commands
    Prev??Chapter??8.??CVS??Next

    8.4.??Basic CVS Commands

    + +

    + + + + + + + +
    8.4.??Basic CVS Commands
    +Prev??Chapter??8.??CVS??Next +
    +
    +
    +
    +

    8.4.??Basic CVS Commands

    +

    After configuring your system to work with CVS, checkout the modules you will be working on. -

    +
    [Tip]Tip

    +

    +
    + + + + +
    [Tip]Tip
    +

    To see if you need a correctly-set $CVSROOT variable, or the -m repository command line switch, see if you have a CVS/ subdirectory in your working directory. -

    +

    +

    If you have a CVS/ directory, CVS ignores any $CVSROOT or -m command line switch. -

    8.4.1.??Checking Out Modules

    +

    +
    +
    +

    8.4.1.??Checking Out Modules

    +

    You only need to checkout a module once. Once a local copy of the module is on your system, you may continue to use it for additional work. -

    +

    +

    To checkout a module, use the following command: - 

    cvs co module-name

    +

    +
    cvs co module-name
    +

    For example, to checkout the example-tutorial module, change to your work directory, and execute the following command: - 

    cvs co example-tutorial

    +

    +
    cvs co example-tutorial
    +

    A directory called example-tutorial/ is created in the current directory. -

    +

    +

    If a branch name is not specified when checking out a module, it is referred to as the HEAD of the CVS module. -

    8.4.1.1.??Checking Out Branches of Modules

    +

    +
    +

    8.4.1.1.??Checking Out Branches of Modules

    +

    Think of a CVS branch as a version of the files for a particular version of a manual or package. -

    +

    +

    To checkout a branch of a module, use the following command: - 

    cvs co -d directory -r branchname module-name

    +

    +
    cvs co -d directory -r branchname module-name
    +

    A directory named directory is created, and the files for the branchname branch of the module-name module are copied in the directory. -

    +

    +

    For example, to checkout a branch named BRANCH-VERSION-1.2 from the mymodule module, use the command: - 

    cvs co -d mymodule-1.2 -r BRANCH-VERSION-1.2 mymodule

    +

    +
    cvs co -d mymodule-1.2 -r BRANCH-VERSION-1.2 mymodule
    +

    The BRANCH-VERSION-1.2 branch of the module is checked out in the mymodule-1.2 directory on your system. -

    +

    +

    To determine which branches and tags exist for a file, use the command: - 

    cvs status -v filename

    +

    +
    cvs status -v filename
    +

    For example, the status of the file foo.xml is as follows: - 

    +        
    
+
     ===================================================================
 File: foo.xml     Status: Up-to-date
 
@@ -75,23 +135,42 @@
    Sticky Options:      (none)
 
    Existing Tags:
-        BRANCH-VERSION-1.2              (branch: 1.25.2)
    
+        BRANCH-VERSION-1.2              (branch: 1.25.2)
    +

    Only tags marked as branches in the second column under the Existing Tags section can be checked out as a branch. -

    8.4.2.??Updating Files

    +

    +
    +
    +
    +

    8.4.2.??Updating Files

    +

    To retrieve the latest versions of the files in a module, change to the directory that contains the files for the module and execute the command: - 

    cvs update

    +

    +
    cvs update
    +

    The latest versions of all the files in the module are downloaded into your local copy. If you notice a file conflict, refer to Section??8.4.8, ???Resolving Conflicts???. -

    8.4.3.??Committing Files

    +

    +
    +
    +

    8.4.3.??Committing Files

    +

    After modifying files in your local version of a module, commit them to save the changes on the CVS server: - 

    cvs commit -m "some log message" filename
    +
    [Note]Note

    +

    +
    cvs commit -m "some log message" filename
    +
    + + + + +
    [Note]Note

    If you would prefer to write your log message with your favorite text editor, as defined by the $VISUAL or the $EDITOR environment variable, just omit @@ -99,68 +178,106 @@ message". The buffer will already contain comments describing the change. You do not need to delete them as you enter your own text. -

    +

    +

    The log message should be as descriptive as possible so that you and anyone else working on the module understands what changed. Using a log message such as updated some files does not accurately describe what has changed and will not help you in the future. If you are correcting a bug, use the Bugzilla reference. -

    +

    +

    The filename can be one filename, a series of filenames separated by spaces, or a group of filenames specified using wildcards such as *.png or foo-*.xml. -

    +

    +

    If no filename or group of filenames is specified in the commit command, all outstanding changes of any kind are committed to the server. The command is recursive and will include changes in any subdirectories of the - module.

    +
    [Caution]Committing Changes

    + module.

    +
    + + + + +
    [Caution]Committing Changes

    Use caution when issuing the commit command without any filenames because you might not remember exactly what files changed. -

    +

    +

    If you notice a file conflict, refer to Section??8.4.8, ???Resolving Conflicts???. -

    8.4.4.??Adding Files

    +

    +
    +
    +

    8.4.4.??Adding Files

    +

    To add a file to a module, create the file in your local copy then execute the following command: - 

    cvs add file-to-add

    +

    +
    cvs add file-to-add
    +

    After adding the file, you must commit the add to copy it to the server: - 

    cvs commit -m "some log message" file-to-add

    8.4.5.??Managing Binary Files

    +

    +
    cvs commit -m "some log message" file-to-add
    +
    +
    +

    8.4.5.??Managing Binary Files

    +

    The most commonly-archived files are simple text files, but sometimes binary files are also archived. The cvs program recognizes most common filename extensions such as .png or .jpg, and usually behaves as the user intends. -

    +

    +

    When a copy of a file is checked out of the repository, cvs scans it for special keywords such as $id:$. The cvs program replaces the keyword with a generated value such as the file version number. -

    +

    +

    This keyword substitution usually corrupts binary files, so it must be turned off if cvs does not recognize your file as binary. To mark your file as being binary, and thus needing the keyword expansion turned off, use the command: - 

    cvs admin -kk filename

    +

    +
    cvs admin -kk filename
    +

    Note that the file must already be checked in to the CVS repository before the admin command can be used. This is acceptable, since the keyword expansion is done as the file is checked out and copied to the local directory, not when the file is committed to the repository. -

    +
    [Tip]Recovering a binary file

    +

    +
    + + + + +
    [Tip]Recovering a binary file

    If you check a binary file into the repository and then find it corrupted when it is checked out, do not panic. Use the admin command as described above, delete your local file copy, and check it out again. -

    8.4.6.??Removing Files

    +

    +
    +
    +

    8.4.6.??Removing Files

    +

    If a file is no longer needed in the module, use the remove command to remove it from your local copy and then commit the removal to the @@ -168,62 +285,92 @@ the module, an archived copy is still kept on the server and can be retrieved at any time with the add command. - 

    cvs rm -f file-to-remove

    +

    +
    cvs rm -f file-to-remove
    +

    After removing the file, you must commit the removal: - 

    cvs commit -m "some log message" file-to-remove

    +

    +
    cvs commit -m "some log message" file-to-remove
    +

    You can not use wildcards in the commit command to identify removed files. They must be specified with a exact filename. -

    +

    +

    If you need to rename a file, it is best to rename the file on the CVS server so that the history of the file is preserved. If you need to rename a file, send an email to cvsdocs-administrator at fedoraproject.org asking to have the file renamed. -

    8.4.7.??Status of Files

    +

    +
    +
    +

    8.4.7.??Status of Files

    +

    Sometimes it is necessary to view the status of a file in a CVS module. To view the status of a file, use the command: - 

    cvs status filename

    +

    +
    cvs status filename
    +

    The status report of a repository file is as follows: -

    Up-to-date

    +

    +
    +
    Up-to-date
    +

    Your revision of the file is identical to the latest revision on the CVS server. -

    Locally Modified

    +

    +
    Locally Modified
    +

    You have updated to the latest revision from the server, but then you modified the file on your system. -

    Locally Added

    +

    +
    Locally Added
    +

    You added the file with the cvs add command but have not yet committed the addition of the file. -

    Locally Removed

    +

    +
    Locally Removed
    +

    You removed the file with the cvs remove command but have not yet committed the removal. -

    Needs Checkout

    +

    +
    Needs Checkout
    +

    A newer version of the file is on the server and needs to be retrieved. Even though the status includes the word checkout, it really means that you need to update your files with the cvs update command. -

    Needs Patch

    +

    +
    Needs Patch
    +

    The revision in your local checkout needs a patch to be the latest revision from the server. Issue the cvs update command to resolve. -

    Needs Merge

    +

    +
    Needs Merge
    +

    A newer revision exists on the server and your local version contains modification not yet committed. This status usually occurs if you don't have the latest revision of the file and edit it anyway. -

    File had conflicts on merge

    +

    +
    File had conflicts on merge
    +

    Similar to Needs Merge, except when you tried to issue the cvs update command, the differences could not be resolved automatically. Refer to Section??8.4.8, ???Resolving Conflicts??? for more information on resolving conflicts. -

    Unknown

    +

    +
    Unknown
    +

    The CVS server does not know anything about this file. It has neither been added nor removed locally and has never been committed to the @@ -232,30 +379,39 @@ generated-index.sgml or for files that you want to add to the repository but have not yet issued the cvs add command. -

    8.4.8.??Resolving Conflicts

    +

    +
    +
    +
    +

    8.4.8.??Resolving Conflicts

    +

    If you modify a file and the same region is modified by someone else and committed first, you will probably see a message similar to the following when committing the file or updating your local copy of the module: - 

    RCS file: /cvs/docs/module-name/filename.sgml,v
+      
    
+
    RCS file: /cvs/docs/module-name/filename.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.12
 retrieving revision 1.13
 Merging differences between 1.12 and 1.13 into filename.sgml
 rcsmerge: warning: conflicts during merge
 cvs server: conflicts found in filename.sgml
-C filename.sgml
    
+C filename.sgml
    +

    To resolve the conflict, open the file, search for <<<<<<< and determine which version of the content is correct. For example: - 

    <para>
+      
    
+
    <para>
   Some sentence.
 <<<<<<< filename.sgml
   A sentence that was changed in the working copy.
 =======
   A same sentence that was changed differently and committed.
 >>>>>>> 1.13
-</para>
    
+</para>
    +

    The content between the <<<<<<<, and the ======= is the content @@ -263,55 +419,153 @@ ======= and the >>>>>>> is the content from the server. -

    +

    +

    Resolve the conflict by editing your copy, and commit the file. -

    8.4.9.??Summary

    +

    +
    +
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    8.4.9.??Summary

    +

    All commands assume you are in the proper directory for the CVS module. -

    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    CommandDescription
    cvs checkout +

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    ++++ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    CommandDescription
    +cvs checkout <module-name> or cvs co <module-name> - Creates a directory called + Creates a directory called <module-name> with the contents of the - module in the directory
    cvs co -d <directory> -r <branchname><module-name> - Creates the <directory> directory + module in the directory
    +cvs co -d <directory> -r <branchname><module-name> + Creates the <directory> directory with the contents of the <branchname> - branch of the <module-name> module
    cvs update or cvs up - Update your files with the latest files from the CVS server
    cvs add <filename> - Add a new file "filename" to the CVS server
    cvs commit -m "My message" + branch of the <module-name> module
    +cvs update or cvs up + Update your files with the latest files from the CVS server
    +cvs add <filename> + Add a new file "filename" to the CVS server
    +cvs commit -m "My message" <filename> - Update file <filename> with the - latest copy from your computer
    cvs log <filename> - View the commit messages for the file <filename> -
    cvs status <filename> - View status of the file, such as Locally + Update file <filename> with the + latest copy from your computer
    +cvs log <filename> + View the commit messages for the file <filename> +
    +cvs status <filename> + View status of the file, such as Locally Modified -
    cvs status -v <filename> - View existing tags and branches for file
    cvs diff <filename> - Show diff of the working copy of the file and the latest - version of the file for the branch
    cvs diff -r1.1 -r1.2 <filename> - Show diff of version 1.1 and 1.2 for file

    Table??8.1.??Basic CVS Commands


    +

    +cvs status -v <filename> + View existing tags and branches for file
    +cvs diff <filename> + Show diff of the working copy of the file and the latest + version of the file for the branch
    +cvs diff -r1.1 -r1.2 <filename> + Show diff of version 1.1 and 1.2 for file
    +

    Table??8.1.??Basic CVS Commands

    +
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    For more information, read the CVS manual available on your system at /usr/share/doc/cvs-<version-number>/cvs.ps (the CVS version might vary) and visit the CVS webpage available at http://www.cvshome.org/. -

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    Since CVS is using ssh to connect to the CVS server, you will be prompted your password before performing your CVS request. If you want to configure your machine so that you do not have to enter a - password, refer to the - Red Hat - Linux 9 Customization Guide for details - about using ssh-agent. -

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    Before using CVS, you need to establish an account with the CVS server. After you get an account, you do not need to perform these actions again. -

    8.2.1.??Is CVS Installed On Your System

    +

    +
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    8.2.1.??Is CVS Installed On Your System

    +

    You must have the CVS RPM package installed. Verify its presence by typing the command: - 

    rpm -q cvs

    +

    +
    rpm -q cvs
    +

    If you see output similar to cvs-1.11.19-1, then the package is installed. A message similar to package cvs @@ -24,42 +57,73 @@ cvs package before continuing. If you do not know how to do this, consult your system administrator who can install it for you. -

    8.2.2.??Generating SSH Keys

    +

    +
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    8.2.2.??Generating SSH Keys

    +

    The CVS server uses SSH Protocol 2 keys to authenticate users. Thus, you need to generate a pair of keys before applying for a CVS account. If you already have an SSH DSA key, you may skip this step. -

    +
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    [Tip]Tip
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    You already have a DSA key if you have the file ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub on the system. -

    +

    +

    If your existing DSA key does not require a passphrase, you are strongly urged to generate one that does require a passphrase. -

    +

    +
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    Use the following steps to generate a DSA key used by SSH Protocol 2. It is required for an cvs.fedoraproject.org CVS account. -

    1. +

      +
      +
        +
      1. +

        To generate a DSA key to work with version 2.0 protocol, at a shell prompt, type the command: - 

        ssh-keygen -t dsa

        +

        +
        ssh-keygen -t dsa
        +

        Accept the default file location of ~/.ssh/id_dsa. You are strongly urged to define and use a passphrase to enhance the security of your key. Enter a passphrase different than your account password and confirm it by entering it again. -

      2. +

        +
        3. +
      3. +

        Copy your new key to the correct file by typing the following at a shell prompt. - 

        cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
        +
        [Note]Note

        +

        +
        cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
        +
        + + + + +
        [Note]Note

        Check this command carefully before you press the Enter key. If ~/.ssh/authorized_keys already @@ -67,20 +131,56 @@ ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub will be appended to the end of the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. -

      4. +

        5. +
        5. +
      5. +

        Change the permissions of your ~/.ssh directory and your keys with the commands: - 

        chmod 700 ~/.ssh
-chmod 644 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
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      [Tip]Tip

      +

      +
      chmod 700 ~/.ssh
+chmod 644 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
      + + + +
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      You can have your system remember your passphrase so that you do not have to type it every time you access the CVS server. Refer to the documentation of the ssh-add program. -

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    The Meta key is usually the Alt key. -

    Emacs Commands
    + + + + + + +
    ShortcutDescription
    Ctrl+c, - Ctrl+pParse DTD
    Ctrl+c, Shift+,, TabDisplay list of valid tags
    Ctrl+c, Shift+,, type beginning of tag, - TabComplete the tag
    Ctrl+gCancel a command in the minibuffer
    Ctrl+c, /Close tag
    Ctrl+aMove cursor to beginning of line
    Ctrl+eMove cursor to the end of the line
    Ctrl+HomeMove cursor to the beginning of the file
    Ctrl+EndMove cursor to the end of the file
    Ctrl+kCut line
    Ctrl+yPaste line
    Ctrl+sSearch forward in the file
    Ctrl+r! Search b ackwards in the file
    Meta+$Check spelling of current word
    Meta+x ispell-word, EnterCheck spelling of current word
    Meta+x ispell-buffer, EnterCheck spelling of current buffer
    Ctrl+x, Ctrl+fOpen file
    Ctrl+x, Ctrl+sSave file
    Ctrl+x, Ctrl+cExit Emacs and prompt to save - files if necessary
    Meta+qFill paragraph
    Ctrl+c, Ctrl+aEdit attributes for a tag (for example, you can edit the +

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    ShortcutDescription
    +Ctrl+c, + Ctrl+p +Parse DTD
    +Ctrl+c, Shift+,, Tab +Display list of valid tags
    +Ctrl+c, Shift+,, type beginning of tag, + Tab +Complete the tag
    +Ctrl+g +Cancel a command in the minibuffer
    +Ctrl+c, / +Close tag
    +Ctrl+a +Move cursor to beginning of line
    +Ctrl+e +Move cursor to the end of the line
    +Ctrl+Home +Move cursor to the beginning of the file
    +Ctrl+End +Move cursor to the end of the file
    +Ctrl+k +Cut line
    +Ctrl+y +Paste line
    +Ctrl+s +Search forward in the file
    +Ctrl+r +Search backwards in the file
    +Meta+$ +Check spelling of current word
    +Meta+x ispell-word, Enter +Check spelling of current word
    +Meta+x ispell-buffer, Enter +Check spelling of current buffer
    +Ctrl+x, Ctrl+f +Open file
    +Ctrl+x, Ctrl+s +Save file
    +Ctrl+x, Ctrl+c +Exit Emacs and prompt to save + files if necessary
    +Meta+q +Fill paragraph
    +Ctrl+c, Ctrl+a +Edit attributes for a tag (for example, you can edit the url attribute of the - ulink tag)
    Ctrl+c, - Ctrl+cExit edit attributes
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    The colors, font, and geometry (default size of window) for Emacs in your ~/.Xresources file. The format for the settings is emacs.keyword:value. -

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    The following is a sample ~/.Xresources file. -

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    [Note]Note

    If you have other settings in your +

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    [Note]Note
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    If you have other settings in your ~/.Xresources, add the following to the end of the file. - 

    emacs.background: light gray
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+
    emacs.background: light gray
 emacs.foreground: black
 emacs.pointerColor: blue
 emacs.cursorColor: blue
 emacs.bitmapIcon: on
 emacs.font: fixed
-emacs.geometry: 90x25

    +emacs.geometry: 90x25 +

    +

    After modifying this file, execute the following command: - 

    xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources

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    xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
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    Then restart Emacs to apply the changes. -

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    The table or reference card of Emacs and PSGML commands can be confusing for beginners. This section provides some examples of how to use them. -

    4.5.1.??Tag Completion

    [Note]Note

    This section assumes that you have already parsed the DTD - file.

    +

    +
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    4.5.1.??Tag Completion

    +
    + + + + + +
    [Note]Note

    This section assumes that you have already parsed the DTD + file.

    +

    To avoid having to type a tag repeatedly, use the key combination Ctrl-c, followed by <. At the bottom of the Emacs window, the following prompt appears: - 

    Tag: <

    +

    +
    Tag: <
    +

    To view a list of available tags, use either the Tab or ?. If you know the first few letters of a tag, enter them, followed by Tab. If the letters uniquely identify a tag, that tag appears. If more than one completion exists, a complete list of possible tags appears. -

    +

    +

    If you hit Ctrl+c, <, k, a prompt appears similar to the example below: - 

    Click mouse-2 on a completion to select it.
+      
    
+
    Click mouse-2 on a completion to select it.
 In this buffer, type RET to select the completion near point.
 
 Possible completions are:
 <keycap>                 <keycode>
-<keycombo>               <keysym>

    4.5.2.??Tag Closure

    +<keycombo> <keysym> +

    +
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    4.5.2.??Tag Closure

    +

    After you open a tag, you must close it. The easiest way to close an open tag is to use the key sequence Ctrl+c, /. This sequence closes the most recently opened tag. -

    4.5.3.??Other Emacs Tasks

    4.5.3.1.??Working with One Window

    Sometimes in Emacs, the window +

    +
    +
    +

    4.5.3.??Other Emacs Tasks

    +
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    4.5.3.1.??Working with One Window

    +

    Sometimes in Emacs, the window becomes split, with tags completions or other text in an alternate window. To return to a single window, use the key - sequence Ctrl+x, 1.

    4.5.3.2.??Saving Work

    To save your work, use the key sequence - Ctrl+x, Ctrl+s.

    4.5.3.3.??The "Clear/Quit" Command

    If the tag completion process becomes unwieldy or + sequence Ctrl+x, 1.

    +
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    4.5.3.2.??Saving Work

    +

    To save your work, use the key sequence + Ctrl+x, Ctrl+s.

    +
    +
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    4.5.3.3.??The "Clear/Quit" Command

    +

    If the tag completion process becomes unwieldy or confusing, use the keysequence Ctrl+g to exit back to the text. Emacs clears any prompts and returns - to the buffer text.

    4.5.3.4.??Opening a new file

    To open a new file, use the key sequence + to the buffer text.

    +
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    4.5.3.4.??Opening a new file

    +

    To open a new file, use the key sequence Ctrl+x, Ctrl+f. A prompt appears at the bottom of the Emacs window. Enter the file name, using Tab completion if desired, of the file - you wish to open.

    4.5.3.5.??Closing Emacs

    To close Emacs use the key + you wish to open.

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    4.5.3.5.??Closing Emacs +

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    To close Emacs use the key sequence Ctrl+x, Ctrl+c. If you have not saved your work, Emacs prompts you to save any - changed files.

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    For Emacs to parse your DocBook documents correctly, you must have a .emacs file. Cut and paste the following into your existing .emacs file or create a new one that contains the following lines: - 

    ;; turn on auto-fill in `text-mode' and derived modes 
+    
    
+
    ;; turn on auto-fill in `text-mode' and derived modes 
 ;;(mail, news, etc)
 (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)
 
@@ -134,21 +163,45 @@
 
 
  (global-set-key [(f1)] (lambda () (interactive) (manual-
-       entry (current-word))))
    
+       entry (current-word))))
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    If you have a wheel mouse and are using Emacs version 21, you can add the following to your .emacs file so your wheel will work in Emacs: - 

    ;; Enable wheelmouse support by default for emacs 21
+    
    
+
    ;; Enable wheelmouse support by default for emacs 21
 (cond (window-system
 (mwheel-install)
-))
    
+))
    +

    If you are using the older version 20 of Emacs, add the following instead: - 

    ;; Enable wheelmouse support by default
-(require 'mwheel)
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    The Fedora Documentation Project provides the tools, scripts, and stylesheets to transform your XML documents into other output formats such as HTML. In addition, these tools can build your document into a RPM package. To take advantage of these services, follow the conventions in this section to name your files. -

    On the CVS server, directories that contain document files are +

    +

    On the CVS server, directories that contain document files are called modules. Each module represents a single document. Each document may consist of several branches if that document changes with each release of Fedora. Contributors can check out single branches of these modules or the entire module. Each document or branch - may contain multiple XML source files.

