Wiki Business

[Paul W. Frields]

On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 12:21 +1200, Nigel Jones wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 01:54 +1200, Nigel Jones wrote:
> >   
> >> Nigel Jones wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Hi all, two items of business that I want to bring up
> >>>
> >>> 1)  We now have a bot on the wiki, appropriately named Wikibot, this 
> >>> can be used for general repetitive tasks such as en-mass addition of 
> >>> categories to pages, and some general clean-up tasks that needs 
> >>> to/should happen once in a while.
> >>> 2)  Some pages are getting a bit too big, while some are getting 
> >>> useless as time goes on (information for EOL releases.  As such I 
> >>> propose the addition of two new name spaces...
> >>>
> >>> a) Archive: (without talk pages)
> >>> Purpose - To allow archiving wiki pages pertaining to EOL releases, 
> >>> and/or are no longer relevant to the general user
> >>> Benefits - With proper setup (not searched by default for instance) we 
> >>> can help speed up searches and remove old information from general end 
> >>> users, BUT still be there for those interested.  Pages like the old 
> >>> Extras and FSA pages come to mind immediately.
> >>>
> >>> b) Meeting: (with talk pages)
> >>> Purpose - Allow some separation of end-user based content and 
> >>> board/committee/group meeting logs
> >>> Benefits - Marginal, similar to the purpose of Archive though, 
> >>> basically, somewhere to keep meeting logs in a place where they can be 
> >>> optionally searched but not by default
> >>>       
> >> There is a third...
> >>
> >>   c) QA: (with talk pages)
> >>   Purpose - Allow QA folks to store software test-cases off the beaten track
> >>   Benefits - Ease of access for QA members, out of the way for 
> >> users/developers, not searched on default, but still searchable if 
> >> people want to
> >>   Notes - This comes from 
> >> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/588 Testopia 
> >> didn't quite work out and they are still unsure, so if noone has any 
> >> objections, I'd like to approve this request on the basis of "It's okay 
> >> with us, just let us know if/when you want to use it".
> >>
> >> Speak now or forever hold your peace!
> >>     
> >
> > With the first two, there's a definite positive return in reducing the
> > visibility of the pages.  In the former, it's the whole point, and in
> > the latter, it keeps long pages out of the limelight, while still
> > allowing searchability.  
> >
> > But remember that one of the keys to Fedora is transparency.  The
> > problems with Testopia can be solved in the medium-term, and the
> > reduction in searchability for QA stuff is, to me, not a win.  Keep in
> > mind that I live with a highly-organized wife, so no slight intended,
> > but am I missing the point in this level of binning in the case of a QA:
> > namespace?
> >   
> Okay, my understanding on the QA team's purpose for the namespace is this:
> 
> * General pages (about the QA team, what they do) remain in the main 
> namespace (under QA/*)
> * Testcases (what would have been in testopia) would be placed in the QA 
> namespace (QA:*)
> 
> It's a very subtle difference from what really is of interest to 
> everyone (about the group) and what is specifically targetted to QA team 
> members in Fedora and other FOSS projects.
> 
> It's nowhere near something to pull the wool over someone's eyes.

Sure, not meaning to imply anyone's being all sneaky-like. :-)  The way
you just explained it, clarifies quite a lot, thanks.

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