meeting minutes from last night

[Asgeir Frimannsson]

On Wednesday 20 August 2008 05:00:30 Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Máirín Duffy <duffy at fedoraproject.org> 
wrote:
> >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/My%20Fedora/html/
> >>
> >> It inherits from the existing fedoraproject.org css which i think is
> >> important...
> >
> > My version was first inheriting from fedoraproject as well bus is now
> > made from scratch because the left menu was hard to give a background
> > using the existing style.css from fp.
>
> Mine does inherit from the fedoraproject.org master CSS and has the tabs.
>
> > @Karsten 'quaid' Wade
> > And (again) for amber. The frame around the amber layout is gonna be
> > generic for all of fedora (or that's the idea) and that's what you can
> > see live now at: http://amber.mageprojects.com/ the only thing i have
> > to finish there before the frame is done is the left menu. the rest is
> > about done for the generic frame.
> >
> > And this is how it should look when i'm done for amber:
> > http://yipyop.com/fedora/images/fedora_apps.png
>
> So I'm working on the basic layout including the tabs on the left, which
> came out of the my fedora design:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MyFedora/Mockups

Just a humble drive-by comment here, and let me first point at that I am a 
developer, not a designer:

I'm wondering if the left-side tabs are taking too much prime real-estate on 
the page? I'm guessing many of our users are still on 1024x768 screens, and 
the tabbed menu steal much of the attention and space on the page. Contrast 
this with e.g. http://l10n.gnome.org/ where the black bar on top provides a 
non-intrusive way of jumping between applications (sadly, this theme is not 
followed through in other gnome sites though..). 

I think the point I'm trying to make is that the overall theme that the 
applications plug into shouldn't steal the attention or real-estate away from 
the real use of the page. Does this make sense?

cheers,
asgeir

> We don't have those little teaser boxes for applications though so maybe
> if you can do the styling for those we can include it?
>
> I'm really worried about duplication of efforts here. And we definitely
> should not be throwing away all the work done on the fpo master
> stylesheet and re-doing it either.
>
> > But now that i saw the post of Máirín.. which one is gonna be used as
> > the default frame for fedora and it's sub domains? mine or Máirín's?
> > (i really need to participate in the next meeting) mailed as a cc to
> > Robin Norwood in the hope that he can give his opinion about this as
> > well.
>
> ~m