    Use the cvs co -c command to view existing - module names.

    cd ~/localrepo/fedora-docs/
+      may contain multiple XML source files.
    
+
    Use the cvs co -c command to view existing
+      module names.
    
+
    
+
    cd ~/localrepo/fedora-docs/
 about-fedora about-fedora &docs-common
 about-fedora-F-7 &about-fedora-F-7-dir &docs-common
 about-fedora-F-7-dir -d about-fedora about-fedora/F-7
@@ -38,39 +70,116 @@
 developer-guide developer-guide &docs-common
 docs         .
 docs-common  docs-common
-documentation-guide documentation-guide &docs-common
    Example??1.1.??Partial List of CVS Modules

    The leftmost entry in each line is the name of a module you
+documentation-guide documentation-guide &docs-common
    +

    Example??1.1.??Partial List of CVS Modules

    +
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    The leftmost entry in each line is the name of a module you can check out from CVS. The rest of the line ensures that checkouts include the proper branch of a document and the common - build tools. For more information on CVS, refer to Chapter??8, CVS.

    Note in the listing above that the + build tools. For more information on CVS, refer to Chapter??8, CVS.

    +

    Note in the listing above that the about-fedora module has two branches available. One branch is for Fedora 7 and one is for forward development to match the current work of developers. On the other hand, the documentation-guide module is - not branched.

    +
    [Tip]Modules Labeled -dir

    Modules ending with the suffix -dir are + not branched.

    +
    + + + + +
    [Tip]Modules Labeled -dir +

    Modules ending with the suffix -dir are not usually helpful to checkout directly. These modules do not include the common build tools and thus do not provide many of - the functions contributors require.

    1.3.1.??Module Names

    Choose a module name that accurately reflects your + the functions contributors require.

    +
    +

    1.3.1.??Module Names

    +

    Choose a module name that accurately reflects your document's subject, but avoid any name already taken. The document title without any use of the word fedora is a reasonable choice in most cases. Use the length descriptors tutorial or guide in the module name where - appropriate.

    +
    [Important]Avoid Redundancy

    + appropriate.

    +
    + + + + +
    [Important]Avoid Redundancy

    Do not use the word fedora to name modules in the Fedora Documentation Project CVS repository. -

    Correct Module Naming
    Document NameCVS Module Name
    Desktop User Guidedesktop-user-guide
    Software Management with - Yumyum-guide
    Using Puppup-tutorial

    1.3.2.??File Names

    Follow these guidelines for naming files to make - collaboration and document reuse easy:

    • As with module names, avoid using the word +

    +
    +
    Correct Module Naming
    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    Document NameCVS Module Name
    Desktop User Guidedesktop-user-guide
    Software Management with + Yum +yum-guide
    Using Pup +pup-tutorial
    +
    +
    +
    +

    1.3.2.??File Names

    +

    Follow these guidelines for naming files to make + collaboration and document reuse easy:

    +
      +

    • As with module names, avoid using the word fedora in file names since it is - redundant.

    • If the document is comprised of many XML files, avoid + redundant.

      • +

    • If the document is comprised of many XML files, avoid repeating the name of the document when naming the - constituent files.

    • Avoid numbering files to show order, since editors and + constituent files.

      • +

    • Avoid numbering files to show order, since editors and authors often rearrange documents or reuse their files in - other documents.

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    + other documents.

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    This section explains the ID naming convention. IDs are + +

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    3.2.??ID Naming Conventions

    +

    This section explains the ID naming convention. IDs are unique identifiers that allow DocBook XML to cross-reference a - section, chapter, or other element.

    The following general rules apply to IDs:

    • Keep an ID as short and simple as possible.

    • Start the ID with the special short two-character label. + section, chapter, or other element.

      +

      The following general rules apply to IDs:

      +
        +

      • Keep an ID as short and simple as possible.

        • +

      • Start the ID with the special short two-character label. This makes URLs and other references to this ID human - readable, by self-identifying the XML container type.

      + readable, by self-identifying the XML container type.

      • +
    +

    Example??3.1, ???Proper ID Usage??? demonstrates some example ID attributes used properly. - 

    <chapter id="ch-unique-name-of-chapter">
+    
    
+
    
+
    <chapter id="ch-unique-name-of-chapter">
 
 <section id="sn-install-make-disks">
 
-<figure id="fig-redhat-config-kickstart-basic">
    Example??3.1.??Proper ID Usage

    Two-Character Naming Conventions
    TagPrefix
    prefacepr-
    chapterch-
    sectionsn-
    figurefig-
    tabletb-
    appendixap-
    partpt-
    exampleex-
    Use the title of the item as the ID.  Make your titles unique
-      within a document to prevent conflicts.  For example:
    <chapter id="ch-how-to-fold-laundry">
+<figure id="fig-redhat-config-kickstart-basic">
    +

    Example??3.1.??Proper ID Usage

    +
    +
    +
    Two-Character Naming Conventions
    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    TagPrefix
    prefacepr-
    chapterch-
    sectionsn-
    figurefig-
    tabletb-
    appendixap-
    partpt-
    exampleex-
    +
    +

    Use the title of the item as the ID. Make your titles unique + within a document to prevent conflicts. For example:

    +
    <chapter id="ch-how-to-fold-laundry">
   <title>How To Fold Laundry</title>
   <section id="sn-folding-shirts">
-    <title>Folding Shirts</title>
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    + <title>Folding Shirts</title> +
    +
    +
    + + + + + + + + + + + +
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    3.6.??Previewing Your Work

    The GNOME Help browser, also known + +

    + + + + + + + +
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    3.6.??Previewing Your Work

    +

    The GNOME Help browser, also known as yelp, and the KDE Khelp documentation browser can render DocBook XML information as needed. Use these applications to preview your work if you prefer reading your work in a - browser-like environment. Run the following command:

    yelp file:///path/to/parent-file.xml

    Make sure to point the preferred help browser at the top + browser-like environment. Run the following command:

    +
    yelp file:///path/to/parent-file.xml
    +

    Make sure to point the preferred help browser at the top parent file of your XML document. Once the document loads, you - can add a bookmark for it for ease of use later.

    [Tip]Using Bookmarks

    Keeping your documents in the same place for every checkout - session makes help browser bookmarks more effective.

    Once you have a bookmark stored, it will appear in the help + can add a bookmark for it for ease of use later.

    +
    + + + + + +
    [Tip]Using Bookmarks

    Keeping your documents in the same place for every checkout + session makes help browser bookmarks more effective.

    +

    Once you have a bookmark stored, it will appear in the help browser at every use. You can now hit F1 during any GUI session to launch the help browser. Then choose your bookmark from the menu to preview your document at any - time.

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    + time.

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    + +

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    2.4.??Adding or Changing Targets

    +

    To add a new target and rules, place them at the bottom of the document Makefile, below the include line. Follow your target definitions with a double colon, not a single colon. The double colon allows you to specify additional rules for existing targets, or to write rules for a new target. -

    +

    +

    For more information on using make(1), consult the online documentation with the command info make in a terminal. -

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    7.2.??Setting Up a Web Sandbox

    To test document publishing, first set up a web sandbox on a - local Fedora system.

    1. Install the "Web Server" package group:

      su -c 'yum groupinstall "Web Server"'

    2. Create a folder for the web server to access the site - files.

      su -c 'mkdir /var/www/fedora'

    3. Change the permissions on this directory to make it - easier to access for your normal user account.

      su -c 'chown username /var/www/fedora'

    4. Link to the new directory from your home directory.

      ln -s /var/www/fedora ~/fedora

    5. Retrieve the web module from CVS.

      cd ~/fedora
-cvs -d :ext:username@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/fedora co web
      +
      [Note]Web CVS Access

      You must have access to the + +

      + + + + + + + +
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      +
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      7.2.??Setting Up a Web Sandbox

      +

      To test document publishing, first set up a web sandbox on a + local Fedora system.

      +
        +
      1. +

        Install the "Web Server" package group:

        +
        su -c 'yum groupinstall "Web Server"'
        +
        2. +
      2. +

        Create a folder for the web server to access the site + files.

        +
        su -c 'mkdir /var/www/fedora'
        +
        3. +
      3. +

        Change the permissions on this directory to make it + easier to access for your normal user account.

        +
        su -c 'chown username /var/www/fedora'
        +
        4. +
      4. +

        Link to the new directory from your home directory.

        +
        ln -s /var/www/fedora ~/fedora
        +
        5. +
      5. +

        Retrieve the web module from CVS.

        +
        cd ~/fedora
+cvs -d :ext:username@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/fedora co web
        +
        + + + + +
        [Note]Web CVS Access

        You must have access to the cvsweb module through the Fedora Account System to check in changes. If you do not have access, you can use :pserver:anonymous in place of :ext:username above. Visit the Fedora Account System at http://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ for more - information.

      6. Edit the /etc/hosts file and add the + information.

      +
      6. +
    6. +

      Edit the /etc/hosts file and add the following line after all other - lines:

      127.0.0.1  docs.localhost.localdomain

    7. Create a file + lines:

      +
      127.0.0.1  docs.localhost.localdomain
      +
      8. +
    8. +

      Create a file /etc/httpd/conf.d/fpo.conf with the - following content:

      NameVirtualHost *:80
+	  following content:
      
+
      NameVirtualHost *:80
 <VirtualHost *:80>
     ServerName docs.localhost.localdomain
     DocumentRoot /var/www/fedora/web/html/docs
@@ -30,13 +93,46 @@
     Alias /css /var/www/fedora/web/html/css
     Alias /include /var/www/fedora/web/include
     Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
-</Virtualhost>

    9. Create a file /etc/php.d/fpo.ini with - the following content:

      include_path = ".:/var/www/fedora/web/include"

    10. Start the web server using the following command:

      su -c '/sbin/service httpd start'

      To have the web server start at every boot, use the - following command:

      su -c '/sbin/chkconfig httpd on'

    To test the new sandbox site, open a Web browser and point it - at the URL http://docs.localhost.localdomain.

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    +</Virtualhost> + +
  • +

    Create a file /etc/php.d/fpo.ini with + the following content:

    +
    include_path = ".:/var/www/fedora/web/include"
    +
    • +
  • +

    Start the web server using the following command:

    +
    su -c '/sbin/service httpd start'
    +

    To have the web server start at every boot, use the + following command:

    +
    su -c '/sbin/chkconfig httpd on'
    +
    • +
    +

    To test the new sandbox site, open a Web browser and point it + at the URL http://docs.localhost.localdomain.

    +
    +
    +
    + + + + + + + + + + + +
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    3.5.??Screenshots

    Screenshots are illustrations that show the state of a display + +

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    3.5.??Screenshots

    +

    Screenshots are illustrations that show the state of a display the user may encounter. Screenshots can be either graphical or textual. However, screenshots use a great deal of space in a text document to convey relatively small amounts of information. The same space in the document can hold a greater amount of more descriptive and helpful information. Therefore, authors should avoid screenshots whenever possible in favor of descriptive - text.

    One of the isolated instances in which screenshots are useful + text.

    +

    One of the isolated instances in which screenshots are useful is to demonstrate a physical screen layout that is unfamiliar to a reader. This does not mean that illustrations of dialog boxes are good uses of screenshots. On the contrary, dialogs are simply instances of a user interface element with which a reader is already familiar. An annotated diagram in certain cases, however, explains to the reader where to find - functional landmarks on the screen such as menu bars.

    The steps for taking a graphical screenshot illustrate how + functional landmarks on the screen such as menu bars.

    +

    The steps for taking a graphical screenshot illustrate how using text to describe a procedure is more concise than a series - of screenshots.

    Graphical Screenshot

    1. Create a new user account to make screenshots. The + of screenshots.

      +
      +
      Graphical Screenshot
      +
        +

      1. Create a new user account to make screenshots. The new account uses the distribution default theme, fonts, and element sizes. The resulting screenshot has an appearance familiar to the largest number of readers, - and makes Fedora Documentation Project documents consistent.

      2. Before taking the screenshot, if possible, resize + and makes Fedora Documentation Project documents consistent.

        3. +

      3. Before taking the screenshot, if possible, resize the targeted GUI element(s) to the smallest possible size. The target image should be 500 pixels wide or less. If the screenshot includes more than one GUI element, you may need to resize the screenshot in a - following step.

      4. To take the screenshot, select the GUI element with + following step.

        5. +

      5. To take the screenshot, select the GUI element with the mouse to bring it to the forefront, or otherwise arrange the elements. Press Alt+Print Screen to capture a single GUI window. For capturing the entire desktop use Print Screen. If the shot includes multiple elements grouped closely together, crop the resulting PNG format image in The - GIMP.

      6. If necessary, resize the image using + GIMP.

        7. +

      7. If necessary, resize the image using The GIMP. Open the image, then right-click on it and choose Image ??? Scale Image.... With the chain symbol intact, set the New Width to 500 px, and click OK. Choose File ??? Save to save changes to the image before - converting it.

      8. + converting it.

        9. +
      9. +

        With the image open in The GIMP, right-click the image, and select File ??? Save As.... Under Determine File Type:, select PostScript, then click OK. Allow flattening of the image - by clicking Export.

        A Save as PostScript window + by clicking Export.

        +

        A Save as PostScript window appears. Select Encapsulated PostScript, and click - OK.

      Text Screenshot

      Textual screen information is also useful for readers. - Follow these guidelines for textual screenshots:

      • If a graphical screenshot illustrates a function, + OK.

        +
        • +
    +
    Text Screenshot
    +
    +

    Textual screen information is also useful for readers. + Follow these guidelines for textual screenshots:

    +
      +

    • If a graphical screenshot illustrates a function, and the textual mode has identical functions, do not include both, unless omitting either would make your - description unclear.

    • Make the information generic over specific, and omit + description unclear.

      • +

    • Make the information generic over specific, and omit any username and machine information if possible. Do not include the shell prompt unless it is vital to the - demonstration.

    • Separate what the user types from sample command - output.

    • When using screen + demonstration.

      • +

    • Separate what the user types from sample command + output.

      • +

    • When using screen to demonstrate a procedure, use userinput tags to show what the user types, and use computeroutput tags to show - the resulting output.

    + the resulting output.

    +
    +

    Example??3.2, ???Correct Textual Screenshot (XML Source and HTML)??? is an example of textual screenshot usage. - 

    <example id="ex-text-screenshot-good">
+	  
    
+
    
+
    
+
    <example id="ex-text-screenshot-good">
   <title>Correct Textual Screenshot</title>
   <para>To find all the currently active ssh sessions, 
     execute the following command:</para>
@@ -81,15 +136,45 @@
  3092 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
  8032 pts/0    S      0:00 ssh user at host.example.com
  8032 pts/1    S      0:00 ssh root at backup.example.com</computeroutput></screen>
-</example>
    To find all the currently active ssh sessions, execute the
-		following command:
    ps ax | grep ssh
    Output appears similar to the following:
     2564 ?        S      0:23 /usr/sbin/sshd
+</example>
    
+
    To find all the currently active ssh sessions, execute the
+		following command:
    
+
    ps ax | grep ssh
    
+
    Output appears similar to the following:
    
+
     2564 ?        S      0:23 /usr/sbin/sshd
  3092 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
  8032 pts/0    S      0:00 ssh user at host.example.com
- 8032 pts/1    S      0:00 ssh root at backup.example.com
    Example??3.2.??Correct Textual Screenshot (XML Source and
-	      HTML)

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    + 8032 pts/1 S 0:00 ssh root at backup.example.com +
    +

    Example??3.2.??Correct Textual Screenshot (XML Source and + HTML)

    +
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    + +
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    The rpm-info.xml file contains all the + +

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    +

    The rpm-info.xml file contains all the required metadata for the document. This metadata includes title, authorship, licensing, and revision history. Example??6.1, ???Example rpm-info.xml File??? illustrates the content of this - file:

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
+      file:
    
+
    
+
    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
 <!DOCTYPE rpm-info PUBLIC "-//Fedora//DTD Docs RPM-INFO V1.0//EN"
  "http://docs.fedoraproject.org/dtds/rpm-info.dtd">
 
@@ -37,13 +67,36 @@
       <details>First draft</details>
     </revision>
   </changelog>
-</rpm-info>
    Example??6.1.??Example rpm-info.xml File

    If you are not familiar with XML editing, copy and paste this
+</rpm-info>
    +

    Example??6.1.??Example rpm-info.xml File

    +
    +

    If you are not familiar with XML editing, copy and paste this file from an existing module and then edit the values for the various elements as appropriate. Consult Fedora Documentation Project members and help - channels for more assistance if needed.

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    +
    +
    +
    + + + + + + + + + + + +
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    + displayFooter('$Date$'); ?> + From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 10 11:26:05 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:26:05 +0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47FDF94D.7070209@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Ricky Zhou wrote: >> How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter >> >> Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow >> choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do >> it). Yet another translation rendered: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/bal.tar.gz -- nicu From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 11 00:29:53 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:29:53 -0400 Subject: Fedora Website Test Instance Message-ID: <20080411002953.GD11733@Max> Just to let everybody know, we now have a test website instance up: http://publictest10.fedoraproject.org/ This is generated hourly from the master branch, so it'll be handy for starting to test out F9 changes (and any other new modifications). Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Right now I've only made the changes to > > > > index.html.en and the fedora.css, and I've had to change some of the url > > > > pointers to work on my local system. > > > Looks great! I definitely like the idea of having a banner on the main > > > page - do you think we can get one in and translated in time for F9? > > +1, I think this is very nice. > > Also, we'd need to incorporate the rotating banner(s) some where. Feedback seemed positive - can I ask what is needed to get this completed? I've got some spare time tomorrow that I could work on things :) Best wishes, Jon From DRES00 at epersonas.net Sat Apr 12 22:11:42 2008 From: DRES00 at epersonas.net (DRES00 at epersonas.net) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:11:42 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Errors in translation "http://fedoraproject.org/es/get-fedora" Message-ID: <25345299.1208038302327.JavaMail.root@cps9> Hello. In http://fedoraproject.org/es/get-fedora there are some translation errors: We use "LiveCD" too, and web's translation is: "Medio Vivo" . The expresion "?Internet lenta? " is wrong. This must be "?Internet lento? ", with O in word "lento". Use O rather than A. The expresion "Get a copy of Fedora Media sent via postal mail." can be translated like "Obtenga una copia de Fedora via correo postal". Web says: "Obtenga una copia del medio de Fedora enviado por correo postal." "Purchase installation media for Fedora" , like "Compre una copia de Fedora" (buy a copy of Fedora). Web says: "Compre un medio de instalaci?n de Fedora" "Can't afford the price of installation media?" , like "?No puede pagar el precio de la copia?" Web says: "?No puede pagar el precio del medio de instalaci?n? " Generally "Installation media" is translated like "medio de instalaci?n", is correct but we don't use that expresion. We sometimes refer it with the name of the media (CD or DVD): "A CD of Fedora." 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One more translation rendered: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/hu.tar.gz -- nicu From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 10:31:44 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:31:44 -0400 Subject: Errors in translation "http://fedoraproject.org/es/get-fedora" In-Reply-To: <25345299.1208038302327.JavaMail.root@cps9> References: <25345299.1208038302327.JavaMail.root@cps9> Message-ID: <1208169104.586.4.camel@ignacio.lan> On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 00:11 +0200, DRES00 at epersonas.net wrote: > Hello. > > In http://fedoraproject.org/es/get-fedora there are some translation > errors: Thank you for your interest. More information regarding joining the Fedora Localization Project can be found on the following page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Spanish language translations are discussed on the following mailing list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-es Again, thank you for your concerns and we hope to be working more with you in the future. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From talonis1993 at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 17:57:06 2008 From: talonis1993 at gmail.com (Sin Shadow) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:57:06 -0600 Subject: Questions Message-ID: <741a081b0804141057y7bf5218cx1611ce0359af01e7@mail.gmail.com> Does fedora have an update feature? If so, is it an auto-update? -- Sin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From sk0rp at Safe-mail.net Tue Apr 15 02:59:43 2008 From: sk0rp at Safe-mail.net (sk0rp at Safe-mail.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:59:43 -0400 Subject: Translation proposition English to French Message-ID: Hi There, Since I noticed that the fedoraproject.org website is mainly in English, I would like to let you know that it would be my pleasure to translate from English to French the content of your site. As a new Fedora user, it would be my way to support the project until I can do more useful things. From zaman at mntex.com Tue Apr 15 05:33:14 2008 From: zaman at mntex.com (MN TEX) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:33:14 +0600 Subject: Webmail Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.1.20080415113056.02650470@mail.mntex.com> Dear Sir I have a email address "mntex at citech-bd.com" I use this through webmail but now I cannot see the "citech-bd" webmail page. pls advise. rgds Zaman From my.lnquyen at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 10:36:56 2008 From: my.lnquyen at gmail.com (My Name) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:36:56 -0400 Subject: not install FC9 on Lenovo Y410 Message-ID: <78b4f52b0804150336r13dfe24fj159816bf9855b672@mail.gmail.com> please help me! i can not install FC9 beta on laptop Lenovo 3000 Y410. Setup can not display image at change graphic mode (after detected VGA crad). (FC8 is Ok). Thanks you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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More information regarding joining the Fedora Localization Project can be found on the following page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N French language translations are discussed on the following mailing list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-fr Again, thank you for your concerns and we hope to be working more with you in the future. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You can do a WHOIS of the domain in question to discover who you need to contact regarding problems with the site. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 18:12:54 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:12:54 -0400 Subject: not install FC9 on Lenovo Y410 In-Reply-To: <78b4f52b0804150336r13dfe24fj159816bf9855b672@mail.gmail.com> References: <78b4f52b0804150336r13dfe24fj159816bf9855b672@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208283174.586.24.camel@ignacio.lan> On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 06:36 -0400, My Name wrote: > please help me! i can not install FC9 beta on laptop Lenovo 3000 Y410. > Setup can not display image at change graphic mode (after detected VGA > crad). > (FC8 is Ok). > Thanks you! The webmaster at fedoraproject.org address is only for issues related to Fedora's websites. For general Fedora support, please refer to the help resources described here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 15 18:16:20 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:16:20 -0400 Subject: Translation proposition English to French In-Reply-To: <1208282866.586.19.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1208282866.586.19.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <20080415181620.GB13670@Max> On 2008-04-15 02:07:46 PM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 22:59 -0400, sk0rp at Safe-mail.net wrote: > > Hi There, > > > > Since I noticed that the fedoraproject.org website is mainly in > > English, I would like to let you know that it would be my pleasure to > > translate from English to French the content of your site. As a new > > Fedora user, it would be my way to support the project until I can do > > more useful things. > > Thank you for your interest. More information regarding joining the > Fedora Localization Project can be found on the following page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N > > French language translations are discussed on the following mailing > list: > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-fr > > Again, thank you for your concerns and we hope to be working more with > you in the future. By the way, it looks like there's already a French translation at http://fedoraproject.org/fr/. Either way, we'd really appreciate any l10n work/suggestions/fixes on the website (or any other parts of Fedora). Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You can sign up on https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ This is not the error page it should show you, however. I've found the bug in some code we deployed on Friday and will get a fix committed shortly. Thanks for finding and reporting this! -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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directory: 'sn-Xorg.php' ***** Error reading new file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sn-legalnotice.php' From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Wed Apr 16 01:16:20 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:16:20 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/he/figs Fedora_Desktop.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804160116.m3G1GKE0032589@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/he/figs In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32525/he/figs Added Files: Fedora_Desktop.png Log Message: adding in a snapshot of f9 notes with current Hebrew translation and the RTL element changed in the CSS, to show how it looks in working on a resolution to bz #442642 From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Wed Apr 16 01:16:20 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:16:20 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/he/stylesheet-images 1.png, NONE, 1.1 10.png, NONE, 1.1 11.png, NONE, 1.1 12.png, NONE, 1.1 13.png, NONE, 1.1 14.png, NONE, 1.1 15.png, NONE, 1.1 2.png, NONE, 1.1 3.png, NONE, 1.1 4.png, NONE, 1.1 5.png, NONE, 1.1 6.png, NONE, 1.1 7.png, NONE, 1.1 8.png, NONE, 1.1 9.png, NONE, 1.1 caution.png, NONE, 1.1 important.png, NONE, 1.1 note.png, NONE, 1.1 tip.png, NONE, 1.1 titlepage.png, NONE, 1.1 warning.png, NONE, 1.1 Message-ID: <200804160116.m3G1GK0e032605@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/f9preview/he/stylesheet-images In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32525/he/stylesheet-images Added Files: 1.png 10.png 11.png 12.png 13.png 14.png 15.png 2.png 3.png 4.png 5.png 6.png 7.png 8.png 9.png caution.png important.png note.png tip.png titlepage.png warning.png Log Message: adding in a snapshot of f9 notes with current Hebrew translation and the RTL element changed in the CSS, to show how it looks in working on a resolution to bz #442642 From fedora-websites-list at redhat.com Wed Apr 16 01:17:40 2008 From: fedora-websites-list at redhat.com (Karsten Wade (kwade)) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:17:40 GMT Subject: web/html/docs/release-notes index.php,1.45,1.46 Message-ID: <200804160117.m3G1He2u000338@cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com> Author: kwade Update of /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32731 Modified Files: index.php Log Message: making Hebrew visible for testing/preview Index: index.php =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/fedora/web/html/docs/release-notes/index.php,v retrieving revision 1.45 retrieving revision 1.46 diff -u -r1.45 -r1.46 --- index.php 8 Apr 2008 00:45:29 -0000 1.45 +++ index.php 16 Apr 2008 01:17:10 -0000 1.46 @@ -47,6 +47,7 @@ fi | fr | gu | +he | hi_IN | hr | hu | From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 17 21:21:24 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:51:24 +0530 Subject: Reset the counter Message-ID: <4807BF54.2090304@fedoraproject.org> Hi http://fedoraproject.org/ Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 18 08:28:34 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:28:34 +0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <48085BB2.9040009@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Ricky Zhou wrote: >> How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter >> >> Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow >> choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do >> it). Here is the Polish translation for the counter: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pl.tar.gz And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26 to 23), here are the missing images: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 18 13:46:32 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:46:32 +0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4808A638.6080701@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Ricky Zhou wrote: >> How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter >> >> Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow >> choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do >> it). Here is the Polish translation for the counter: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pl.tar.gz And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26 to 23), here are the missing images: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 18 14:47:39 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:47:39 -0400 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <4808A638.6080701@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> <1206965062.3272.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F1EBD2.9090801@nicubunu.ro> <47F2058F.7030500@fedoraproject.org> <47F21B80.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <20080406190734.GD32030@Max> <47F925B8.3080900@fedoraproject.org> <20080406205519.GG32030@Max> <47FA4380.8040501@nicubunu.ro> <4808A638.6080701@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20080418144739.GA13835@Max> On 2008-04-18 04:46:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Here is the Polish translation for the counter: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pl.tar.gz > > And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26 > to 23), here are the missing images: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz Wow, you're fast :) I was just about to start researching how to manually generate some of them :) They're both added now and should show up soon. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1208537675.586.36.camel@ignacio.lan> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 06:23 +0530, Kedar Damle wrote: > Hey, > The counter for the days to go for the next Fedora release is cool but > don't you guys think it should say "releases in XX days" or maybe even > "release in XX days" instead of "released" ? I'm just saying. No, since it uses a shortened form of the future perfect tense of "release" (i.e., "will be released"). But thank you for your concern. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 16:58:14 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:58:14 -0400 Subject: The counter is nice but .. In-Reply-To: <1208537675.586.36.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1208537675.586.36.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <1208537894.586.37.camel@ignacio.lan> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 12:54 -0400, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 06:23 +0530, Kedar Damle wrote: > > Hey, > > The counter for the days to go for the next Fedora release is cool but > > don't you guys think it should say "releases in XX days" or maybe even > > "release in XX days" instead of "released" ? I'm just saying. > > No, since it uses a shortened form of the future perfect tense of > "release" (i.e., "will be released"). But thank you for your concern. Sorry, future continuous, not future perfect. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From jonstanley at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 06:05:23 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:05:23 -0400 Subject: Fix the beta links In-Reply-To: <48098917.4060302@fedoraproject.org> References: <48098917.4060302@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: They are assuredly gone from http://torrents.fedoraproject.org Not sure how many (if any) people consider that a canonical source of the torrents available. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora says beta on top and > > http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-prerelease points to beta links and people > are actively downloading them now. We need to remove the alpha/beta releases > from the torrrent and replace the beta links with preview release in the > website now. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > -- Jon Stanley Fedora Bug Wrangler jstanley at fedoraproject.org From george at torindul-designs.co.uk Sat Apr 19 09:23:57 2008 From: george at torindul-designs.co.uk (George Botley) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:23:57 +0100 Subject: Access Website FTP etc (I am a Fedora Web Developer) Message-ID: <20080419092357.551C4184E4A5@bmail00.one.com> Hello, My names George a web developer for fedora however i havn't been able to edit or change things for a while as i have misplaced the details to access files. Can any body assist me so i can get back to changing the website when needs be. Yours George -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For example: The link for: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-8-x86_64-DVD.iso Should also probably refer to: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/x86_64/iso/SHA1SUM Thanks. -- JB From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sat Apr 19 23:00:56 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:00:56 -0400 Subject: Missing checksum links In-Reply-To: <24002.1208643295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> References: <24002.1208643295@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080419230056.GA13566@Max> On 2008-04-19 06:14:55 PM, Josh Bressers wrote: > Someone just pointed out to me that this site: > http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora > > does not make it easy to find the checksums for the ISO images. There are > direct download links. It would probably make sense to also have a link to > the checksum files. We actually have a page at http://fedoraproject.org/verify with verification information. 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Sorry I send this email to you who's working with the website but I really didn't find a link or email to send this to the correct person; maybe you'll know better than me! I just downloaded the Fedora Core 9 Beta i386 DVD iso file. I decided to read the file README_BURNING_ISOS_en_US.txt and noticed it still referred to the Fedora 8 project. Now, as I mentioned I know this isn't your problem or maybe you can't fix this but since you know your ways around the website, maybe you'd know where to point me or forward this. Keep up the great work with the website; it's amazing. Thanks. Ra?l Col?n-Scarano, Puerto Rico From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Sun Apr 20 19:58:25 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:58:25 -0400 Subject: Maybe you could help me help them In-Reply-To: <7884462C-25F2-42D4-801F-3B5759779E3E@gmail.com> References: <7884462C-25F2-42D4-801F-3B5759779E3E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208721505.12299.3.camel@ignacio.lan> On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 22:15 -0400, Ra?l Col?n-Scarano wrote: > Hello. > > Sorry I send this email to you who's working with the website but I > really didn't find a link or email to send this to the correct person; > maybe you'll know better than me! I just downloaded the Fedora Core 9 > Beta i386 DVD iso file. I decided to read the file > README_BURNING_ISOS_en_US.txt and noticed it still referred to the > Fedora 8 project. Now, as I mentioned I know this isn't your problem > or maybe you can't fix this but since you know your ways around the > website, maybe you'd know where to point me or forward this. This should be logged in Red Hat's Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ under the Fedora Documentation product, readme-burning-isos component. > Keep up the great work with the website; it's amazing. Thanks from all of us on the Website team :) > Thanks. > Ra?l Col?n-Scarano, Puerto Rico -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd really love to help with server side programming where I can, but I also think I'll need some guidance. A mentor would be nice, but I guess the IRC channel will do just fine otherwise :). I'm a bit tired of arranging elements with CSS, so that wouldn't be very attractive for me and I'm also not very happy doing the webdesign job. I hope that's ok for starters. Now, when/how do I begin? Where do I go next? (I have to say I loved the well-documented steps until now). From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 17:21:08 2008 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:21:08 -0700 Subject: step 5 - send a self-introduction email In-Reply-To: <38290.86.123.200.16.1208721626.squirrel@lavabit.com> References: <38290.86.123.200.16.1208721626.squirrel@lavabit.com> Message-ID: <480CCD04.5020204@gmail.com> mapleoin at lavabit.com wrote: > Hello, > > I've been playing around with Linux for 3-4 years and have now decided to > be part of a team of contributors. So, I've been playing with the joining > fedora-websites process all day and I finally got to the introductory > step. > > I've already created a wiki account: IonuțArțăriși and > a FAS one: mapleoin. > > I'm primarily interested in developing my web programming skills. I've had > experience as a web developer(mainly as a hobby, but have also developed > two websites using django and rails). I think my HTML\CSS skills are good > and my python/ruby skills are those of a begginer. I'd really love to help > with server side programming where I can, but I also think I'll need some > guidance. A mentor would be nice, but I guess the IRC channel will do just > fine otherwise :). > I'm a bit tired of arranging elements with CSS, so that wouldn't be very > attractive for me and I'm also not very happy doing the webdesign job. > > I hope that's ok for starters. > > Now, when/how do I begin? Where do I go next? (I have to say I loved the > well-documented steps until now). > > Hi mapleoin! I see that you talked to ricky already on IRC. He's one of our main developers so it's definitely good that you connected. Luke Macken (lmacken), Matt Domsch (mdomsch), Yaakov Nemoy (loupgaroublond), John Palmieri (J5), and I (abadger1999) are some of the other developers. We're all available on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-admin and on the fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list. We'd be happy to have you join us! (More than happy, ecstatic!) If you want to stay away from the web design portion and work more on the server-side programming aspect, that's fine, a lot of our work starts off with a basic, functional interface and when it gets to be enough of an eyesore, we'll get someone to help redesign the look and feel. I have a number of tasks that you can jump into with greater and lesser degrees of independence. We'll be around to help on IRC whether you take on one of the independent tasks, or one that's part of another project. High value, independent project: * Write a new voting application in TurboGears. Our present voting application is just a cgi script that needs to be updated for every election. We'd like to be able to add new elections via the web, have a history view of past elections, and other enhancements. Just getting the basics into a TurboGears application would let us get rid of an aging code-base (fedora-accounts) that we don't want to support anymore. Part of a larger project: * I have a large number of outstanding features against the pkgdb that I'd like to see added. These range from redesigning the JSON API to adding UI to jump directly to packages. This could give you some ideas: https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/report/3 -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I decided to read the file > > README_BURNING_ISOS_en_US.txt and noticed it still referred to the > > Fedora 8 project. Now, as I mentioned I know this isn't your problem > > or maybe you can't fix this but since you know your ways around the > > website, maybe you'd know where to point me or forward this. > > This should be logged in Red Hat's Bugzilla at > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ under the Fedora Documentation product, > readme-burning-isos component. > > > Keep up the great work with the website; it's amazing. > > Thanks from all of us on the Website team :) Worth noting that this is already fixed in Rawhide and should be correct in the Fedora 9 final release. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some will be off during the duration of the time for safety / data protection. Some systems we'll be moving to alternate sites. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Apr 24 03:53:56 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:53:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Countdown timer Message-ID: Have we tested what happens to the countdown timer when we do release? Are we going to manually change the banner or does it happen on its own? -Mike From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 04:00:54 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:00:54 -0400 Subject: Countdown timer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1209009654.7368.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 22:53 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > Have we tested what happens to the countdown timer when we do release? > Are we going to manually change the banner or does it happen on its own? I turned the time back to see, and I get text that says "Fedora 9 is here!" but no graphical banner. Mike believes that the graphic is replaced when we have confirmed the final release is actually out on the wires. Until then, maybe a placeholder? ("Hold on, F9 is coming...") I'm just thinking about people who have put banners on their sites according to our instructions and what *their* visitors see. It sounds like the answer is "nothing bad," which is a satisfactory answer! :-)s -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 24 04:46:20 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:46:20 -0400 Subject: Countdown timer In-Reply-To: <1209009654.7368.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1209009654.7368.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080424044620.GC6998@Max> On 2008-04-24 12:00:54 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 22:53 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > Have we tested what happens to the countdown timer when we do release? > > Are we going to manually change the banner or does it happen on its own? > > I turned the time back to see, and I get text that says "Fedora 9 is > here!" but no graphical banner. Mike believes that the graphic is > replaced when we have confirmed the final release is actually out on the > wires. Until then, maybe a placeholder? ("Hold on, F9 is coming...") > > I'm just thinking about people who have put banners on their sites > according to our instructions and what *their* visitors see. It sounds > like the answer is "nothing bad," which is a satisfactory answer! :-)s It looks like we still need to make a final banner :). Nicu - do you think we could make something that has a minimal impact on l10n? 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Frields wrote: >> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 22:53 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: >>> Have we tested what happens to the countdown timer when we do release? >>> Are we going to manually change the banner or does it happen on its own? >> I turned the time back to see, and I get text that says "Fedora 9 is >> here!" but no graphical banner. Mike believes that the graphic is >> replaced when we have confirmed the final release is actually out on the >> wires. Until then, maybe a placeholder? ("Hold on, F9 is coming...") On *some* of the locales I did a "0" image. While is still suboptimal (o days remaining???), it was a temporary fall-back. >> I'm just thinking about people who have put banners on their sites >> according to our instructions and what *their* visitors see. It sounds >> like the answer is "nothing bad," which is a satisfactory answer! :-)s > It looks like we still need to make a final banner :). > > Nicu - do you think we could make something that has a minimal impact on > l10n? Perhaps we could pull a string for "Get Fedora" straight out of > the PO files (I have a list of the translations for "Get Fedora" at > http://ricky.fedorapeople.org/get-fedora.translations)? Yup, I can do that quickly, or we can have something saying only "Fedora 9", as the attached image (as you can see, it also changed the look by dropping the crystals, to fit the final desktop theme). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And also a version with indexed colors - the file size is less than half (10KB vs. 25 KB) and the drop in quality barely noticeable. If you think this is good enough and will be used I will update the wiki page too - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fedora9.png Type: image/png Size: 26008 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fedora9_indexed.png Type: image/png Size: 10985 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 14:21:12 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:21:12 -0400 Subject: Patch for join box Message-ID: <1209133272.3937.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Attached is a patch that adds a pretty "Get an account" message on our fp.o/join-fedora page. We want to make sure people can jump right to the good stuff if possible. This URL will be a landing point for anyone who gets a physical CD/DVD, because the "join.fedoraproject.org" URL is printed on their sleeves. The patch is deceptively large because the insertion changes a lot of line numbers in the PO files; sorry. :-) I await your review and comments, O webmasters! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe just a *very* quick explanation of what Fedora is (even shorter than the one on the index page now) and then get, join, etc. -- ian From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 25 20:28:51 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:28:51 -0400 Subject: Patch for join box In-Reply-To: <1209133272.3937.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1209133272.3937.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080425202851.GA10731@Max> On 2008-04-25 10:21:12 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Attached is a patch that adds a pretty "Get an account" message on our > fp.o/join-fedora page. We want to make sure people can jump right to > the good stuff if possible. This URL will be a landing point for anyone > who gets a physical CD/DVD, because the "join.fedoraproject.org" URL is > printed on their sleeves. The patch is deceptively large because the > insertion changes a lot of line numbers in the PO files; sorry. :-) > > I await your review and comments, O webmasters! Cool, that looks really nice - it's been applied to the master branch, and should show up along with all of the other F9 updates (you can see it now at http://publictest10.fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora). Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From richard-harrison at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 20:35:25 2008 From: richard-harrison at comcast.net (richard-harrison at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:35:25 +0000 Subject: Simple website Message-ID: <042520082035.25095.4812408D0007C15C00006207221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> > http://www.opensuse.org/ +1...VERY elegant. From pribyl at lowlevel.cz Fri Apr 25 21:04:24 2008 From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:04:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <042520082035.25095.4812408D0007C15C00006207221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> References: <042520082035.25095.4812408D0007C15C00006207221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, richard-harrison at comcast.net wrote: >> http://www.opensuse.org/ > +1...VERY elegant. Yes it is, but it feels bit like a desert - it lacks the message "Yes here is something happening.". Thats what news with headlines does. And who cares about project hidden behind the barrier of nice wallpaper. So yes, it is graficaly nice, but definitely does not give a first impression of live project. Adam Pribyl From richard-harrison at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 21:24:41 2008 From: richard-harrison at comcast.net (richard-harrison at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:24:41 +0000 Subject: Simple website Message-ID: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> > >> http://www.opensuse.org/ > > +1...VERY elegant. > > Yes it is, but it feels bit like a desert - it lacks the message "Yes here > is something happening.". Thats what news with headlines does. And who > cares about project hidden behind the barrier of nice wallpaper. So yes, > it is graficaly nice, but definitely does not give a first impression of > live project. Without clutter and with zero learning curve, it provides a very obvious entry into each of the three main funnels with respect to potential visitor interest. This is of paramount importance to the "unwashed masses" whom we hope to seduce away from "The Dark Side." The more geekly among us will not be put off, and our lesser brethren should not be frightened off by too much "richness" of options and news. The OSuse front page is targeted at the first timer with the intent of inducing download (first option for those of us of the left-to-right persuasion), not those interested in a worldwide project to overthrow the domination of "The Evil Empire." I think they (and Mike) got it right. From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 25 22:02:21 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:02:21 -0400 Subject: Wiki Miration Meeting Log - 2008-04-25 Message-ID: <20080425220221.GB5997@Max> 17:04 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: WikiMigration Meeting -- init (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WikiMigration) 17:04 < mmcgrath> Who's here? 17:04 * jds2001 here 17:04 * ricky 17:04 * ianweller 17:04 * couf 17:04 * ianweller will be gone in 5-10 minutes though and back 15 minutes after that. 17:04 < mmcgrath> ianweller: solid 17:04 < mmcgrath> spevack: ping 17:04 < mmcgrath> poelcat: ping 17:04 < ricky> poelcat, jwb: ping 17:04 < mmcgrath> fabian_a: ping 17:05 < ricky> quaid too, I guess 17:05 < jwb> hi ricky 17:05 < mmcgrath> yeah, jwb! 17:05 < mmcgrath> quaid: ping 17:05 < jwb> oh, meeting 17:05 < jwb> yeah i'm here 17:05 < ivazquez> Pong. 17:05 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: ping! 17:05 < mmcgrath> heh 17:05 -!- fab_away [n=bellet at bellet.info] has quit No route to host 17:05 < ricky> :( 17:05 < mmcgrath> Ok, so lets get started. 17:05 < fabian_a> mmcgrath: pong 17:05 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Two week round up 17:05 < ricky> Oh, fabian_a != fab_away :) 17:06 < mmcgrath> So not a whole lot of visible progress has gone on over the last two weeks. I know ianweller has been working on getting images uploaded. 17:06 * poelcat here 17:06 * ianweller notes that he should start doing that 17:06 < mmcgrath> I was gone last week in training. 17:06 < ianweller> i'm working on a new main page 17:06 < mmcgrath> This week though I got smooge's rpm all setup in our infrastructure repo and it is now being used for the smolts.org/wiki/ 17:06 < mmcgrath> So deployment of the fedoraproject.org/wiki/ should be pretty trivial. 17:06 < ianweller> mmcgrath: did you get the api.php thing figured out? 17:07 < mmcgrath> the only hangup was the api.php. 17:07 < mmcgrath> ianweller: I didn't yet, been a straing day. 17:07 -!- fraggle_ [n=fraggle at 2a01:e35:2ef8:fc70:20c:6eff:fed6:27c8] has quit No route to host 17:07 < ricky> ianweller: How's the OpenID plugin packaging been going? 17:07 < mmcgrath> but we'll get that figured out. 17:07 * ianweller looks 17:07 * ricky notes that basic OpenID support (through samadhi) is ready for the next FAS releas. 17:07 < ricky> **release 17:07 < ianweller> i think athimm is still monopolizing that 17:07 < mmcgrath> :( 17:07 < ianweller> i packaged HNP/StubManager fyi 17:08 < mmcgrath> ianweller: excellent! 17:08 < ianweller> i need to steal that from him though, i guess 17:08 * mmcgrath is currently deploying those via puppet... yuck. 17:08 -!- stickster_afk [n=npfrield at fedora/stickster] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 17:08 < ianweller> someone lemee know when mediawiki is in EPEL so i can put HNP/StubManager in EPEL too 17:08 < ianweller> or is it already, i haven't looked 17:08 < mmcgrath> ianweller: will do, I'll ping smooge about that soon. 17:08 < mmcgrath> .any smooge 17:08 < zodbot> mmcgrath: smooge was last seen in #fedora-meeting 16 minutes and 37 seconds ago: *** smooge has quit IRC ("-ENOCAFFEINE") 17:08 < mmcgrath> once he gets better. 17:09 < ianweller> kthx 17:09 < mmcgrath> So thats whats going on. We're a little behind schedule, but with the release slip thats not a bad thing. 17:09 < mmcgrath> not as bad as it could be. 17:09 < ianweller> i've gotta head out in 2 minutes 17:09 < mmcgrath> ianweller: k. 17:09 < mmcgrath> So thats the only progress from this week, next I'll move on to the issues section again. 17:09 * jwb is slightly confused 17:10 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Migration issues 17:10 < mmcgrath> jwb: sure thing, whats up? 17:10 < jwb> mmcgrath, keep going. i just had no idea what the above conversation was about :) 17:10 < mmcgrath> jwb: ahh, no worries, we'll catch you up. 17:10 < jwb> ok 17:10 < mmcgrath> the above conversation was sort of multipart. 17:10 < mmcgrath> 1) the new wiki uses OpenID for authentication. 17:10 < mmcgrath> 2) mediawiki isn't in EPEL yet so we stuck it in our http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/ repo 17:11 < mmcgrath> 3) FAS2's next release will be OpenID ready. 17:11 < mmcgrath> and 4) some plugins we're using got packaged by ianweller (woot) 17:11 -!- fraggle_ [n=fraggle at bea13-2-82-239-143-199.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 17:11 < jwb> ok 17:11 < ianweller> that'llj ust be username entry, not some crazy long url, right? 17:11 < mmcgrath> jwb: so thats basically what that was all about. 17:11 < jwb> all sounds cool 17:11 < ianweller> for openid 17:11 < ricky> Is the publictest1 test mediawiki setup close to what we're going to use? 17:11 < mmcgrath> ianweller: not sure, I've not seen how its implemented in both FAS2 or mediawiki yet :) 17:11 < ricky> (being fc6 and everything) 17:11 < mmcgrath> ricky: actually no, its 2 minor versions behind. 17:12 < mmcgrath> I'm going to get that upgraded soon. 17:12 < ianweller> mmcgrath: openid revolves around URLs if i remember correctly so we would have to patch the plugin if we wanted just username entry. 17:12 < ricky> Ah, OK - I'd like to have a test instance to play around with openid integration. 17:12 < ianweller> we need to put talking to athimm about the mediawiki-openid stuff on the agenda 17:12 < mmcgrath> ianweller: yeah we'll have to get those bits together and let ricky tinker. 17:12 < mmcgrath> 17:12 < ianweller> with that, i've gotta head out, should be back in 10-15 17:12 < mmcgrath> ianweller: solid, thanks for making it this far! 17:12 < ricky> I'd probably vote for keeping the URL (to make it clear that it's an OpenID that can be used anywhere) 17:13 < ricky> But that's probably something to think about later :) 17:13 < mmcgrath> ricky: I'd almost agree, though I'd like to see it in action. 17:13 < mmcgrath> yeah. 17:13 < mmcgrath> we can get to that when we start implementing. 17:13 < jds2001> is there an easy way to restrict it to just the FAS provider? 17:13 < mmcgrath> Ok, so last time we talked about the whole wikiname vs username vs /wiki/MikeMcGrath vs /wiki/User:mmcgrath. 17:14 < mmcgrath> jds2001: yeah, we have to add providers one by one. for the initial rollout openid will basically just be a single sign on for us. 17:14 < ricky> jds2001: Yup. 17:14 < mmcgrath> jwb: one big difference between mediawiki and moin will be that WikiName is going away. 17:14 < mmcgrath> last time we decided to email people and make this a more manual process because there's no good way of automating it. 17:15 < mmcgrath> jwb: so let your guys know that after the new wiki comes up, they'll be logging in with just their fas username (like mmcgrath) and that they'll have to move their personal page from /wiki/WikiName to /wiki/User:username 17:15 < jwb> mmcgrath, will do 17:15 < mmcgrath> ok, next item on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WikiMigration is OpenID and we just talked about that. 17:16 < mmcgrath> Next item is the migration script. 17:16 < mmcgrath> so right now whats at https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMain is what we got with the script. 17:16 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: have you made any changes to it recently? 17:16 < ivazquez> I have not. 17:16 < mmcgrath> k 17:17 < mmcgrath> so I'm going to keep working on that, possibly with ivazquez if he's interested ;-) 17:17 < mmcgrath> I don't think there's a whole lot more to do. but there is some. 17:17 < mmcgrath> next item was docbook for the docs team. 17:18 < jwb> question: 17:18 < jwb> when is the rollout targeted for agian? 17:18 < mmcgrath> jwb: we don't have a defined date yet, it deps on the release. It was going to be in early May but now its likely going to be in late May. 17:18 < jwb> release of what? 17:18 < mmcgrath> F9. 17:18 < jwb> why? 17:19 < mmcgrath> we didn't want to go changing it before since its in the critical path (people use it for a ton of workflow) 17:19 < jwb> ok, makes sense 17:19 < mmcgrath> Plus things are real calm right after the release usually so it seemed a good time. 17:19 < mmcgrath> Oh, so the docbook stuff. I've been working with a perl script and running it by the docs guys. So far I think they've been liking it. 17:20 < mmcgrath> Unlike their last script which is built in to moin, this script is external. 17:20 < mmcgrath> Which allows us to make changes to it alone without having to worry about integrating it into the wiki or upstream. 17:20 < mmcgrath> the next problem area is attachments. 17:21 < mmcgrath> I took a look at opensuse's wiki today and even talked with one of their admins and it looks like they'll be doing it in the same way we are. 17:21 < mmcgrath> the problem is that migrating the attachments is going to be basically impossible to do and have it still be useful afterwards I think. 17:21 < mmcgrath> That leaves a lot of attachments that need to be re-uploaded. And I'll be happy to work with teams individually if they can give me a list of attachments they want to go up. 17:22 < mmcgrath> but the bottom line is the way mediawiki and moin do attachments is very very different. 17:22 < mmcgrath> I think ianweller had some interesting comments on this area, I'll wait till he gets back to talk about that. 17:22 < mmcgrath> jwb: does FESCo use attachments for anything? 17:22 -!- mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom at cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has quit "Leaving" 17:23 < jwb> mmcgrath, i don't recall us using attachments, but we do inheritance of sections from other pages 17:23 < mmcgrath> 17:24 < mmcgrath> k, that stuff may require some cleanup after the migration. If you get a moment browse through your pages under https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ and see if anything looks horribly wrong 17:24 -!- rahul_b [n=rbhalera at 123.201.200.90] has quit Remote closed the connection 17:24 < jwb> will do 17:24 < mmcgrath> Next item is the acl system. I've still got some work to do on that area. Its up, it works (sort of) I've been waiting to do much else on that until OpenID is working so I can make sure the two work together. 17:25 < mmcgrath> So thats the jist of it. 17:25 < mmcgrath> What do you guys have questions about for me? Have you all had a chance to go over your section of the wiki? 17:25 < mmcgrath> how's it look? 17:25 * jds2001 will do that this weekend 17:25 < ivazquez> Some of my stuff doesn't look quite right. 17:26 < jwb> heh... i don't see anything at all on the FESCo page 17:26 < mmcgrath> jwb: its empty? 17:26 < mmcgrath> so for stuff that you can identify thats wrong (and wrong in multiple places) add https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/315 17:26 < jwb> hang on, i want to make sure i have the right page 17:27 < mmcgrath> jwb: I think you want - https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee 17:27 < ivazquez> I think 315 is the wrong one. 17:27 < mmcgrath> I still don't have redirects working in the migration script 17:27 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: sorry 17:27 < mmcgrath> .ticket 31 17:27 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #31 (New Wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/31 17:27 < mmcgrath> that one. 17:28 -!- jgraham_ [n=jgraham at nat/redhat/x-b2738e0a835a1751] has quit "Ex-Chat" 17:29 < mmcgrath> grr, I see Development/SteeringCommittee has some links that didn't convert right. 17:29 < ivazquez> BRs didn't convert properly. 17:29 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: as in "
    " ? 17:29 < jwb> mmcgrath, i do thanks 17:29 < couf> Anchors() either 17:30 < ivazquez> [[BR]] in moin, but yes. 17:30 < mmcgrath> ahh, k. 17:30 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: add that to the ticket if its not there already. 17:30 < jwb> mmcgrath, the schedule page looks ood 17:30 < jwb> er, odd 17:30 < ivazquez> Yup. Just looking through a few others... 17:30 < mmcgrath> jwb: add the link to https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/31 17:30 < mmcgrath> couf: add Anchors() to https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/31 17:30 < mmcgrath> :-P 17:30 < mmcgrath> y'all get the idea. 17:31 < mmcgrath> There's going to be stuff that we can fix everywhere. but its likely every team will have to make a few changes to the wiki. 17:31 < jwb> mmcgrath, do you want me to fix the page? 17:31 < jwb> mmcgrath, or should an import script be doing that all? 17:31 < mmcgrath> jwb: hmm, naw. add it to the page. 17:31 < mmcgrath> err add it to the ticket. 17:31 < jwb> ok 17:32 < couf> mmcgrath: ah one more thing, I started a discusion on fedora-trans-list to see how L10N wants to do wiki translations from now on 17:32 < ianweller> hi 17:32 < jwb> i gotta head out, but i'll do that this evening 17:32 < mmcgrath> its possible that page is doing something unique and just needs a manual tweak. But its more likely that whatever is making that page look wrong, is causing other pages to look wrong too. 17:32 < mmcgrath> jwb: thanks. 17:32 < jwb> np 17:32 < couf> it still needs to converge to something, but it'll get there 17:32 < mmcgrath> couf: yeah, I talked to the suse guys about that... one sec. 17:32 -!- jwb is now known as jwb_gone 17:32 < mmcgrath> couf: so if you go here - http://www.opensuse.org/ 17:32 < mmcgrath> see the middle link? 17:33 < couf> yeah, went there this afternoon 17:33 < mmcgrath> couf: so yeah, we'll probably try to do something like that. It won't be available from the initial release. 17:33 < mmcgrath> but hopefully not too long after that. 17:33 * ricky is very impressed by their l10n. 17:33 < mmcgrath> we basically have to get one wiki for each language. 17:34 < mmcgrath> and, AFAIK, thats the way its done. wikipedia does it that same way. 17:34 < couf> heh, even better :-) 17:34 < couf> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-April/msg00160.html btw 17:35 < mmcgrath> cool 17:35 < mmcgrath> poelcat: have you had a chance to look at the sections of the wiki you use? How do they look? 17:36 < ianweller> mmcgrath: i'm checking artwork now 17:36 < mmcgrath> ianweller: yeah let me know about that. We'd talked a bit about attachments and stuff. 17:36 < mmcgrath> what are we going to do with art's attachments? 17:36 * couf got to run, sorry folks 17:37 < poelcat> mmcgrath: i looked a while back... i'm assuming most of the stuff that doesn't convert right I can just fix 17:37 < poelcat> and it isn't that much I don't think 17:37 < mmcgrath> poelcat: k 17:37 < mmcgrath> couf: later! 17:37 < poelcat> a few pages w/ attachments, but I'll just redo those 17:37 < ricky> Before we actually run the migration script, I'm wondering what kind of moin cleanup we can start doing to make it easier. 17:37 < ianweller> i think for attachments, we should just upload images with the filenames as is, for duplicates check them with a hash, and if the hash differs rename it slightly 17:38 < ricky> (Whether it's deleting old pages or centralizing on one type of markup, or whatever) 17:38 < ianweller> ricky: that seems like a very good idea 17:38 -!- couf [n=bart at fedora/couf] has quit "leaving" 17:38 < ricky> Renaming wiki attachments? :) 17:38 < mmcgrath> ianweller: give me a page with a bunch of attachments on it (an art one) and how you'd suggest we upload them? 17:39 < ianweller> another way to do attachments would be something along the lines of [page name]_[attachment name] 17:39 * mmcgrath just wants to walk through how it'd work. 17:39 < ianweller> i'm not exactly sure. i would highly recommend that the attachments are uploaded through the upload interface somehow, so that nothing breaks massively 17:40 < mmcgrath> k, I'll try to spend some more time on that then. 17:40 < poelcat> mmcgrath: what about concept of 'categories' 17:40 < ianweller> maybe the api has something for that 17:40 -!- jeff_hann [n=arares at 89.40.98.185] has joined #fedora-meeting 17:40 < poelcat> mmcgrath: how do they carry over? 17:41 < mmcgrath> ianweller: can speak to that better then I can. I know mediawiki has them. 17:41 < poelcat> i notice the BugZapper pages carry the category at the bottom of the page, but it no longer links 17:41 < mmcgrath> ianweller: talk about categories a bit. 17:41 < mmcgrath> poelcat: please add categories to - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/31 if you get a moment 17:42 -!- nim-nim [n=nim-nim at fedora/nim-nim] has quit Remote closed the connection 17:43 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: ? 17:43 < mmcgrath> err ianweller 17:43 < mmcgrath> ianweller: ? 17:44 < mmcgrath> poelcat: well, they have them and I'll try to get that all migrated as well. 17:45 < mmcgrath> So does anyone have anything else they'd like to talk about? 17:45 < poelcat> mmcgrath: for pages that don't look that good what is the type of stuff that you can fix 17:45 < poelcat> vs. stuff we need to manually fix 17:46 < mmcgrath> poelcat: I've kind of been taking it a page at a time when its reported. I'll take a look and make an educated guess if what I see is something weird, or something I suspect would be everywhere. 17:46 < poelcat> the most obvious stuff i see is font sizing and admonitions that don't carry over 17:46 < ivazquez> Right now the script does a brute force search-and-replace. Anything that needs state can't be fixed. 17:47 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: "needs state" ? 17:47 < ianweller> hi 17:47 < ivazquez> Like problems that only occur in a block. 17:47 < ianweller> oh yeah mediawiki definitely has categories 17:47 < ivazquez> If we can't solve it when the block is opened or closed then it can't be fixed automatically. 17:47 < ianweller> bascially you put [[Category:Cat name]] at the bottom of a page, or actually, wherever 17:47 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: yeah, my python-fu has been a bit weak with that stuff. 17:48 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: do you have any interest / time to work on stuff like that? 17:48 < ianweller> going to /wiki/Category:Cat_name would show all the pages in that category. you can also add a description 17:48 < ivazquez> That whole script needs to be rewritten into a state machine, but I'm not sure that the effort is worth it. 17:48 < ianweller> mmcgrath: that's how categories work 17:48 < ricky> Hmm. 17:48 < mmcgrath> ianweller: how do you put a page into a category? 17:48 < ianweller> 16:47:53 < ianweller> bascially you put [[Category:Cat name]] at the bottom of a page, or actually, wherever 17:48 < mmcgrath> and to categories need to be created? 17:48 < ianweller> no they're created automatically 17:48 < mmcgrath> oh oh. 17:48 < mmcgrath> k 17:48 < ricky> If somebody can write a moin -> docbook convertor, how hard would a moin -> mediawiki syntax one be? 17:49 < mmcgrath> ricky: the moin -> docbook converter was very basic. 17:49 < ianweller> i don't think the docbook converter accounted for nearly everything 17:49 < ianweller> mmcgrath: how are we currently doing html blocks 17:49 < mmcgrath> and the moin -> mediawiki is doable, just needs more eyes and stuff on it. 17:49 < ianweller> they seem to not be working. 17:49 < ricky> Ohh, so it worked for subset of moin syntax that docs used? 17:49 < mmcgrath> ianweller: how are we converting them? 17:49 < ianweller> yeah 17:49 < ianweller> are we? 17:50 < mmcgrath> right now I'm not touching it. There's actually a bug open to not allow html in the future. It just never got done on Moin. 17:50 < mmcgrath> there's a security issue there. 17:50 < ianweller> ok good point 17:50 < mmcgrath> ricky: can you verify that mediawiki also suffers from that cross site script issue? 17:50 * mmcgrath assumes it does. 17:50 < ianweller> i notice that mostly html is just for headers and such. should we create some sort of template for a standardized project page header 17:50 < ricky> mmcgrath: Don't think it does. 17:50 < ricky> (At least not by default) 17:51 < ianweller> heh. you *can* make it vulnerable, but we don't enable it by default 17:51 < ianweller> :D 17:51 < mmcgrath> heh 17:51 < ianweller> it's like linux file permissions 17:51 < ricky> Moin didn't either, until we added a parser for raw HTML 17:51 < ianweller> anywho. i would vote for not enabling raw html at all 17:51 < ianweller> MW has built in support for div tags and whatnot, for styling 17:52 < mmcgrath> ianweller: I'll want to talk to you about some of that support. Currently the script doesn't support it. mostly because I'm not sure what the MW markup looks like for it. 17:52 < ianweller> it's completely and utterly different for nearly every case. it makes me want to explode 17:52 < ianweller> no actually there is a system, it's just silly 17:52 * ianweller finds the help page for it 17:53 < mmcgrath> ianweller: not now, but sometime next week we'll go over that stuff. 17:53 < ianweller> i just don't particularly like doing tables 17:53 < mmcgrath> We're almost out of time (only about 10 minutes left) 17:53 < ianweller> oh ok 17:53 < mmcgrath> ianweller: I'm with you there. Some people seem to insist though :) 17:53 < mmcgrath> so anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 17:53 < ianweller> let's press fast forward on the agenda then 17:54 < mmcgrath> I think we're done with whats on the wiki page anyway. 17:54 < mmcgrath> anyone have other concerns / questions? 17:54 < ianweller> well i think all that's left is whatever you guys need to do on the infrastructure end, wrangling mediawiki-openid and related out of athimm's hands, and fixing all the syntax 17:55 < ianweller> about a month before we switch over the wiki we should ask *everybody* to check wiki pages they think are important, and if they don't look good on mediawiki, they need to be changed on moin 17:55 < poelcat> mmcgrath: for pages that need fixing... do we ad them to the main ticket, file a new ticket ? 17:55 < mmcgrath> poelcat: just add them to that ticket. 17:55 < ianweller> ticket 31, right? 17:55 < mmcgrath> ianweller: yeah, I really want everyone to know what the wiki will look like well before we do the actual conversion. 17:55 < ianweller> oh and i added a post-migration ticket (somewhere) 17:56 < ianweller> .ticket 511 17:56 < mmcgrath> 17:56 < zodbot> ianweller: #511 (Post-import wiki to-do list) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/511 17:56 -!- nim-nim [n=nim-nim at fedora/nim-nim] has joined #fedora-meeting 17:56 < mmcgrath> ianweller: thats for stuff that needs to be done after we migrate right? 17:56 < ianweller> yes 17:57 < ianweller> pre-migration or during migration would still be ticket 31, i guess 17:57 < mmcgrath> 17:57 < mmcgrath> worksforme. 17:57 < mmcgrath> Ok, so we've only got a minute or two left. Is there anything else we'd like to discuss? 17:57 < ianweller> everything else i wanna discuss we can do outside the meeting 17:57 < ianweller> maybe in #fedora-websites 17:57 < mmcgrath> 17:58 < ianweller> alright i'd call it good. i don't see anything else 17:58 < mmcgrath> Cool, if no one has anything else I'll close the meeting in 30. 17:59 < ianweller> is someone gonna get a log of this and post it to the list? 18:00 < mmcgrath> ricky: mind doing the honors? 18:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So yes, >> it is graficaly nice, but definitely does not give a first impression of >> live project. > Without clutter and with zero learning curve, it provides a very obvious entry into each of the three main funnels with respect to potential visitor interest. This is of paramount importance to the "unwashed masses" whom we hope to seduce away from "The Dark Side." The more geekly among us will not be put off, and our lesser brethren should not be frightened off by too much "richness" of options and news. The OSuse front page is targeted at the first timer with the intent of inducing download (first option for those of us of the left-to-right persuasion), not those interested in a worldwide project to overthrow the domination of "The Evil Empire." I think they (and Mike) got it right. > Eh, it looks like the laptop.org home page which has always felt lacking to me. Not to say that we don't have too much on our front page, just that too little can be just as bad. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From juankprada at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 23:36:22 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:36:22 -0500 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1209166582.2959.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > richard-harrison at comcast.net wrote: > >>>> http://www.opensuse.org/ > >>> +1...VERY elegant. > >> Yes it is, but it feels bit like a desert - it lacks the message "Yes here > >> is something happening.". Thats what news with headlines does. And who > >> cares about project hidden behind the barrier of nice wallpaper. So yes, > >> it is graficaly nice, but definitely does not give a first impression of > >> live project. > > Without clutter and with zero learning curve, it provides a very obvious entry into each of the three main funnels with respect to potential visitor interest. This is of paramount importance to the "unwashed masses" whom we hope to seduce away from "The Dark Side." The more geekly among us will not be put off, and our lesser brethren should not be frightened off by too much "richness" of options and news. The OSuse front page is targeted at the first timer with the intent of inducing download (first option for those of us of the left-to-right persuasion), not those interested in a worldwide project to overthrow the domination of "The Evil Empire." I think they (and Mike) got it right. > > > Eh, it looks like the laptop.org home page which has always felt lacking > to me. Not to say that we don't have too much on our front page, just > that too little can be just as bad. An interface that's too cluttered > is hard to navigate but an interface that has too little doesn't give > you enough clues on how to navigate and worse, no reason to want to > navigate it. > > -Toshio > i totally agree!! we cannot compare two different projects and two different websites that aim at two different points. Obviously opensuse.org aims to let people know about the tools the have build (Build Services) and of course the wiki. The thing is, their wiki is so well organized that it feels good to navigate in and also their wiki is their replacement for our fp.o If we had a wiki so well designed with an interactive and intuitive interface such as opensuse's wiki, we could discard having fp.o as the wiki would do just a better job. But so far nor the wiki and definitely not the fp.o site are helping on filling the gap between new users/contributors and the project. Also im getting tired of this discussion as it seems its not going anywhere, as people that think the website should be just the Fedora logo aren't changing their minds, and people like me who thinks information is a better way to reach to potential contributors aren't changing our minds either. So instead of wasting time discussing this, i suggest we name a group that will decide how things should look in the website. I know thats the idea of having a websites group, but as people is getting in this group, the group keeps getting bigger and its hard to progress if we take into a count every ones ideas and just for a couple of people who disagree about something we don't take any actions. So i suggest making a small group who will be in charge of this aspect of the websites team and decide what to do, also a poll or something similar would do the job, but we definitely need some leadership here. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Apr 26 01:21:11 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:51:11 +0530 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48128387.5000502@fedoraproject.org> Mike McGrath wrote: > I know we've had this discussion in the past but I thought I'd throw this > site out for thought. > > http://www.opensuse.org/ http://laptop.org/ http://www.gnome.org/~gman/opensolaris-new/index.html Sounds the same design is being copied over everywhere. We should atleast do something unique. Rahul From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sat Apr 26 01:19:31 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:19:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209166582.2959.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209166582.2959.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > i totally agree!! > we cannot compare two different projects and two different websites that > aim at two different points. Obviously opensuse.org aims to let people > know about the tools the have build (Build Services) and of course the > wiki. The thing is, their wiki is so well organized that it feels good > to navigate in and also their wiki is their replacement for our fp.o > If we had a wiki so well designed with an interactive and intuitive > interface such as opensuse's wiki, we could discard having fp.o as the > wiki would do just a better job. But so far nor the wiki and definitely > not the fp.o site are helping on filling the gap between new > users/contributors and the project. > I talked to the opensuse guys, similar to our wiki anyone with an account has access to edit the wiki. So the question is, what do they do different or is it just they have a younger wiki? > Also im getting tired of this discussion as it seems its not going > anywhere, as people that think the website should be just the Fedora > logo aren't changing their minds, and people like me who thinks > information is a better way to reach to potential contributors aren't > changing our minds either. So instead of wasting time discussing this, i > suggest we name a group that will decide how things should look in the > website. Actually I think this has been useful. We've kept a few things off the wiki, toshio's right. Balance is important. But as long as we keep in mind that too much is nasty then I feel at least some good comes from discussing it. > > I know thats the idea of having a websites group, but as people is > getting in this group, the group keeps getting bigger and its hard to > progress if we take into a count every ones ideas and just for a couple > of people who disagree about something we don't take any actions. So i > suggest making a small group who will be in charge of this aspect of the > websites team and decide what to do, also a poll or something similar > would do the job, but we definitely need some leadership here. > The group is getting bigger but still, unfortunately, very few leaders have come out of it. Ricky and ignacio immediately come to mind but of the people on this list, how many of you have commited or created and proposed a patch to the website in the last year? -Mike From kwade at redhat.com Sat Apr 26 04:09:08 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:09:08 -0700 Subject: questions from wiki migration mtg Message-ID: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> Sorry I couldn't attend today. Here's some stuff I dug from the IRC log: * UserName => User:username ... ouch - anything we can do with mod_rewrite? - some of these pages are well indexed and referenced - any reason we cannot migrate all the wiki/UserName to an equivalent wiki/UserName and let people source that to fill out their User:username page. - I understand that User:foobar has special meaning in MediaWiki and agree it is worth the hassle for those who want the functionality; do we have to force the feature on them and break their URLs? * How does l10n work with multiple wikis and propagating information from a canonical wiki (en_US?) or across? - Manual? - Automagic? * Ricky's question about centralizing on a specific type of markup. Since Docs worked with Mike on the script, following the Doc's markup is probably the best path to clean markup conversion: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/WorkFlow#Wiki_to_DocBook_XML ^-- step 2 has a list of specific anchors in WikiEditing and other pages These are the specific ways we use the Moin syntax. It's not as much a subset but a noble consistency that gives us the best chance of fast search and replaces on the DocBook side. In other words, when we get ''foo'' => foo, we know that it's one of just a few DocBook tags, then can do iterations of manual search-n-replace on each file. * On HTML: < ianweller> i notice that mostly html is just for headers and such. should we create some sort of template for a standardized project page header For any of those in the Docs.* namespace, those are a workaround for the DocBook converter in Moin. Let's convert those in the script that are in the Docs.* namespace into the equivalent

    foo

    => == foo ==. (Added to ticket 31.) For HTML of IRC logs, maybe convert them to attachments and create a contents page? (Added to ticket 31.) thx - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sat Apr 26 15:56:09 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:56:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: questions from wiki migration mtg In-Reply-To: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > Sorry I couldn't attend today. Here's some stuff I dug from the IRC > log: > > * UserName => User:username ... ouch > - anything we can do with mod_rewrite? > - some of these pages are well indexed and referenced > - any reason we cannot migrate all the wiki/UserName to an equivalent > wiki/UserName and let people source that to fill out their User:username > page. Nothing exists that maps wikiname to username. wikiname was a poor choice and now we're paying for it :-/ > - I understand that User:foobar has special meaning in MediaWiki and > agree it is worth the hassle for those who want the functionality; do we > have to force the feature on them and break their URLs? > They can do it on their own time. This is something that I suspect will just be a mess forever. Some using User: some leaving it at their old /wiki/WikiName. > * How does l10n work with multiple wikis and propagating information > from a canonical wiki (en_US?) or across? > - Manual? > - Automagic? We'll have to see how others are doing it. Both OpenSuse and wikipedia use mediawiki to accomplish this. It won't be part of the initial rollout but hopefully will exist in the month or two after. > * Ricky's question about centralizing on a specific type of markup. > Since Docs worked with Mike on the script, following the Doc's markup is > probably the best path to clean markup conversion: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/WorkFlow#Wiki_to_DocBook_XML > ^-- step 2 has a list of specific anchors in WikiEditing and other pages > > These are the specific ways we use the Moin syntax. It's not as much a > subset but a noble consistency that gives us the best chance of fast > search and replaces on the DocBook side. In other words, when we get > ''foo'' => foo, we know that it's one > of just a few DocBook tags, then can do iterations of manual > search-n-replace on each file. > > * On HTML: > < ianweller> i notice that mostly html is just for headers and > such. should we create some sort of template for a standardized > project page header > > For any of those in the Docs.* namespace, those are a workaround for the > DocBook converter in Moin. Let's convert those in the script that are > in the Docs.* namespace into the equivalent

    foo

    => == foo ==. > (Added to ticket 31.) > > For HTML of IRC logs, maybe convert them to attachments and create a > contents page? (Added to ticket 31.) Exactly how attachments is going to work is still quite fuzzy in my head. We can mass upload attachments, but I'm not totally sure I can predict _where_ they'll end up. So if we had something at wiki/MyPictures/attachment it might end up in /wiki/uploads/5/42/MyPictures_attachment I've not looked into this much but anyone with experience in mediawiki attachments please do ping me and point me in the right direction, it'd save some time. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Sat Apr 26 16:07:55 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:07:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: questions from wiki migration mtg In-Reply-To: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > Sorry I couldn't attend today. Here's some stuff I dug from the IRC > log: > > * UserName => User:username ... ouch > - anything we can do with mod_rewrite? > - some of these pages are well indexed and referenced > - any reason we cannot migrate all the wiki/UserName to an equivalent > wiki/UserName and let people source that to fill out their User:username > page. > - I understand that User:foobar has special meaning in MediaWiki and > agree it is worth the hassle for those who want the functionality; do we > have to force the feature on them and break their URLs? > Ah, forgot one thing, when you move a page in mediawiki I think it auto-forwards the old page. So after someone moves something, it'll redirect properly. -Mike From stuart at terminus.co.uk Sat Apr 26 17:38:00 2008 From: stuart at terminus.co.uk (Stuart Children) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:38:00 +0100 Subject: install guide link Message-ID: <48136878.4020303@terminus.co.uk> Hiya I think it would be particularly helpful to link [prominently] from the "Get Fedora" page http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora to the Installation Guide http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/ The former is very visible from around the site (rightly so), but I find rather terse... here are some files, hope you know what the difference is between them and what to do with your download. The latter does a very good job of explaining these things to both new users and old hands like myself! Thanks for your work in maintaining the site. Regards -- Stuart From ianweller at gmail.com Sat Apr 26 21:45:55 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:45:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: questions from wiki migration mtg In-Reply-To: References: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: > Ah, forgot one thing, when you move a page in mediawiki I think it > auto-forwards the old page. So after someone moves something, it'll > redirect properly. That is very correct. -- ian From mmk9060 at aol.com Sun Apr 27 08:52:54 2008 From: mmk9060 at aol.com (Makoto Mizukami) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:52:54 +0900 Subject: About "http://l10n.fedoraproject.org"'s login page... Message-ID: <48143EE6.8090203@aol.com> Hi About "http://l10n.fedoraproject.org"'s login page, If I failed to login first time and input correct information second time (or later), I will be brought not to forward page, but to the login form, even though I have logged in successfully. Then, when I mistyped my password and failed to login, the server returned me following code: Fedora Translations :: Authenticate .....
    The credentials you supplied were not correct or did not grant access to this resource.
    ... ..... Yes, this means that I will send two "forwad_url" queries if I click "Submit" button. And certainly, I jumped to "https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/loginhttps://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/" after clicking "Submit". This is not critical, but better to fix, isn't it? Regards, makoto From mmk9060 at aol.com Sun Apr 27 08:59:34 2008 From: mmk9060 at aol.com (Makoto Mizukami) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:59:34 +0900 Subject: About "http://l10n.fedoraproject.org"'s login page... In-Reply-To: <48143EE6.8090203@aol.com> References: <48143EE6.8090203@aol.com> Message-ID: <48144076.7000401@aol.com> Oops, I made some mistake in grammar - please never mind... From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Sun Apr 27 12:51:26 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:51:26 -0400 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209166582.2959.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > > i totally agree!! > > we cannot compare two different projects and two different websites that > > aim at two different points. Obviously opensuse.org aims to let people > > know about the tools the have build (Build Services) and of course the > > wiki. The thing is, their wiki is so well organized that it feels good > > to navigate in and also their wiki is their replacement for our fp.o > > If we had a wiki so well designed with an interactive and intuitive > > interface such as opensuse's wiki, we could discard having fp.o as the > > wiki would do just a better job. But so far nor the wiki and definitely > > not the fp.o site are helping on filling the gap between new > > users/contributors and the project. > > > > I talked to the opensuse guys, similar to our wiki anyone with an account > has access to edit the wiki. So the question is, what do they do > different or is it just they have a younger wiki? > > > > Also im getting tired of this discussion as it seems its not going I would disagree that it's not going somewhere. I think it's been slow, and not been fraught with actual decisions or any concrete direction, but has helped clarify what the group thinks. Akin to 'It's not the destination, but the journey' sort of utility. > The group is getting bigger but still, unfortunately, very few leaders > have come out of it. Ricky and ignacio immediately come to mind but of > the people on this list, how many of you have commited or created and > proposed a patch to the website in the last year? Sure, your right. And the silence is fairly loud. (and +1 btw; verify, sponsors) This group doesn't accomplish much. How can we? we don't have regular meetings and numerous of our tickets are for things the website group doesn't even have git access to: tickets 181 (d.f.rh.com), 206 (docs.fp.o). Or tickets are just hanging around, waiting for translations (493), or are unclear (etags thing). We also don't have much direction or leadership. We have never had a website meeting, ever. From what I can tell, every other fedora group have a clear team lead, and that lead has a RH e-mail addy. I suspect that fact brings more cohesion and direction to those groups. There are good people here, people who care about fedora and do good work. And I for one find myself frustrated and wasting lots of my $fedora time just trying to figure out process questions, and I am sure that I am not alone. (Such as what (besides the tickets) needs doing. If it's OK to 'just do' whatever it is. How to gather a consensus for things like rss feeds on the home page or not. If it's OK to push new pages that have no translations. can we change the layout without ART team/marketing team...(and can we be sued for the red in the beta banner?!)) Perhaps I have done nothing but reiterate your point that we suck, but I guess my point is that yea, we do, but perhaps it's time for some one of the few leaders we do have to drive us, to establish a meeting time and point us in $the_direction so we can be less sucky. my $.02 cents :-} -- Craig From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Apr 28 14:32:39 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:32:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209166582.2959.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Craig Thomas wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > > > > i totally agree!! > > > we cannot compare two different projects and two different websites that > > > aim at two different points. Obviously opensuse.org aims to let people > > > know about the tools the have build (Build Services) and of course the > > > wiki. The thing is, their wiki is so well organized that it feels good > > > to navigate in and also their wiki is their replacement for our fp.o > > > If we had a wiki so well designed with an interactive and intuitive > > > interface such as opensuse's wiki, we could discard having fp.o as the > > > wiki would do just a better job. But so far nor the wiki and definitely > > > not the fp.o site are helping on filling the gap between new > > > users/contributors and the project. > > > > > > > I talked to the opensuse guys, similar to our wiki anyone with an account > > has access to edit the wiki. So the question is, what do they do > > different or is it just they have a younger wiki? > > > > > > > Also im getting tired of this discussion as it seems its not going > > I would disagree that it's not going somewhere. I think it's been > slow, and not been fraught with actual decisions or any concrete > direction, but has helped clarify what the group thinks. Akin to 'It's > not the destination, but the journey' sort of utility. > > > > The group is getting bigger but still, unfortunately, very few leaders > > have come out of it. Ricky and ignacio immediately come to mind but of > > the people on this list, how many of you have commited or created and > > proposed a patch to the website in the last year? > > > > Sure, your right. And the silence is fairly loud. (and +1 btw; verify, > sponsors) > > This group doesn't accomplish much. How can we? we don't have > regular meetings and numerous of our tickets are for things the > website group doesn't even have git access to: tickets 181 > (d.f.rh.com), 206 (docs.fp.o). Or tickets are just hanging around, > waiting for translations (493), or are unclear (etags thing). > Not having access to get for these projects shouldn't have anything to do with not doing the work though. You can check these projects out and fix them and submit them back to people that do have access (probably getting access yourself in the process) > We also don't have much direction or leadership. We have never had a > website meeting, ever. From what I can tell, every other fedora group > have a clear team lead, and that lead has a RH e-mail addy. I suspect > that fact brings more cohesion and direction to those groups. > There is a bit of history behind this. I believe this team at one point was quite a bit more active but after the wiki came out, there was little need for an organized group. But now its more mature. Perhaps we do need meetings and things. Here's the thing, and this is a big step for people to take for some reason. I'd bet there's over 100 people on this list... there's nothing stopping ANY of them from saying "I'd like to schedule a meeting on this day" and then scheduling the meeting, and holding it. > There are good people here, people who care about fedora and do good > work. And I for one find myself frustrated and wasting lots of my > $fedora time just trying to figure out process questions, and I am > sure that I am not alone. (Such as what (besides the tickets) needs > doing. If it's OK to 'just do' whatever it is. How to gather a > consensus for things like rss feeds on the home page or not. If it's > OK to push new pages that have no translations. can we change the > layout without ART team/marketing team...(and can we be sued for the > red in the beta banner?!)) > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PageRequests needs doing. As far as being "frustrated" and "wasting lots of your time" goes.... I don't know what to tell you. The last job I started I spend 4 days on orientation (the job before Red Hat). Fedora is somewhere between 1,000 and 2,500 active contributors with many independent teams. Not all of which are full time so it can be hard to get ahold of them. Its a large, complex organization that matures every day. If you're going to get involved with it, there's going to be a learning curve unfortunately. That's just part of being as large as we are. There's many different types of volunteers. For those of you that just want to be told what to do, just ask. I can give you stuff. For those of you that want to take a bigger part in fedora websites. Suggest a meeting time, create a wiki page, make sure people can attend, show up with an agenda (I'll be there), hold the meeting, send the notes to the list. > Perhaps I have done nothing but reiterate your point that we suck, but > I guess my point is that yea, we do, but perhaps it's time for some > one of the few leaders we do have to drive us, to establish a meeting > time and point us in $the_direction so we can be less sucky. > I'd certainly not say "we suck" but in the past (look through the archives) you'll see a number of times where we've asked people to design pages and for some reason we almost never get them and I have to ping ricky or ignacio directly. I'm worried the above content sounds like it was ment to antagonize people but its really not. I can smell that the websites team is ready to do things again but its been very hard to see exactly how to do that because at the end of the day... we don't get patches, or fixes or anything else. I plead with someone to reply to this email and say "I can dedicate 2 hours a week to scheduling and holding a weekly meeting" -Mike From kwade at redhat.com Mon Apr 28 22:50:14 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:50:14 -0700 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Eh, it looks like the laptop.org home page which has always felt lacking > to me. Not to say that we don't have too much on our front page, just > that too little can be just as bad. An interface that's too cluttered > is hard to navigate but an interface that has too little doesn't give > you enough clues on how to navigate and worse, no reason to want to > navigate it. This is the position that I take. We must not be slavish in our worship of simplicity to the point of dropping important aspects of the _Fedora_ main website. My thinking is to look for different ways to present simplicity with complexity. * Make use of AJAX and hide/show stuff easily - by preference, i.e., remember what someone set (cookie) - by dynamic effect, such as mouseover * Remember across sessions what people prefer, so you can minimize clutter * Give people the option to make stuff invisible? That is, "Never show me the news feed or link to join, I only ever want to see downloads and the latest package information feed/security alerts." * Elegant failure just ends up with a more cluttered page but all information is available * Define what the _Fedora_ main page must convey - people don't like being lead down a long tunnel (the funneling concept) if they can find what they want on the front page - for a search portal (google is, fedora ain't), one can be as minimal as google.com is - we obviously need to raise to the surface more exposure points than google * Make simpled, elegant, and cool tools that let us convey that information for people in a useful way * Make it a bit hard to turn off the dynamic parts of the page. People need to see regularly the vibrancy of our community, on every page visit. - It doesn't have to be RSS feeds, but it cold - It could be a visual representation of how far along translation on the latest release is going - It could show a package count + packagers + users cool graph heat map thingie * Be willing to try ideas and watch the metrics - If people click on something, talk about it, post the URL often in #fedora, embrace it for longer - If people ignore and hate it, remove it ... stuff like that. -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Back when Fedora Extras was just a gleam in the eyes of a few folks, what you are saying was definitely true. @redhat.com had a very important gravity that started things going. The idea that is still a requirement saddens me. But I *totally* agree with the perception, in that it is often the @redhat.com person who can take $dayjob time to commit to organizing stuff. In Fedora, I've taken a bit of a pinch hitter role in that way, lending either @redhat.com or Fedora Board Member as some gravity to get a critical mass going. But these days, I know with 100% certainty that every time I do that, a kitten dies. But every time I sit back and enable and let someone ... such as yourself ... do it instead, ten kittens are born. That's a factual ratio. > Perhaps I have done nothing but reiterate your point that we suck, but > I guess my point is that yea, we do, but perhaps it's time for some > one of the few leaders we do have to drive us, to establish a meeting > time and point us in $the_direction so we can be less sucky. Let me give an example. Before the last FUDCon, Jon Stanley, who is leading the revitalized Bug Triage team (with the help of @redhat.com people, who we *are* a bit ubiquitous), said, "It's time we do this, I'll come down there on Friday and we'll kick off a bug triage SIG." (paraphrase) I offered to pick him up at the airport, there was a BarCamp session the next day, and away it went. Ten kittens were born. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kwade at redhat.com Mon Apr 28 23:07:58 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:07:58 -0700 Subject: questions from wiki migration mtg In-Reply-To: References: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1209424078.30855.73.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 10:56 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > Sorry I couldn't attend today. Here's some stuff I dug from the IRC > > log: > > > > * UserName => User:username ... ouch > > - anything we can do with mod_rewrite? > > - some of these pages are well indexed and referenced > > - any reason we cannot migrate all the wiki/UserName to an equivalent > > wiki/UserName and let people source that to fill out their User:username > > page. > > Nothing exists that maps wikiname to username. wikiname was a poor choice > and now we're paying for it :-/ > > > - I understand that User:foobar has special meaning in MediaWiki and > > agree it is worth the hassle for those who want the functionality; do we > > have to force the feature on them and break their URLs? > > > > They can do it on their own time. This is something that I suspect will > just be a mess forever. Some using User: some leaving it at their old > /wiki/WikiName. I think I'm not understanding something. Here is the main question. :) * Are we going to break the URLs of the pattern wiki/UserName in the migration? Once migrated, yeah, we can have people manually migrate them over. If I were the Wiki Master[1], I would enforce the rule that people had to migrate them, by hunting down and nagging people to death. Or occasionally doing it for them. - Karsten [1] I need something to do with my free time after retiring from Docs leader :) -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From juankprada at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 23:46:05 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:46:05 -0500 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 15:50 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > Eh, it looks like the laptop.org home page which has always felt lacking > > to me. Not to say that we don't have too much on our front page, just > > that too little can be just as bad. An interface that's too cluttered > > is hard to navigate but an interface that has too little doesn't give > > you enough clues on how to navigate and worse, no reason to want to > > navigate it. > > This is the position that I take. We must not be slavish in our worship > of simplicity to the point of dropping important aspects of the _Fedora_ > main website. > > My thinking is to look for different ways to present simplicity with > complexity. > > * Make use of AJAX and hide/show stuff easily > - by preference, i.e., remember what someone set (cookie) > - by dynamic effect, such as mouseover > > * Remember across sessions what people prefer, so you can minimize > clutter > > * Give people the option to make stuff invisible? That is, "Never show > me the news feed or link to join, I only ever want to see downloads and > the latest package information feed/security alerts." > > * Elegant failure just ends up with a more cluttered page but all > information is available > > * Define what the _Fedora_ main page must convey > - people don't like being lead down a long tunnel (the funneling > concept) if they can find what they want on the front page > - for a search portal (google is, fedora ain't), one can be as > minimal as google.com is > - we obviously need to raise to the surface more exposure points > than google > > * Make simpled, elegant, and cool tools that let us convey that > information for people in a useful way > > * Make it a bit hard to turn off the dynamic parts of the page. People > need to see regularly the vibrancy of our community, on every page > visit. > - It doesn't have to be RSS feeds, but it cold > - It could be a visual representation of how far along translation on > the latest release is going > - It could show a package count + packagers + users cool graph heat > map thingie > > * Be willing to try ideas and watch the metrics > - If people click on something, talk about it, post the URL often in > #fedora, embrace it for longer > - If people ignore and hate it, remove it > > ... stuff like that. > I couldnt agree more!! what i tried to say last time was that this kind of ideas are not being seriously taken as we keep discussing if fp.o need changes or not and if those changes should be huge or small. i can remember how i did some changes to the layout a few months ago, and lots of people say "hey this is great..." but then nobody took it seriously. So as long as we dont take any actions we will be stuck at this point of discussion. ?quaid has this great starting points, lets take them into a count, lets stop discussing things that are not going anywhere and lets make a meeting in which we can settle this and start working on it. If i had the experience and knowledge i would lead it myself, but im not sure how to do it. If there is someone who can help me with it then please contact me and lets work together on that meeting. The sooner the better -- Juan Camilo Prada From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 23:52:05 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:52:05 -0400 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209166582.2959.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Craig Thomas wrote: > > > This group doesn't accomplish much. How can we? we don't have > > regular meetings and numerous of our tickets are for things the > > website group doesn't even have git access to: tickets 181 > > (d.f.rh.com), 206 (docs.fp.o). Or tickets are just hanging around, > > waiting for translations (493), or are unclear (etags thing). > > > > Not having access to get for these projects shouldn't have anything to do > with not doing the work though. You can check these projects out and fix > them and submit them back to people that do have access (probably getting > access yourself in the process) Very true. However, when reviewing the git projects here: http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/ I am tempted to pull : http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/docs-web.git which I suspected was not right, and in fact does *not* contain docs.fp.o . And I think that illustrates my point; It's just an extra, needless hurdle or two. But yeah, not having commit access is not really the issue. Having easy access to the source for the parts we are 'responsible' for seems to me to make lots of sense though, and would make getting the work done easier. Really, where do we get/checkout (anonymously) docs.fp.o ? or should I just use wget ? > need for an organized group. But now its more mature. Perhaps we do need > meetings and things. Here's the thing, and this is a big step for people > to take for some reason. > > I'd bet there's over 100 people on this list... there's nothing stopping > ANY of them from saying "I'd like to schedule a meeting on this day" and > then scheduling the meeting, and holding it. Point taken. (Wow, over 100? we are a quiet crew :-} ) > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PageRequests needs doing. As far > as being "frustrated" and "wasting lots of your time" goes.... I don't > know what to tell you. The last job I started I spend 4 days on > orientation (the job before Red Hat). Fedora is somewhere between 1,000 > and 2,500 active contributors with many independent teams. Not all of > which are full time so it can be hard to get ahold of them. Its a large, > complex organization that matures every day. If you're going to get > involved with it, there's going to be a learning curve unfortunately. > That's just part of being as large as we are. I understand this, and do not mean to sound whinny about these facts. I just think that the of lack of communication and cohesion of this group makes it very hard to get things done, that's all. Just like you said, you contact your go to guys at the last minute and they get the job done (because they do rock!). But we all know this means that only you and the go to guys know what was done and why. And that is no way to build a team. > I'm worried the above content sounds like it was ment to antagonize people > but its really not. I can smell that the websites team is ready to do > things again but its been very hard to see exactly how to do that because > at the end of the day... we don't get patches, or fixes or anything else. > I plead with someone to reply to this email and say "I can dedicate 2 > hours a week to scheduling and holding a weekly meeting" I don't think it sounds antagonizing; direct, honest assessment, sure, but not antagonizing. And I think I can smell it too. -- Craig From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 00:04:18 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:04:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: questions from wiki migration mtg In-Reply-To: <1209424078.30855.73.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1209182948.28418.358.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209424078.30855.73.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 10:56 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > > > Sorry I couldn't attend today. Here's some stuff I dug from the IRC > > > log: > > > > > > * UserName => User:username ... ouch > > > - anything we can do with mod_rewrite? > > > - some of these pages are well indexed and referenced > > > - any reason we cannot migrate all the wiki/UserName to an equivalent > > > wiki/UserName and let people source that to fill out their User:username > > > page. > > > > Nothing exists that maps wikiname to username. wikiname was a poor choice > > and now we're paying for it :-/ > > > > > - I understand that User:foobar has special meaning in MediaWiki and > > > agree it is worth the hassle for those who want the functionality; do we > > > have to force the feature on them and break their URLs? > > > > > > > They can do it on their own time. This is something that I suspect will > > just be a mess forever. Some using User: some leaving it at their old > > /wiki/WikiName. > > I think I'm not understanding something. Here is the main question. :) > > * Are we going to break the URLs of the pattern wiki/UserName in the > migration? > No. -Mike From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 00:06:09 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:06:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 15:50 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > ... stuff like that. > > > > I couldnt agree more!! > > what i tried to say last time was that this kind of ideas are not being > seriously taken as we keep discussing if fp.o need changes or not and if > those changes should be huge or small. > > i can remember how i did some changes to the layout a few months ago, > and lots of people say "hey this is great..." but then nobody took it > seriously. So as long as we dont take any actions we will be stuck at > this point of discussion. > Please find this in the list, and show us the patch you gave us. I take comments like these very very seriously. If you sent us stuff and it just went down the tube, thats bad. If you said "I've got an idea" and it was ignored, thats because idea's != change. -Mike From jonstanley at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 01:05:24 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:05:24 -0400 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209423701.30855.67.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209166582.2959.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209423701.30855.67.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: 2008/4/28 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : > Let me give an example. Before the last FUDCon, Jon Stanley, who is > leading the revitalized Bug Triage team (with the help of @redhat.com > people, who we *are* a bit ubiquitous), said, "It's time we do this, > I'll come down there on Friday and we'll kick off a bug triage > SIG." (paraphrase) I offered to pick him up at the airport, there was a > BarCamp session the next day, and away it went. Ten kittens were born. Hey from the lurker on f-websites-l :) What Karsten said is 100% true - I'm not @redhat.com, there's nothing that says you have to be in order to do great things in Fedora. Sure, it might help you in terms of the time crunch of competing demands of $dayjob, but even that's not really true - the majority of Fedora contributors @redhat.com don't do this as their day job. As a concrete example of that, I'll take the leader of the art team, Mairin Duffy. She's a UI designer for RHN Satellite - and the leader of the art team on the side. So do what I did, say "we have a problem and need to fix it NOW!", and go forth and do it! I'll pass along some (paraphrased) advice I got from Greg DeKoenigsberg when I was starting: Piece of advice #1: Do the work yourself for a few weeks to understand what it entails. Once you're satisfied, send a note to fedora-announce list and say "I'm the new webmaster, unless someone else tells me why they are the new webmaster." Be the leader from day one. :) (this is pretty much what I did) Piece of advice #2 Have weekly meetings on IRC. (NOTE: I've pretty much failed in this as of late :( ). Piece of advice #3: Keep a TODO list on the wiki, and use that TODO list to drive your weekly meetings. And make sure that TODO list has *names* and *dates*. Hold people accountable, even if they're just volunteers. (reference http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Tasks as a template) One piece of advice that I'd add to this is to make sure that there is a *clear* process to follow to get involved (much along the same lines as this entire thread, really), and that you document that on the wiki, and it's in an approachable format. The BugZappers landing page was put on a serious diet, and all of the content moved to various subpages underneath it. Good luck, and if you want to trade stories with someone who's actually done this, I'll be at FUDCon Boston, look me up! :) From juankprada at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 02:07:04 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:07:04 -0500 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:06 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 15:50 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > ... stuff like that. > > > > > > > I couldnt agree more!! > > > > what i tried to say last time was that this kind of ideas are not being > > seriously taken as we keep discussing if fp.o need changes or not and if > > those changes should be huge or small. > > > > i can remember how i did some changes to the layout a few months ago, > > and lots of people say "hey this is great..." but then nobody took it > > seriously. So as long as we dont take any actions we will be stuck at > > this point of discussion. > > > > Please find this in the list, and show us the patch you gave us. I take > comments like these very very seriously. If you sent us stuff and it just > went down the tube, thats bad. If you said "I've got an idea" and it was > ignored, thats because idea's != change. > > -Mike > It was a discussion about the same issues we were discussing here. I wrote a script to parse some rss news from different sites, and played a bit with m?ir?n's designs to create what you can see in this link -> http://juankprada.livejournal.com/4805.html (now that i look back to that post i see you were one of the people who liked what i did, Mike). If you really want the comments on the list i could only find this link (i didnt really search) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-February/msg00034.html I talked to ricky about that idea and we both agreed that it would be good to make the changes but it would be better to wait till some changes on the infrastructure (im still not sure i understood what he said) so i keep waiting (thats why im in a rush for stop talking and start working). So this all goes to the starting point in which i said we lack of leadership. If somebody has an idea that could make a change then who decide if it is ok or not?... we are not even voting for such things and so we comment about those ideas here on the ml and some people dislike the idea and then thats all for it. Even if lots of people support your idea, when two or three dislike it then nothing is done. Now quaid is/was working on something similar and i support him as i would really like such features to appear on the website, and im pretty sure that he started to work on that feature because (just like me and probably a lot more people in here) he saw the need of it on the website. ?As you said idea's != change, but so, this is the prove that something similar to what i did needs to be done, as im not the only one thinking about such feature. From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 02:22:58 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:22:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:06 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 15:50 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > ... stuff like that. > > > > > > > > > > I couldnt agree more!! > > > > > > what i tried to say last time was that this kind of ideas are not being > > > seriously taken as we keep discussing if fp.o need changes or not and if > > > those changes should be huge or small. > > > > > > i can remember how i did some changes to the layout a few months ago, > > > and lots of people say "hey this is great..." but then nobody took it > > > seriously. So as long as we dont take any actions we will be stuck at > > > this point of discussion. > > > > > > > Please find this in the list, and show us the patch you gave us. I take > > comments like these very very seriously. If you sent us stuff and it just > > went down the tube, thats bad. If you said "I've got an idea" and it was > > ignored, thats because idea's != change. > > > > -Mike > > > > > It was a discussion about the same issues we were discussing here. I > wrote a script to parse some rss news from different sites, and played a > bit with m??ir??n's designs to create what you can see in this link -> > http://juankprada.livejournal.com/4805.html (now that i look back to > that post i see you were one of the people who liked what i did, Mike). > If you really want the comments on the list i could only find this link > (i didnt really search) > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-February/msg00034.html > > I talked to ricky about that idea and we both agreed that it would be > good to make the changes but it would be better to wait till some > changes on the infrastructure (im still not sure i understood what he > said) so i keep waiting (thats why im in a rush for stop talking and > start working). > > So this all goes to the starting point in which i said we lack of > leadership. If somebody has an idea that could make a change then who > decide if it is ok or not?... we are not even voting for such things and > so we comment about those ideas here on the ml and some people dislike > the idea and then thats all for it. Even if lots of people support your > idea, when two or three dislike it then nothing is done. > > Now quaid is/was working on something similar and i support him as i > would really like such features to appear on the website, and im pretty > sure that he started to work on that feature because (just like me and > probably a lot more people in here) he saw the need of it on the > website. > > ???As you said idea's != change, but so, this is the prove that something > similar to what i did needs to be done, as im not the only one thinking > about such feature. > 1) So you posted this image... 2) Everyone liked it... 3) Patch submitted. So what happened between 2 and 3? More precisely I ask, what do you think _should_ have happened? In my mind, step 3 comes next. As a volunteer in Fedora (even long before I had @redhat.com on my email) I just kept working on stuff, pushing to get stuff in until someone said no. When they did, I found out why and fixed it. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs was built with that in mind There may be a hangup or two, but those are minor technical details when compared to getting an active working site in order. -Mike From juankprada at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 02:53:20 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:53:20 -0500 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1209437600.3406.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 21:22 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 19:06 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 15:50 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 15:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > > ... stuff like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldnt agree more!! > > > > > > > > what i tried to say last time was that this kind of ideas are not being > > > > seriously taken as we keep discussing if fp.o need changes or not and if > > > > those changes should be huge or small. > > > > > > > > i can remember how i did some changes to the layout a few months ago, > > > > and lots of people say "hey this is great..." but then nobody took it > > > > seriously. So as long as we dont take any actions we will be stuck at > > > > this point of discussion. > > > > > > > > > > Please find this in the list, and show us the patch you gave us. I take > > > comments like these very very seriously. If you sent us stuff and it just > > > went down the tube, thats bad. If you said "I've got an idea" and it was > > > ignored, thats because idea's != change. > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > It was a discussion about the same issues we were discussing here. I > > wrote a script to parse some rss news from different sites, and played a > > bit with m??ir??n's designs to create what you can see in this link -> > > http://juankprada.livejournal.com/4805.html (now that i look back to > > that post i see you were one of the people who liked what i did, Mike). > > If you really want the comments on the list i could only find this link > > (i didnt really search) > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-February/msg00034.html > > > > I talked to ricky about that idea and we both agreed that it would be > > good to make the changes but it would be better to wait till some > > changes on the infrastructure (im still not sure i understood what he > > said) so i keep waiting (thats why im in a rush for stop talking and > > start working). > > > > So this all goes to the starting point in which i said we lack of > > leadership. If somebody has an idea that could make a change then who > > decide if it is ok or not?... we are not even voting for such things and > > so we comment about those ideas here on the ml and some people dislike > > the idea and then thats all for it. Even if lots of people support your > > idea, when two or three dislike it then nothing is done. > > > > Now quaid is/was working on something similar and i support him as i > > would really like such features to appear on the website, and im pretty > > sure that he started to work on that feature because (just like me and > > probably a lot more people in here) he saw the need of it on the > > website. > > > > ???As you said idea's != change, but so, this is the prove that something > > similar to what i did needs to be done, as im not the only one thinking > > about such feature. > > > > 1) So you posted this image... > > 2) Everyone liked it... > > 3) Patch submitted. > > So what happened between 2 and 3? More precisely I ask, what do you think > _should_ have happened? In my mind, step 3 comes next. As a volunteer in > Fedora (even long before I had @redhat.com on my email) I just kept > working on stuff, pushing to get stuff in until someone said no. When > they did, I found out why and fixed it. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs was built with that in mind > > There may be a hangup or two, but those are minor technical details when > compared to getting an active working site in order. > > -Mike As i said (i hope you actually read the whole message), ricky though it would be better to wait for some changes in the way the websites were handled so im waiting. now, im thinking you are going to the branches and avoiding the main subject here. this is not about why my proposal isnt being used, but the way we are handling things here. I hope you dont take this personal, but i think you are one of the guys who are delaying the advance and progress of the website team. i know you help a lot and i give you credit for that. But you are always the one who is against new proposals and ideas. Also i dont want to sound like a mr. know-it-all but we are talking here about a website and thats a very dynamic field in which changes needs to be done quick because new requirements will show up before you finish building the previous ones. If you ever heard about RAD (rapid application development) this is the field in which it should be applied, and having long discussions about what should/shouldn't be done is not helping. back to the main subject, Users demand information, and as a project we should provide that information, and the kind of information they demand changes very quick, we cant always show the same info or the website will be useless as people might already know whats in it so they wont visit it. From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 03:03:52 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:03:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209437600.3406.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209437600.3406.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > As i said (i hope you actually read the whole message), ricky though it > would be better to wait for some changes in the way the websites were > handled so im waiting. > yeah, there's implementation issues. So its not implimented. Why not have it ready so when we can implement it... it just goes right in? > now, im thinking you are going to the branches and avoiding the main > subject here. this is not about why my proposal isnt being used, but the > way we are handling things here. > > I hope you dont take this personal, but i think you are one of the guys > who are delaying the advance and progress of the website team. i know > you help a lot and i give you credit for that. But you are always the > one who is against new proposals and ideas. > I'm not against new ideas. I'm against complication... I have a very long memory and I remember what the wiki used to look like when it was our landing page. I couldn't find anything. Now though, I can find stuff pretty easily. Even more then that we're getting to a point where there are canonical pages. IE: when you want fedora... go to fedoraproject.org/get-fedora. Don't think of me as "against progress". Think of me as a check and balance, and one that can be completely ignored. Feel free to reference this email: I, Mike McGrath, know almost nothing about UI design except that it should be left to UI designers, not engineers like myself. But I remember what the first thing people used to see when they came to the website: #wget -U 'gimme' -qO- 'http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMain?action=recall&rev=195' | grep -c -i href 62 62 links. Maybe thats good, maybe thats what we want. I don't think it looks good, but that really doesn't matter at the end of the day. Ultimately what I want is to be able to go to a websites team and say "hey, we need this" just like I do the art team, marketing team, translators, docs team, etc. -Mike From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 29 03:14:09 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:14:09 -0400 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080429031409.GA9749@Max> On 2008-04-28 09:07:04 PM, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > It was a discussion about the same issues we were discussing here. I > wrote a script to parse some rss news from different sites, and played a > bit with m?ir?n's designs to create what you can see in this link -> > http://juankprada.livejournal.com/4805.html (now that i look back to > that post i see you were one of the people who liked what i did, Mike). > If you really want the comments on the list i could only find this link > (i didnt really search) > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-February/msg00034.html > > I talked to ricky about that idea and we both agreed that it would be > good to make the changes but it would be better to wait till some > changes on the infrastructure (im still not sure i understood what he > said) so i keep waiting (thats why im in a rush for stop talking and > start working). > > So this all goes to the starting point in which i said we lack of > leadership. If somebody has an idea that could make a change then who > decide if it is ok or not?... we are not even voting for such things and > so we comment about those ideas here on the ml and some people dislike > the idea and then thats all for it. Even if lots of people support your > idea, when two or three dislike it then nothing is done. I should really apologize for the way that I handled your contributions. Around this time, I was concentrating on FAS2 a lot, and I pretty much put everything else aside, which definitely wasn't the right thing to do. Going back to the technical difficulties that I was talking about - most of this has been related to translations for our website. One thing that I'd like to discuss at a meeting is how we can coordinate with l10n to get regular website updates translated. Right now, every time I change a string, I have to worry about translations not being updated (and the problem of things like half-translated pages). I am still worried about having the website grow too much while it has this limitation. So here are some vague thoughts torwards a solution: * Have some sort of release cycle associated with websites (that we would coordinate with l10n about) * Website change email notifications to specific groups within l10n? Any other ideas about how we can handle this? (I should start a discussion of this on fedora-trans-list soon.) Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 03:16:22 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:16:22 -0400 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209437600.3406.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > Ultimately what I want is to be able to go to a websites team and say > "hey, we need this" just like I do the art team, marketing team, > translators, docs team, etc. Right. And that's exactly what the websites team should be; a service, just like the other teams. Other teams should be able to come to us, ask for a web presence, be it wiki or static and we give that to them, full stop. -- Craig From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 03:19:20 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings Message-ID: In response to Mike's blog post, I will put together an agenda and run a Fedora Websites meeting on Wednesday, April 30th. I will plan to make this a weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group that shows up. We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' Is this ok with folks? --Max From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 03:18:25 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:18:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > In response to Mike's blog post, I will put together an agenda and run a > Fedora Websites meeting on Wednesday, April 30th. I will plan to make this a > weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group that shows up. > > We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC > > date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' > > Is this ok with folks? > +1, I'll be there. -Mike From juankprada at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 03:21:28 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:21:28 -0500 Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209437600.3406.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1209439288.3406.53.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 22:03 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > I'm not against new ideas. I'm against complication... I have a very long > memory and I remember what the wiki used to look like when it was our > landing page. I couldn't find anything. Now though, I can find stuff > pretty easily. Even more then that we're getting to a point where there > are canonical pages. IE: when you want fedora... go to > fedoraproject.org/get-fedora. > > Don't think of me as "against progress". Think of me as a > check and balance, and one that can be completely ignored. Feel free to > reference this email: > > I, Mike McGrath, know almost nothing about UI design except that it should > be left to UI designers, not engineers like myself. > I totally agree with you.. engineers like you and me pretty much suck at UI design, but we are not alone here, there is people in the art team who is really good at it (remember my idea... i didnt created the layout.. just got the mockup from m?ir?n's ideas and worked over it). > But I remember what the first thing people used to see when they came to > the website: > > #wget -U 'gimme' -qO- 'http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMain?action=recall&rev=195' | grep -c -i href > 62 > > 62 links. Maybe thats good, maybe thats what we want. I don't think it > looks good, but that really doesn't matter at the end of the day. > Ultimately what I want is to be able to go to a websites team and say > "hey, we need this" just like I do the art team, marketing team, > translators, docs team, etc. The problem in a website is not how many links are there, as at the end a website without links is useless, but how they are shown, and im pretty sure no one here wants a messy website for the project. So i think you should trust us a bit more. I think i wont say more, as i've said all i had to say, just hope people here decides what to do, but do it quick as we are getting behind in this field compared to other projects From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 03:28:02 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:28:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Simple website In-Reply-To: <1209439288.3406.53.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <042520082124.14767.48124C19000A4154000039AF221556707402019C079D9D0E08D30B9D0E080C079D@comcast.net> <48125F73.4090102@gmail.com> <1209423014.30855.58.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1209426365.3319.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209434824.3406.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209437600.3406.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1209439288.3406.53.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > I think i wont say more, as i've said all i had to say, just hope people > here decides what to do, but do it quick as we are getting behind in > this field compared to other projects > You're one of the people on this list. And one of the ones that not only cares enough to post to the list but one that I think has a legitimate vision of what the website should look like. I hope your version of the site does get turned into actual html and css. I think once that point is done whatever translation issues are still around will quickly melt away... Hope you can make it to the meeting. -Mike From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 03:34:11 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:34:11 -0400 Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > > > In response to Mike's blog post, I will put together an agenda and run a > > Fedora Websites meeting on Wednesday, April 30th. I will plan to make this a > > weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group that shows up. > > > > We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC > > > > date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' > > > > Is this ok with folks? > > > > +1, I'll be there. +1, me too. -- Craig From juankprada at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 03:47:47 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:47:47 -0500 Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1209440867.3406.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 23:34 -0400, Craig Thomas wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > > > > > In response to Mike's blog post, I will put together an agenda and run a > > > Fedora Websites meeting on Wednesday, April 30th. I will plan to make this a > > > weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group that shows up. > > > > > > We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC > > > > > > date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' > > > > > > Is this ok with folks? > > > > > > > +1, I'll be there. > > +1, me too. > > -- > Craig > +1 me too -- Juan Camilo Prada From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 04:06:31 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Our first meeting Message-ID: Here's my vision for how we can hold the first 2 or 3 Fedora websites meetings, in order to get a grasp on current business and also begin to plan for the future (ie: what Websites should look like post F9). For our first meeting: :00 - :20 -- current status of websites work that is directly needed for Fedora 9. I'll have a bit of coming up to speed to do myself. We'll run through the open tasks that are being worked on for the release, and see where everything is. :20 - :30 -- I want to make sure that everyone gets on the same page about how Fedora Websites and Fedora Infrastrucutre interact. There are a lot of shared members, and I'm not even sure really where the roles break down. The "designers" of the websites and the "folks who put the designs into production" are two distinct sets of people, I would imagine. :30 - 50 -- I want to begin a discussion about vision, and I want to give the folks who attend a chance to say what each person considers to be the critical path for Fedora websites. Let's use this meeting and the mailing list to make some strategic decisions about where we want the Websites team to go, and what we want it to be achieving, by the time Fedora 10 comes out. This will take more than 1 meeting to achieve, but once it's done then we can start to make some short term tactical decisions about individual steps towards those goals. I believe that the idea summarized by "websites as a service to the rest of Fedora" makes a lot of sense, and I suppose we'll start the discussion there, and see what people think. :50 - :59 -- Review any specific action items for this week. ---- Please tell me if you think I've missed anything particularly important for this first meeting, or just share your general thoughts, concerns, etc. --Max From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 29 04:09:30 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:09:30 -0400 Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080429040930.GA6256@Max> On 2008-04-28 11:19:20 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > In response to Mike's blog post, I will put together an agenda and run a > Fedora Websites meeting on Wednesday, April 30th. I will plan to make this > a weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group that shows up. > > We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC > > date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' > > Is this ok with folks? +1 Thanks for doing this, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 04:10:52 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Call for a volunteer Message-ID: If we're going to have weekly IRC meetings, keep an agenda, etc. -- then we're going to need a secretary/program manager. This person will maintain the /Websites/Meetings page on the wiki, as well as the /Websites/Meetings/XXXX-YY-ZZ pages that have the Agenda and IRC log of each meeting, like many other Fedora sub-Projects do. I am more than happy to lead the meetings, but I'm already doing the leading and secretary duties for the CommunityArchitecture team, and therefore I'd like someone to help me out with the Websites stuff. Who'd like to do this? It is a *crucial* job. --Max From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 05:09:34 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:09:34 -0500 Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4816AD8E.6040701@gmail.com> Due to $nightjob, i'd be able to attend just the start of it, but I can be there. Max Spevack wrote: > In response to Mike's blog post, I will put together an agenda and run > a Fedora Websites meeting on Wednesday, April 30th. I will plan to > make this a weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group > that shows up. > > We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC > > date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' > > Is this ok with folks? > > --Max > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From kwade at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 06:35:09 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:35:09 -0700 Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1209450909.4278.31.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 23:19 -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > In response to Mike's blog post, I will put together an agenda and run a > Fedora Websites meeting on Wednesday, April 30th. I will plan to make > this a weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group that > shows up. > > We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC > > date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' > > Is this ok with folks? Since there is a consensus for this first one, so be it. In the future note that is the same time as the Docs meeting, and we have a bit of crossover of personnel. Well, mainly me. Perhaps just an hour later on the same day? I intend to continue with an active role in the Website team. Regardless, I don't think I'll be at either meeting this week. Field trip time![1] - Karsten [1] Evergreen Cemetery with the California History Class: http://images.google.com/images?q=evergreen%20cemetery%20santa%20cruz -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will plan to make this > a weekly occurance, with time/day to be chosen by the group that shows up. > > We will hold this meeting in #fedora-websites at 19:00 UTC > > date -d '2008-04-30 19:00 UTC' +1 for the time, I'll be there. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 29 11:21:17 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:21:17 +0100 Subject: Call for a volunteer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <507738ef0804290421x1bca649i5294888df50bce26@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/29 Max Spevack : > If we're going to have weekly IRC meetings, keep an agenda, etc. -- then > we're going to need a secretary/program manager. > > This person will maintain the /Websites/Meetings page on the wiki, as well > as the /Websites/Meetings/XXXX-YY-ZZ pages that have the Agenda and IRC log > of each meeting, like many other Fedora sub-Projects do. > > I am more than happy to lead the meetings, but I'm already doing the > leading and secretary duties for the CommunityArchitecture team, and > therefore I'd like someone to help me out with the Websites stuff. > > Who'd like to do this? It is a *crucial* job. I expect I can pick this up for you :) Best wishes, Jon > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Apr 29 14:26:50 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: starting regular fedora-websites meetings In-Reply-To: <1209450909.4278.31.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1209450909.4278.31.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > Since there is a consensus for this first one, so be it. In the > future note that is the same time as the Docs meeting, and we have a > bit of crossover of personnel. Well, mainly me. Perhaps just an hour > later on the same day? I intend to continue with an active role in > the Website team. We'll revisit the time question in the meeting, and try to pick a day/time that is best for everyone. Let's just stick with the current proposal for this Wednesday, since a lot of people already gave it a +1. But yes, Karsten, we'll try not to overlap the docs meeting in the future. --Max From prevueltas at amsystem.es Tue Apr 29 07:21:50 2008 From: prevueltas at amsystem.es (Pedro Revueltas) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:21:50 +0200 Subject: I have found a problem on the "Edit Account" section. Message-ID: <1209453710.6384.3.camel@marte> While I was setting up my new account, when I press the submit button on the "Edit Account" section I received: 500 Internal error The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request. -- Saludos, Pedro Revueltas Hidalgo prevueltas at amsystem.es ========================== AM System S.L. Avda. Ejercito Espa?ol, 22 23005 Ja?n Espa?a Tel. 953 275 931 Fax 953 261 425 www.amsystem.es ========================== From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 18:48:44 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:48:44 -0400 Subject: I have found a problem on the "Edit Account" section. In-Reply-To: <1209453710.6384.3.camel@marte> References: <1209453710.6384.3.camel@marte> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Pedro Revueltas wrote: > While I was setting up my new account, when I press the submit button on > the "Edit Account" section I received: > > 500 Internal error > The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from > fulfilling the request. > Hello Pedro, (Please disregard this if someone has already replied to your e-mail) This is a known issue with our wiki and I apologize for the inconvenience. Please try to create your wiki account again. Our current wiki is slated for replacement 'soon' , until then we are just living with it's problems. Thank you, -- Craig Thomas From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 29 21:23:55 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:23:55 -0400 Subject: I have found a problem on the "Edit Account" section. In-Reply-To: <1209453710.6384.3.camel@marte> References: <1209453710.6384.3.camel@marte> Message-ID: <20080429212355.GC6256@Max> On 2008-04-29 09:21:50 AM, Pedro Revueltas wrote: > While I was setting up my new account, when I press the submit button on > the "Edit Account" section I received: > > 500 Internal error > The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from > fulfilling the request. Just to make sure, were you talking about FAS or the wiki? Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do we have a date and time yet? > yeap its for 2008-04-30 19:00 UTC hope you can make it! -- Juan Camilo Prada From soldier at mycodedlife.com Wed Apr 30 04:15:16 2008 From: soldier at mycodedlife.com (Patrick Bolen) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:15:16 -0500 Subject: hello Message-ID: <4817F254.2000502@mycodedlife.com> I love fedora and I was wondering if maybe you had a link me button. I could use on my site I really enjoy Fedora Linux and I would like to link to the site. To show other users your great service. I can't really contribute like the big corps with huge money offers. But I can put a link to your website on my page. I really hope I can get an e-mail back from you. If you wish you can check out my website it's still in development. I haven't currently Put all the time I need into it yet. Sincerely Patrick Bolen From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 06:00:45 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:00:45 -0400 Subject: hello In-Reply-To: <4817F254.2000502@mycodedlife.com> References: <4817F254.2000502@mycodedlife.com> Message-ID: <1209535246.24162.12.camel@ignacio.lan> On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 23:15 -0500, Patrick Bolen wrote: > I love fedora and I was wondering if maybe you had a link me button. I > could use on my site I really enjoy Fedora Linux and I would like to > link to the site. To show other users your great service. I can't really > contribute like the big corps with huge money offers. But I can put a > link to your website on my page. I really hope I can get an e-mail back > from you. If you wish you can check out my website it's still in > development. I haven't currently Put all the time I need into it yet. Thank you for your inquiry. There are various resources available in the wiki[1]. If you have more specific requirements then you should get in contact with our Art team[2]. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The Spanish translation for the counter: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/es.tar.gz -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 30 15:42:32 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Reminder for today's meeting Message-ID: 2008-04-30 19:00 UTC in #fedora-websites Agenda: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-April/msg00384.html --Max From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 21:25:44 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:25:44 +0100 Subject: Meeting Log 2008-04-30 Message-ID: <507738ef0804301425sc2f0e99mb2343f876bd1837e@mail.gmail.com> Hey all, The minutes for the meeting can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Meetings/2008-04-30 And the matrix so we can find a time for next week's meeting is at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Meetings/Matrix Please fill it in :) I realised half-way through the minutes that I probably should have used the agenda to inform the headings - promise next week's will be a little better though (p.s. I'll take any tips I can get, never minuted before!) And finally, the IRC log is below. If someone could convert it to html for me and put it on the wiki minutes that'd be awesome - I can't get to irc2html myself just now. Best wishes, Jon ------------------------------- (07:56:59 PM) tw2113: MichaelBeckwith (07:57:00 PM) JonRob: JonRob here (07:57:04 PM) ricky: RickyZhou (07:57:08 PM) spevack: MaxSpevack (07:57:16 PM) giarc_w: CraigThomas (07:57:20 PM) spevack: mmcgrath: ping (07:57:50 PM) juank_prada: JuanCamiloPrada (07:57:55 PM) ivazquez: IgnacioVazquezAbrams (07:58:33 PM) spevack: I'm gonna wait a minute or two for mmcgrath, since it's important that he be here also. Then we'll get started. (07:58:47 PM) epkphoto [n=epkphoto at 129.21.233.244] entered the room. (07:58:51 PM) ricky: glezos: Are you around? (07:58:56 PM) spevack: thank you all for being here (07:58:58 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: pong (07:59:08 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: thank _you_ (07:59:19 PM) spevack: mmcgrath: didn't want to start without you (07:59:19 PM) ***ricky hopes that glezos will be able to help with some l10n decisions :-) (07:59:19 PM) glezos: ricky: I'm here (07:59:20 PM) spevack: ok. so let's roll... (07:59:22 PM) ricky: Ah, great. (07:59:25 PM) glezos: DimitrisGlezo (07:59:26 PM) glezos: s (07:59:30 PM) spevack: TOPIC 1: Current status of things, as related to the websites team and F9 (07:59:35 PM) spevack: i'll start with a few words (08:00:07 PM) spevack: I've been a *customer* of the Fedoraw Websites team for a while, but never really had too much insight into how it all happens myself. It always Just Happens, so let's talk about it, and lift the curtain from my eyes a bit too. (08:00:18 PM) spevack: What are the things that are coming together here for F9? (08:00:27 PM) spevack: I know we update the content on the non-wiki pages. (08:00:29 PM) spevack: what else? (08:00:35 PM) spevack: who's got the knowledge here to tell me what's going on (08:00:48 PM) mmcgrath: well I do. (08:01:02 PM) mmcgrath: so basically some things just happen (mostly thanks to ricky's self direction) (08:01:21 PM) mmcgrath: but there's lots of stuff that people want to have happen and its just not come together as a team yet. (08:01:26 PM) mmcgrath: So things for F9 are coming along. (08:01:35 PM) mmcgrath: I'm not sure if stuff is frozen for the translations team yet. (08:02:05 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: are you wanting to know about actual workflow? Or just a higher level view? (08:02:15 PM) spevack: mmcgrath: i want to talk about a few things. (08:02:35 PM) spevack: first, i want to talk specifically about F9 website content, and make sure that we're on target with whatever is already in the pipeline (08:02:44 PM) spevack: then, i want to raise the discussion up a level (08:02:46 PM) mmcgrath: ah, so there's really 3 aspects to our websites. (08:03:05 PM) mmcgrath: at the base layer is the infrastructure team. The proxy servers, caching ,etc. (08:03:08 PM) spevack: and understand the general processes we go through during non-release time, and then as we coordinate the websites around a release. (08:03:23 PM) spevack: right (08:03:29 PM) mmcgrath: Right above that is the code that creates our websites (typically a mix of infrastructure people and websites) and above that is the look and feel of the site. Which is typically the websites team. (08:03:34 PM) jmbuser [n=jmbuser at 195.229.24.83] entered the room. (08:03:43 PM) spevack: right. (08:03:47 PM) mmcgrath: So for this release I've requested a list of all the links we're going to give out in press releases and stuff. (08:03:55 PM) ricky: spevack: The process during non-release doesn't exist, and part of that is that we don't have a great process to handle l10n yet. (08:03:57 PM) mmcgrath: I'll be making sure those are cached in memory. But thats not really "website stuff" (08:04:07 PM) ricky: So as I mentioned, I'm always afraid that making a single change will bring translations out of sync. (08:04:10 PM) spevack: it's the interface of infrastructure and web. (08:04:44 PM) mmcgrath: ricky: glezos: do we have a deadline for when we need to string freeze the website? (08:04:44 PM) ivazquez: The non-release process is "someone suggests a change and someone else implements it". (08:04:44 PM) spevack: ok, so still mmcgrath, that's one need that you have. has that list been provided to you? (08:04:47 PM) ivazquez: It's duct tape and chewing gum. (08:04:49 PM) glezos: ricky: I think it's better to have correct information on the website rather than having 100% translations of faulty information. (08:04:56 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: there's actually a meeting about it later this week with releng, marketing, etc. (08:05:09 PM) spevack: ok. (08:05:21 PM) spevack: So item 1 -- the list of links and content that are most important, and making sure we can serve those up under heavy traffic. (08:05:24 PM) glezos: mmcgrath: looking (08:05:30 PM) ricky: glezos: The way I see it, it's not so much about faulty information as it is about new information (08:05:41 PM) glezos: mmcgrath: juding by the content volume I'd say 4-5 days translation period. (08:05:56 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: and really thats not a websites concern. They may put some of that content up, and design what it looks like but its more releng and marketing to decide what canonical links to give out. (08:06:26 PM) spevack: mmcgrath: fair enough... so let's assume for a moment, from the perspective of this meeting, that the list exists. (08:06:28 PM) mmcgrath: just because its releng and marketing that actually do the releases. (08:06:30 PM) mmcgrath: (08:06:33 PM) spevack: What *is* important to Websites Team is the *content* on those pages. (08:06:37 PM) glezos: ricky: if it's a whole page or sections it's less of a problem than little changes here and there. So the whole website will look ok except one page, which will gradually get more translations. (08:06:47 PM) mmcgrath: AFAIK the F9 content is in good shape, its just not that different from the F8 content. (08:07:14 PM) spevack: I assume we will be updating the get-fedora and home pages. (08:07:16 PM) mmcgrath: numbers and code names change. (08:07:16 PM) mmcgrath: (08:07:16 PM) mmcgrath: ricky: do we have the F9 site up somewhere to look at right now? (08:07:20 PM) ricky: mmcgrath: http://publictest10.fedoraproject.org/ (08:07:31 PM) giarc_w: we have verify page we want up for f9 as well (lots or requests for that post f8 launch) (08:07:36 PM) ricky: Still need to add jigdo links on get-fedora. (08:07:39 PM) giarc_w: *of (08:07:51 PM) mmcgrath: ricky: thanks. (08:07:56 PM) spevack: ok... so I ask all of you now... are there any big things needed for the immediate release of F9 that we need to handle in this meeting, or shall we move to the next topic? (08:08:13 PM) ricky: glezos: That's probably the right priority to go with, but a set process would definitely make it easier on us :) (08:08:21 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: AFAIK, not for F9 (08:08:54 PM) tw2113: screenshots? (08:08:56 PM) mmcgrath: no big things anyway (08:08:56 PM) tw2113: i noticed we still have the old ones (08:08:56 PM) mmcgrath: tw2113: ahh, good catch. (08:08:56 PM) mmcgrath: ricky: who provided those last time? (08:08:56 PM) ricky: tw2113: Good point, those were kind of last-minute for F8. Is most of the final artwork in rawhide yet? (08:08:56 PM) ivazquez: It is. (08:09:01 PM) ricky: mmcgrath: I did, day of the release, I think :) (08:09:03 PM) tw2113: i believe all the final artwork is in (08:09:19 PM) ***tw2113 has his desktop screenshot up on the site (08:09:21 PM) spevack: ok, so if the world isn't burning down for F9, then I think we can trust that the websites content for this release is pretty much good to go, and move the conversation to a larger topic. (08:09:21 PM) mmcgrath: ricky: hah, yeah lets make sure to get those ahead of time. (08:09:21 PM) jmbuser left the room ("Leaving"). (08:09:39 PM) ***ivazquez was there when halfline requested the wave artwork for inclusion (08:09:41 PM) tw2113: i'll provide a default desktop screenshot again if you want (08:09:56 PM) spevack: I'm going to say what I think is important, and then I'd like some of you guys to tell me what you think is important. (08:10:07 PM) spevack: From my point of view, overall, the Fedora Websites team needs to do a few things: (08:10:12 PM) ricky: Cool, then who should I contact about getting those? I should still remember the method that I used (not Xnest, but Xephyr) (08:10:44 PM) tw2113: i'll work with you on it tonight and tomorrow ricky (08:10:48 PM) ricky: tw2113: OK, thanks (08:11:12 PM) spevack: 1) Have new content around the releases (08:11:51 PM) spevack: 2) Work with artwork and infrastructure to provide a service to various other parts of fedora (08:12:02 PM) spevack: 3) take ownership of the layout and look and feel for *.fedoraproject.org (08:12:21 PM) spevack: and around all three of those points (08:12:27 PM) iWolf [n=jft at fedora/iWolf] entered the room. (08:12:38 PM) spevack: is the question of what workflow and processes we have, and what workflow and processes we need to help track things, make things more efficient, etc. (08:13:01 PM) ***mmcgrath agrees on those 3 points. (08:13:03 PM) spevack: what do you guys think? There was a lot of talk on the mailing list, it seemed, about the larger vision that Fedora Websites needs to have (08:13:07 PM) ***spevack will shut up and listen now (08:13:12 PM) juank_prada: spevack: from all those points its that comes the whole discussion that leads to this meeting (08:13:48 PM) tw2113: i'm no exception, but we have a lot of people throwing ideas around, but no one creating actual visuals of those ideas (08:13:51 PM) spevack: ricky: i have a question for you. (08:13:58 PM) mmcgrath: Right now there's a workflow for making changes. But not a workflow for really... accepting what changes get made. (08:14:30 PM) giarc_w: right, there is no peer review or 'approval', changes just in or they don't (08:14:47 PM) mmcgrath: which is a common problem in Fedora for teams. Actual decision making is fuzzy. (08:15:22 PM) juank_prada: the problem comes when those new ideas are discarded because of the lack of that review or approval (08:15:23 PM) ***JonRob brb, it sounds like my wall is collapsing :S (08:15:31 PM) spevack: one of the things that i like about Fedora Websites is its speed and flexibility (08:15:32 PM) tw2113: mentally, i'd really like to get some loose ends on my side of things tied up, and then actually start actively helping create on the website team (08:15:35 PM) spevack: if i want a change made to redhat.com, it takes me a week. (08:15:44 PM) juank_prada: then the website hangs for a long time unchanged with the same content and makes it almost useless (08:15:45 PM) spevack: if i want a change made to fedoraproject.org, it is usually done in a few hours. (08:16:06 PM) tw2113: how many people do we have actually making the changes spevack ? (08:16:11 PM) spevack: i don't know (08:16:11 PM) giarc_w: that speed is nice and important to keep i think (08:16:31 PM) spevack: whenever i need something done, I ask ricky (08:16:35 PM) ***mmcgrath looks at how many people can access it. (08:16:50 PM) ivazquez: I think we have only about 3 people making changes. (08:16:59 PM) giarc_w: there are a small handful who actually commit content changes (08:17:01 PM) ricky: mmcgrath: 38 (08:17:04 PM) ivazquez: Excluding tfx, of course. (08:17:05 PM) tw2113: this may just be my naivety overall, but the two people who i know actually making changes are ricky and mmcgrath (08:17:13 PM) tw2113: well, paul too (08:17:14 PM) mmcgrath: So all of these people have access to make changes to the web. (08:17:16 PM) mmcgrath: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/dump/web (08:17:17 PM) tw2113: just remembered (08:17:23 PM) ivazquez: And myself. (08:17:25 PM) ricky: ivazquez: Good point, 37 or 36, then. (08:17:28 PM) ***mmcgrath tries not to make changes ever... has no idea what he's doing with css and html :) (08:17:31 PM) ivazquez: Although not recently. (08:18:08 PM) spevack: ok, so let me ask a simple question that can be +1 or -1'd (08:18:40 PM) spevack: Is one of the priorities of this team to "build a more formal process around editing content on *.fp.o while also not losing our flexibitiy to act quickly?" (08:18:49 PM) ricky: +1 (08:18:51 PM) giarc_w: +1 (08:18:55 PM) juank_prada: +1 (08:18:55 PM) mmcgrath: +1 (08:18:58 PM) glezos: +1 (08:19:00 PM) ivazquez: How formal? (08:19:05 PM) mmcgrath: just "more" (08:19:06 PM) spevack: ivazquez: not for me to say (08:19:15 PM) epkphoto: +1 (08:19:16 PM) ivazquez: +1 then. (08:19:16 PM) tw2113: 1+ (08:19:21 PM) tw2113: :D (08:19:21 PM) mmcgrath: something other then just "ricky and ivazquez sort of do it or they don't" (08:19:21 PM) giarc_w: right, just more, so we *have* a process (08:19:21 PM) Rasther: +1 (08:19:27 PM) juank_prada: ivazquez: at least a process because whe lack of one (08:19:46 PM) giarc_w: nothing too complex, or anything (08:20:03 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: and there's two parts to that. (08:20:12 PM) mmcgrath: 1) making changes (you or paul comes in and says "I need this) (08:20:14 PM) mmcgrath: and (08:20:17 PM) mmcgrath: 2) overhauls. (08:20:35 PM) juank_prada: i agree with mmcgrath (08:20:38 PM) mmcgrath: and its 2) I think that juank_prada has something in mind for and we've only done it one other time in the history of my being here IIRC. (08:20:51 PM) mmcgrath: and it was when we created the website as a way to avoid wiki breakdowns. (08:21:12 PM) mmcgrath: so there was no real process, I think we just went to some people like mizmo, got something together. I put some requirements on it (size wise, etc) and it just went though. (08:21:20 PM) giarc_w: overhauls seem to involve lots of other teams, art, marketing and infra so we probably really need process to handle bopth (08:21:22 PM) mmcgrath: now though we've been wanting to make all the websites look the same. (08:21:47 PM) tw2113: cohesive looks +1 (08:22:04 PM) juank_prada: but we still need to know which one is the look and feel wer are going to use... (08:22:13 PM) mmcgrath: we all want the sites to look the same (there's been a ticket open for a year now) but without the process its been a non-starter. (08:22:26 PM) ***spevack is being pulled away for about 2 mins... keep talking, i'll read backward (08:22:57 PM) glezos: mmcgrath: I believe we have went a good way towards that goal so far. I remember our websites a year ago and everything was completely different than each other. (08:23:03 PM) ricky: mmcgrath: If we already have know the look, then I don't think it needs a process - it's just a simple task. (08:23:56 PM) juank_prada: ricky: the process is still needed in order to do that overhaul to the website (08:24:08 PM) mmcgrath: well how do we get the workerbees in to actually make everything look the same then? (08:24:14 PM) giarc_w: i would agree with ricky, once we do know, but how do we decide? (08:24:19 PM) ricky: juank_prada: I was referring to the theming, not the overhaul. (08:24:21 PM) mmcgrath: well here's a question (I'll ask for a +1 or -1) (08:24:27 PM) juank_prada: ok (08:24:48 PM) mmcgrath: "We should change the look of the primary website as what we have now should be changed, even if it is just a little bit) (08:24:52 PM) ***spevack reads backwards... sorry (08:25:16 PM) mmcgrath: so +1 or -1? (08:25:18 PM) ***giarc_w does not understand the question ? (08:25:30 PM) ***juank_prada is not sure to understand either (08:25:32 PM) ivazquez: "Should" is a bit loaded. (08:25:35 PM) ricky: giarc_w: Should we change the theme on fp.o? (08:25:43 PM) mmcgrath: So what we have at http://fedoraproject.org/ is whats there. We've had people propose an overhaul to it. (08:25:55 PM) mmcgrath: do we want to leave http://fedoraproject.org/ or do we want to change it? (08:26:08 PM) ivazquez: At least "more" in the previous question had a single direction. "Should" fuzzes it too much. (08:26:08 PM) mmcgrath: because as http://fedoraproject.org/ goes, so goes the rest of our sites. (08:26:13 PM) ***tw2113 points to the recent Suse website talk (08:26:19 PM) juank_prada: the thing is an overhaul doesnt really mean that we need to change the look of the website (08:26:22 PM) spevack: ok... I have caught up. (08:26:24 PM) tw2113: the 3 button front page (08:26:36 PM) juank_prada: and thats the whole idea of CSS thing (08:26:46 PM) spevack: let me share my perspective. (08:26:47 PM) ivazquez: A better question is "If we want to change the site, do we have a definite direction we want to move in?". (08:26:56 PM) juank_prada: we can pretty much add content to the site without altering the look of it (08:27:03 PM) spevack: there are folks here who don't remember the Old Days of Fedora Website Doom (08:27:09 PM) ricky: And that's where I start to worry about translations. (08:27:14 PM) ricky: ^(content) (08:27:16 PM) spevack: we had fedora.redhat.com (which was never updated and had horrible content) (08:27:20 PM) glezos: I'm -1 for overhaul, at least until we have a thorough study on how they should look. There are some minor fixes I'd suggest, though, like decreasing the font size a bit in the menu. (08:27:24 PM) spevack: and we had fedoraproject.org, which was only the wiki. (08:27:37 PM) spevack: The "current" version of fedoraproject.org was born out of two desires by me: (08:27:51 PM) tw2113: I'm +1 for an overall as a long term goal (08:27:52 PM) spevack: 1) To kill fedora.redhat.com and remove all fedora content from Red Hat machines (08:27:53 PM) spevack: and (08:28:04 PM) spevack: 2) to have a few static pages that could sit above the wiki and provide a more professional look to our site. (08:28:09 PM) tw2113: F10 to F11 timeframe (08:28:12 PM) spevack: So... (08:28:26 PM) spevack: now we also have planet, docs, fedorahosted, etc. (08:28:39 PM) spevack: lots of other sites that are in the Fedora world, and it would be nice to get a unified look and feel there. (08:28:39 PM) glezos: spevack: +mirrors, transifex (08:28:51 PM) spevack: So that people can just realize "hey, this is a Fedora Property" (08:29:19 PM) spevack: A common look and feel, as mmcgrath says, can only come after there is a consensus of *what* that look and feel should be (08:29:24 PM) tw2113: this topic reminds me of my alma mater (08:29:32 PM) spevack: some people like really minimal websites (08:29:35 PM) tw2113: they're still in the process of updating the entire span of the website (08:29:36 PM) giarc_w: -1 to overhaul look and feel until we have at least caught up with making that 'hey, this is fedora' realization a reality (08:29:40 PM) spevack: there's a million ideas for how to do a website. (08:29:44 PM) juank_prada: spevack: in order to accomplish the idea of the static page there should be information to be displayed in it... right now the website lacks of information and all of it is being held in the wiki which makes havin fp.o a lack of resources and a domain (08:29:47 PM) tw2113: and it's been a year long process (08:29:48 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/rhold/ :) (08:29:49 PM) spevack: and i've been in enough meetings to realize that most of them are ratholes (08:30:27 PM) spevack: there are a few key questions, IMHO (08:30:36 PM) spevack: and all design or engineering decisions come from the answers to those questions (08:30:46 PM) spevack: 1) what information do we want to give? (08:30:52 PM) spevack: 2) how often do we want to update information? (08:30:58 PM) spevack: 3) who do we want updating information? (08:31:15 PM) spevack: let me be honest with you all... (08:31:28 PM) spevack: i'm not really sure the best way to wrap my head around this problem. (08:31:33 PM) juank_prada: if you allow me to answer those questions, ill try to do so from the point of view of a user (08:31:42 PM) spevack: juank_prada: go ahead (08:32:22 PM) juank_prada: 1) if the users look for the primary site of a project (in this case fp.o) what he is looking for is primary information about the project (08:32:58 PM) juank_prada: also, information about the state of the project, what thing are being donte, what is the difference between this project and some other (08:34:05 PM) ***mmcgrath never goes to suse or ubuntu's website for information about their projects.. I always go to download ubuntu or suse. (08:34:10 PM) juank_prada: if that information catch his attention he will start digging in the site looking for more specific information, wich my lead to a user looking for how to join or how to install/use fedora (08:34:26 PM) ivazquez: How do you feel that we succeed on that account? (08:34:46 PM) ivazquez: s/succeed/do/ (08:35:02 PM) juank_prada: i dont really think that we are succeeding. (08:35:04 PM) spevack: Well, look, I think there are a few fairly distinct areas of work that we need to be operating in. (08:35:14 PM) spevack: (1) Displaying appropriate content and information on our websites. (08:35:19 PM) tw2113: gotta go, cya all in the marketing meeting tomorrow :) (08:35:21 PM) spevack: (2) Theme and look and feel of *.fedoraproject.org (08:35:27 PM) ricky: tw2113: Thanks for coming (08:35:32 PM) spevack: (3) Process around getting changes (either trivial or large) made. (08:35:32 PM) giarc_w: ciao tw2113 (08:35:46 PM) ricky: Content seems to be the big discussion right now (08:35:57 PM) giarc_w: yeah, i agree, content is king (08:35:58 PM) juank_prada: as i said before most of the information is on the wiki, which makes having fp.o useless as at the end a user looking for information wont stay on fp.o, instead he will be going to the wiki (08:36:00 PM) JonRob: theme and look and feel is informed by content (08:36:04 PM) glezos: ricky: thankfully we've got a few examples we could look at, I guess. (08:36:12 PM) spevack: From the perspective of attacking all of these things simultaneously, I think we need to be able to have some leaders in each of those categories. (08:36:55 PM) tw2113: just a note: content is king. you can style a pile of poo 3 ways to sunday and throw some glitter on it to top it off, but in the end it's still poo. get good content (08:37:13 PM) giarc_w: juank_prada, if the user finds information on the wiki by using the website, how is that a useless web site? (08:37:23 PM) giarc_w: seems to have worked to me (08:37:33 PM) spevack: here's the other key question -- Who Makes The Final Decision? (08:37:34 PM) ivazquez: juank_prada: Can you point to specific failure points? (08:37:59 PM) spevack: Before we start working on a bunch of different visions for content on fp.o, who is going to make the call of what we go with in the end? Does Fedora need a "webmaster"? (08:38:00 PM) juank_prada: giarc_w: the problem is how many clicks a user need to do in order to reach information... in web engineering that one of the things to deal with (08:38:28 PM) ***mmcgrath is under the constant opinion that the wiki is not to be trusted, is confusing and suffers from a complete lack of any vision whatsoever. (08:38:33 PM) spevack: Someone that the websites team trusts to sort of be the decision-maker from a content point of view, and someone (probably someone else) who can be the decision maker from a technical point of view. (08:38:40 PM) glezos: spevack: judging by the work/discussions we've done so far and the progress seen, this big task sounds like a good idea for a workshop at FUDCon. (08:38:47 PM) spevack: glezos: yeah (08:39:11 PM) glezos: ie. a get-together attack instead of many distributed people working on different tasks. (08:39:12 PM) juank_prada: ivazquez: one would be the information about spins... in the get fedora section we point to the mirrors to download spins.. but we never said ther what are those, or whats the difference of those spins (08:39:17 PM) ivazquez: mmcgrath: Perhaps then we need to do away with huge swaths of the wiki and make them static content instead. (08:39:34 PM) spevack: When people come to the Fedora website, there are two things that I want them to be able to do. (08:39:35 PM) mmcgrath: ivazquez: I think there was a plan for that but no manpower to do it. (08:39:39 PM) spevack: 1) GET FEDORA (08:39:41 PM) ricky: juank_prada: There was talk of having an explanatory spins.fp.o, but that never materialized :( (08:39:42 PM) spevack: 2) JOIN FEDORA (08:39:52 PM) spevack: we've done a good job of making that a reality. (08:40:01 PM) MostafaDaneshvar [n=Mostafa at 217.219.95.36] entered the room. (08:40:27 PM) spevack: i think that the vision that was spins.fp.o is exactly what "GET FEDORA" should become. (08:40:31 PM) mmcgrath: ricky: and spins never came about because no one ever gave us templates to incorporate. No worker beers. (08:40:34 PM) mmcgrath: err worker bees. (08:40:40 PM) JonRob: heh (08:40:51 PM) spevack: well, there are a lot of people in this meeting. (08:40:54 PM) spevack: obviously a lot of people who care. (08:41:00 PM) ***mmcgrath would have done that.... but it would have come out terrible. (08:41:06 PM) glezos: brb in 5 (08:41:07 PM) glezos is now known as glezos_afk (08:41:11 PM) spevack: let me put it this way... (08:41:48 PM) juank_prada: mmcgrath: mizmo did a great job on some templates to be used for spins.fedoraproject.org but as ivazquez said it never materialized (08:42:01 PM) ivazquez: mmcgrath: How it looks is unimportant in the grand scheme of things. (08:42:08 PM) spevack: If I were the King of Fedora, and I could just present a vision and make it happen instantly, I focus all me efforts on making it as simple as possible for people to join fedora (which we've been doing well) and in making it as simple as possible for people to see all the different Fedora spins that exist, and then have a mechanism to either download them or build them on their own. (08:42:21 PM) mmcgrath: juank_prada: nope, no templates were ever given to me. Just mockups. There was one person on that team that kept saying "I'll get you the templates" but I never got a thing. (08:43:18 PM) daMaestro left the room (quit: "Leaving"). (08:43:21 PM) giarc_w: I think that if we distrust the wiki, we should identify the info we want from the wiki and make those pages static so there is tighter control of it's message to users (08:43:32 PM) juank_prada: mmcgrath: i can work on it on this weekend (08:43:36 PM) spevack: Ok... we can talk in circles all day. But here's my leadership/management style. It's to ask who is willing to commit to a specific action. (08:44:05 PM) JonRob: spevack: you beat me to that very question! (08:44:06 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: sounds like juank_prada just committed (please correct me if I'm wrong) (08:44:16 PM) spevack: and then to make sure that those actions all tie together to a unified vision (08:44:31 PM) spevack: juank_prada: so, what exactly are you going to take a look at and work on? (08:44:36 PM) juank_prada: mmcgrath: you are right... ill start working on the spins layout (08:44:38 PM) mmcgrath: but really juank_prada seems to be a guy that has a vision for the website, and has even built some mockups. (08:44:56 PM) spevack: great -- that's exactly the sort of design leadership that we're looking for. (08:44:58 PM) mmcgrath: juank_prada: do you have access to the web repo btw? (08:45:18 PM) spevack: ok, so one item for next week's agenda is to let juank_prada present his vision and show us whatever mockups he has built. (08:45:26 PM) juank_prada: i think ricky gave me access although ive never had the time to commit any changes until now (08:45:35 PM) spevack: two -- ricky, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like most actual process stuff tends to flow through you right now. (08:45:38 PM) mmcgrath: juank_prada: k, ping me in here or #fedora-admin if you have any questions. (08:45:40 PM) spevack: is that right? (08:45:49 PM) ricky: spevack: Yeah. (08:45:52 PM) juank_prada: mmcgrath: ok... :) (08:46:16 PM) ricky: But that ends up amounting to relatively little, to be honest. (08:46:26 PM) spevack: ricky: so, do you want to be in charge of doing whatever you think is right to make the actual change processes more scalable, better, etc. Basically taking ownership of being the interface between Infrastructure and Websites? (08:47:00 PM) ricky: Sure thing (and l10n too) (08:47:09 PM) spevack: ricky: this comes with no mandates from me, other than to acknowledge that everyone looks at you as The Guy Who Gets Stuff Done on The Website and to make sure you have the power to construct those processes however you like. (08:47:59 PM) spevack: ok, so how about for next week you be ready to share with us wha tyou think is good, or where you think we need to make improvements (08:48:11 PM) ***spevack keeps having his irc connection hang on him... very annoying (08:48:42 PM) juank_ [n=juanky at 200.114.38.35] entered the room. (08:48:45 PM) spevack: ok, what else? mmcgrath, anything else that was on your mind that we haven't touched on yet? (08:48:53 PM) spevack: i don't expect to solve everything today, but I want to see us moving forward. (08:48:56 PM) juank_: sorry guys... internet crashed :S (08:49:03 PM) ricky: OK. There are two main things preventing us from having more freedom with content - first, a unified vision for content, and then the process for getting it in. (08:49:12 PM) ricky: What can we do to resolve these? (08:49:31 PM) JonRob: we could do like the art team does for art work, re: vision for content (08:49:34 PM) giarc_w: ricky, are you including getting translated content in those 2? (08:49:35 PM) spevack: Here's the thing, folks... all of us can have visions for the website, but we have to have a couple of people who are empowered to actually build up test instances, let people play with things, etc. We need some web engineers. (08:49:36 PM) JonRob: or maybe that's over kill (08:49:41 PM) ricky: giarc_w: That's the process. (08:49:54 PM) spevack: Do we need to do some recruiting? (08:50:08 PM) juank_: that would be good (08:50:12 PM) ricky: juank_prada: I've seen some really insightful discussions about content on the marketing/art lists. (08:50:18 PM) ricky: juank_prada: Oops, I mean JonRob (08:50:37 PM) mmcgrath: recruiting is good, it might be best to make sure we have something for people to do and that it can get put through the process before we ask people to come though. (08:50:40 PM) JonRob: yeah, i know the ones you mean ricky (08:50:53 PM) ivazquez: Perhaps we should get Marketing involved in content generation. (08:51:00 PM) giarc_w: ivazquez, +1 (08:51:04 PM) JonRob: ok: here's my suggestion (08:51:05 PM) juank_: ivazquez: +1 (08:51:12 PM) giarc_w: and or docs writers (08:51:27 PM) spevack: JonRob: go! (08:51:35 PM) JonRob: we take this week to discuss with marketing and artwork, and anyone else who's interested, to get some visions for what the websites need to become (08:51:36 PM) ricky: +1 (08:51:47 PM) JonRob: it doesn't matter if we get one or several (08:51:50 PM) JonRob: but to get some ideas (08:52:07 PM) JonRob: we can talk about this next week and either a) figure which one we'd like to pick up and run with (08:52:23 PM) JonRob: it doesn't matter if it follows the original spec perfectly, release early and often etc :) (08:52:30 PM) ivazquez: Absolutely. We're capable of doing the implementation, but without the ideas there's no point. (08:52:34 PM) JonRob: or we can run with several and wittle it down as we go (08:52:52 PM) spevack: So, sorry if I'm repeating myself, but let me ask this question: (08:53:03 PM) spevack: Is what we lack a VISION FOR CONTENT, or PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY DO WORK, or both? (08:53:10 PM) ricky: Both, and a clear process. (08:53:16 PM) ricky: So we have a lot of work to do :-) (08:53:21 PM) epkphoto: both, especially the clear process part (08:53:25 PM) juank_: i agree with ricky (08:53:26 PM) ivazquez: More the former from my POV. (08:53:31 PM) JonRob: i think with a vision would come more people to help (08:53:37 PM) spevack: ok, well I've appointed Ricky "process guy". (08:53:42 PM) giarc_w: vision, i think...it seems we have the hands to implement (08:53:50 PM) mmcgrath: spevack: really we're looking at the last remnance of the way things used to be... One or two people just doing the work. its like starting the websites team from scratch again. (08:53:58 PM) spevack: juank_ has indicated that he wants to present at least one vision of Content (08:54:10 PM) mmcgrath: stuff is getting done, but its because of the dedication of the individuals on the team, not the team itself. We need to move to a team environment. (08:54:20 PM) ivazquez: We've shown in the past that we can get the work done... when there's work to be done. (08:54:29 PM) spevack: mmcgrath: *nod* (08:54:56 PM) spevack: well look, if we're basically rebooting the Fedora Websites team (08:55:09 PM) spevack: we need the interface to Infrastructure (ricky) (08:55:15 PM) spevack: We need an interface to Artwork (???) (08:55:26 PM) ricky: mizmo? (08:55:29 PM) couf: Docs here (08:55:36 PM) spevack: mizmo would make sense (08:55:48 PM) ricky: quaid + couf? (08:55:50 PM) mmcgrath: we probably shouldn't volunteer her without her being here though. (08:55:55 PM) ***abadger1999 has been watching the wrong channel :-( (08:56:14 PM) mmcgrath: ianweller might be another one. (08:56:15 PM) giarc_w: tw2113, maybe as well (08:56:20 PM) ricky: mmcgrath: Ah, true. (08:56:30 PM) ianweller: hmm? (08:56:30 PM) ***ianweller wakes up (08:56:35 PM) ivazquez: We have no shortage of Art people in the Websites team. (08:56:45 PM) spevack: I think we can get all sorts of good art. (08:56:50 PM) giarc_w: (or infra) (08:57:18 PM) juank_: but we first need to tell them what exactly is what should be done.. and that will only happens after knowing what kind of info will be shown (08:57:33 PM) ivazquez: Infra is more tightly defined though, so having a single Infra POC is a good idea. (08:57:34 PM) spevack: juank_: and you're going to present us with a vision for that next week, right? (08:57:42 PM) mmcgrath: (08:57:50 PM) mmcgrath: ricky: its up to you, do you want to be primary infra POC or should I? (08:57:53 PM) ***mmcgrath doesn't care. (08:58:26 PM) ianweller: is this a meeting right now? (08:58:28 PM) juank_: spevack: ill work on spins section... and i already did a change to the first page on fp.o to manage some other content (08:58:39 PM) giarc_w: ianweller, yep (08:58:39 PM) spevack: juank_: excellent. (08:58:50 PM) ricky: mmcgrath: Sure - it'll be good to have two people :) (08:59:44 PM) ***ricky suddenly wonders about news.fedoraproject.org (08:59:46 PM) spevack: ok, what else do you guys want to talk about? Do people feel like we've made any progress in this hour? At least identified a few issues and started to carve out some ownership (08:59:59 PM) JonRob: ricky: progres is being made :) (09:00:13 PM) ricky: Eeeexcellent :) (09:00:15 PM) juank_: somebody to help ricky would be good... as he pointed in the ml he was very busy with FAS2 so ther should be somebody else so ricky dont get overwhelmed with tasks (09:00:53 PM) ricky: juank_: +1! (09:01:00 PM) giarc_w: i'll over to help, where ever I can, just point me (09:01:03 PM) giarc_w: offer (09:01:04 PM) ivazquez: I can help with the VCS part, but I don't know the metal that well. (09:01:04 PM) spevack: I have one more question (09:01:12 PM) spevack: actually, no i don't (09:01:16 PM) spevack: i think we have enough swirling right now (09:01:25 PM) mmcgrath: juank_: yeah, ricky and I will just keep the lines open with eachother. Ricky's off to college soon too so I suspect he doesn't quite know how much free time is in his future :) (09:01:26 PM) ricky: I should start to be more open with the process on the ml (and with asking people to do stuff) (09:01:34 PM) ianweller: so do we need a point of contact for artwork? (09:01:39 PM) ricky: Yeah :) (09:01:52 PM) giarc_w: i have a question about translations: what are we planning to do with new pages that do not have translations? (09:01:54 PM) ivazquez: And maybe we should have one for Marketing as well. (09:02:07 PM) spevack: Who will be at FUDCon boston? (09:02:08 PM) ***ricky (09:02:09 PM) giarc_w: should they wait, or do in (09:02:11 PM) giarc_w: ? (09:02:14 PM) giarc_w: go (09:02:21 PM) ***ivazquez nominates juank_ for the Marketing POC (09:02:29 PM) ricky: giarc_w: At this point, I'm with go in. (09:02:39 PM) giarc_w: ok (09:02:41 PM) ianweller: i'd be willing to be an artwork POC, you could ask tw2113 too, and make sure you let mizmo know (09:02:42 PM) ricky: giarc_w: But I'd feel much better if I could put it in and know that it'd be translated within say, 2 weeks. (09:03:09 PM) ricky: ianweller: We should probably email a few lists about this soon (09:03:10 PM) giarc_w: how can we do that ? (09:03:18 PM) juank_: i wouldnt mind to be the Marketing POC if you all agree with that (09:03:36 PM) couf: juank_: hired (09:03:36 PM) juank_prada left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). (09:03:38 PM) JonRob: no problems here :) (09:03:38 PM) giarc_w: +1 for juank_ POC with marketing (09:03:38 PM) MostafaDaneshvar left the room ("Konversation terminated!"). (09:03:38 PM) ricky: giarc_w: One idea that I mentioned was a sort of website translation cycle that l10n would be aware of (although I'm not sure how much that could affect our speed/flexibility) (09:04:30 PM) spevack: ok... so I think we're about ready to adjourn the official part of this meeting, though everyone can keep talking. JonRob... about that volunteering to be secretary? Will you get a log posted and also glean out of it the various action items that we have? (09:04:41 PM) JonRob: yep (09:04:47 PM) JonRob: lol is the only reason i'm here really!! (09:04:47 PM) ricky: Important thing: Next meeting time? (09:04:53 PM) spevack: JonRob: thank you -- i cannot tell you how much i appreciate that. (09:04:55 PM) ricky: We're on top of a docs meeting now, I think. (09:04:58 PM) ricky: JonRob: Thanks! (09:05:11 PM) JonRob: np - good excuse for avoiding essay writing :p (09:05:50 PM) ricky: So wednesdays are really good for me, except for 20:10 - 21:30 UTC or so. (09:06:11 PM) ricky: What other days/times are convenient for everybody? (09:06:27 PM) juank_: i cant really do on wednesday... i rather mondays o fridays ... (today was an exception) (09:06:39 PM) ianweller: i have school and usually i can pop in IRC about 20:00-21:00 UTC on weekdays. (09:06:53 PM) ianweller: any time before that is impossible for me (09:07:02 PM) JonRob: shall i set up a matrix on the wiki? or is that overkill? (09:07:08 PM) JonRob: i know it works for docs (09:07:20 PM) ***giarc_w is pretty flexible and will be able to make most any time (09:07:23 PM) ricky: JonRob: That'd be great, can you post a link along with the meeting log? (09:07:30 PM) ***ricky actually has to run now, since it's almost 20:10 :) (09:07:41 PM) JonRob: yep...hopefully all should be up later tonight (09:07:49 PM) ianweller: cool (09:08:09 PM) ricky: All right, then - thanks a lot, everybody. (09:08:14 PM) JonRob: though if anyone wants to let me know how to do the irc to html conversion so it looks swish on the wiki that'd be cool (09:08:18 PM) ricky: spevack: and thanks for stepping up to make this happen1 (09:08:44 PM) JonRob: yep - you guys got some good work done this eve, congrats to all (09:08:44 PM) spevack: ricky: well, i'll drive these meetings for the forseeable future. If there's one skill I have, it's repeating "who's doing X" over and over again :) (09:08:45 PM) couf: JonRob: talk to jmbuser he knows how it works (09:08:55 PM) spevack: so is there a plan to figure out the next meeting time? (09:09:00 PM) ricky: JonRob: Sending the log to the mailing list is convenient. (09:09:01 PM) JonRob: couf: thanks (09:09:09 PM) JonRob: ricky: i'll do both (09:09:10 PM) ricky: (Infrastructure does that + a link to the ml post from the wiki) (09:09:29 PM) ricky: spevack: So far, it looks like wiki matrix + boucing times around on the ml (09:09:33 PM) ricky: JonRob: Thanks a lot (09:09:35 PM) spevack: ok (09:09:57 PM) spevack: ok, well we'll see you all next week... and I'll be hounding folks on the ML who accepted action items. :) (09:10:02 PM) spevack: Thanks for coming, all (09:10:08 PM) spevack: ============ adjourned ============== From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 22:14:52 2008 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:14:52 -0400 Subject: Meeting Log 2008-04-30 In-Reply-To: <507738ef0804301425sc2f0e99mb2343f876bd1837e@mail.gmail.com> References: <507738ef0804301425sc2f0e99mb2343f876bd1837e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > And finally, the IRC log is below. If someone could convert it to html > for me and put it on the wiki minutes that'd be awesome - I can't get > to irc2html myself just now. > Thank you Jon. I have converted the log to html, but I have not placed it on the wiki, as none of markup options for irclog2html.py are compatible with wiki syntax. Do other teams post their IRC logs this way? wondering what tool they use to generate wiki markup? Cheers, -- Craig -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rforkner1 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 30 23:56:57 2008 From: rforkner1 at hotmail.com (Richard Forkner) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:56:57 -0400 Subject: Installing programs, and dependencies Message-ID: Dear sir, First off I really like the look and feel of fc8. I'm haveing some problems trying to get any RPM's to load. My computer is 1.8 GHz processor with 512 Mb RAM. One example is I tried to load gdkxft and it came back with dependency error and wouldn't load. 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