From kishor.kshirsagar87 at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 19:05:59 2009 From: kishor.kshirsagar87 at gmail.com (Kishor Kshirsagar) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:35:59 +0530 Subject: Please Help for queries Message-ID: <5507a2890908021205y602b3f80u1b6582d5cac5d362@mail.gmail.com> Resp Sir My Self Kishor Kshirsagar... I am from India , Maharashtra state . I just passed out my engineering graduation but i want to make carrier in open source systems and specially in operating system development .... but i don't understand how to start for that ....i asked to same question to many peoples but i got always same answer that , there is no good carrier in open source organization ... So i am confused what to do... please help me if you can.. Regards Kishor Kshirsagar +919850216851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Aug 3 11:53:21 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:23:21 +0530 Subject: Please Help for queries In-Reply-To: <5507a2890908021205y602b3f80u1b6582d5cac5d362@mail.gmail.com> References: <5507a2890908021205y602b3f80u1b6582d5cac5d362@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A76CFB1.50304@fedoraproject.org> On 08/03/2009 12:35 AM, Kishor Kshirsagar wrote: > Resp Sir > > My Self Kishor Kshirsagar... I am from India , Maharashtra state . I > just passed out my engineering graduation but i want to make carrier in > open source systems and specially in operating system development .... > but i don't understand how to start for that ....i asked to same > question to many peoples but i got always same answer that , there is no > good carrier in open source organization ... Post to fedora-india list for such discussions https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india Webmaster id is only for feedback on the Fedora website itself. Rahul From tl_johnson13 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 3 09:47:59 2009 From: tl_johnson13 at yahoo.com (Tom Johnson) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Setting Up Red Hat Fedora Linux 3 Message-ID: <753946.47127.qm@web44701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Sir, I tried to use the other e-mail in the Fedora but I can't make anything work when setting up. I am a Amateur Radio Operator and I would basically like to use the Fedora System to work Amateurs all over the world. I was doing this on Microsoft but I just got sick and tired of the whole operation of Microsoft. This system is super fast and I would like to learn how to use it and I just can't seem to get it started. I put the system in the computer and I thought everything was going to work, but I can't extract anything from a download to get the software program to work. I am downloading Linux type programs so there wouldn't be any problem but I have hit a brick wall. Can you help me get this operation started so I can use the Fedora system? This operating system is the"Red Hat Fedora Linux 3". I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you very much and have a good day. Thomas L. Johnson 803 Twp. Rd. 202 Bloomingdale, Ohio 43910 Phone:740-944-1005 Amateur Call: KB8FYG From onekopaka at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 15:11:54 2009 From: onekopaka at gmail.com (Darren VanBuren) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:11:54 -0700 Subject: Setting Up Red Hat Fedora Linux 3 In-Reply-To: <753946.47127.qm@web44701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <753946.47127.qm@web44701.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <407b25020908030811iff33ecct68bd18082ec90549@mail.gmail.com> Firstly, the correct name is Fedora Core 3, but at least I knew what you meant. Also, that release hit its end of life very long ago. If you need help installing Fedora for your first time, I suggest you check out http://docs.fedoraproject.org/installation-quick-start-guide/f11/en-US/html/Requirements.html, which will help you installing the latest version of Fedora, Fedora 11, which is much easier to set up than Fedora Core 3. I can't even find the documentation for Fedora Core 3 anymore. For future reference, email your questions to fedora-list at redhat.com, as webmaster at fedoraproject.org is for reporting bugs in our website, not for general help. Thanks, Darren L. VanBuren ===================== http://oks.verymad.net/ On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 02:47, Tom Johnson wrote: > > Sir, > I tried to use the other e-mail in the Fedora but I can't make anything work when setting up. I am a Amateur Radio Operator and I would basically like to use the Fedora System to work Amateurs all over the world. I was doing this on Microsoft but I just got sick and tired of the whole operation of Microsoft. This system is super fast and I would like to learn how to use it and I just can't seem to get it started. I put the system in the computer and ?I thought everything was going to work, but I can't extract anything from a download to get the software program to work. I am downloading Linux type programs so there wouldn't be any problem but I have hit a brick wall. Can you help me get this operation started so I can use the Fedora system? This operating system is the"Red Hat Fedora Linux 3". I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you very much and have a good day. > > Thomas L. Johnson > 803 Twp. Rd. 202 > Bloomingdale, Ohio 43910 > Phone:740-944-1005 > Amateur Call: KB8FYG > > > > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Aug 4 02:40:43 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:40:43 -0400 Subject: Fedora bug submitting process Message-ID: <20090804024042.GF21907@alpha.rzhou.org> Hey, Jon and I had a great conversation (log below) about how confusing submitting a bug to Fedora can be. There are a ton of great points here about some of the useless/confusing fields that get presented. I'm not sure what options we have for improving this, whether it's making a friendly, stripped down page for bug submission (which won't help the situation with the bug pages themselves, unfortunately), or maybe having a simplified, step-by-step bug submission form like GNOME has (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/simple-bug-guide.cgi), but this area definitely needs our attention - bug reporting is one of the easiest ways to make the jump from Fedora users to Fedora contributors, which is very important :-) 01:21 < mccann> hey ricky 01:42 < ricky> mccann: Hey 01:42 < mccann> ricky: hey again :) 01:43 < mccann> ricky: is there anyone thinking about or working on making a separate bugzilla for fedora? 01:43 < ricky> No, thankfully :-) Running a bugzilla is *painful* 01:44 < ricky> Luckily, Red Hat has people dedicated to running their bugzilla, so we're very happy to be able to use that :-) 01:46 < mccann> well many of us are not so happy 01:46 < mccann> besides the reasons you gave it doesn't make much sense to share them 01:47 < ricky> Wellll, it is very nice to share bugs with RHEL as well 01:47 < ricky> For example, a lot of times, security/other bugs that get reported against Fedora/RHEL apply to upstream/downstream as well 01:48 < mccann> linking bugs sure 01:49 < mccann> but fedora and rhel have dramatically different audiences 01:49 < mccann> and should be designed as such 01:49 < mccann> currently red hat bugzilla is completely inappropriate for fedora 01:49 < ricky> In what places? 01:49 < mccann> in everything 01:49 < mccann> the design 01:50 < mccann> it is just targeting the wrong audience 01:50 * ricky hates the slowness for example, but that's my biggest complaint 01:52 -!- daMaestro [n=jon at fedora/damaestro] has joined #fedora-websites 01:55 < ricky> Are there specific pages that are particularly wrongly targetted? 01:56 < ricky> Like the individual bug pages, or the bug submission page? 01:56 < ricky> Oh, and my second biggest complaint is the poor integration with FAS, which we unfortunately have to live with :-( 01:57 < ricky> One thing that we can do with the new bug page is design a better interface to that 02:01 < mccann> the new bug workflow is horrific 02:01 < mccann> scares me 02:02 < mccann> bug yeah I think the FAS thing is a problem too 02:02 < mccann> we should be integrating with koji and stuff too right? 02:02 < ricky> Yeah. Of all the problems, the FAS one is the most hopeless one 02:02 < mccann> stuff that launchpad does maybe 02:02 < ricky> In what ways could it interface with koji? 02:02 < mccann> or the simplicity of kwestie 02:03 < ricky> And what are the main confusing parts in the new bug page? 02:03 < mccann> ricky: the whole new bug workflow is bad not just the page 02:03 * ricky is looking at it now :-) 02:03 < mccann> choosing Fedora vs. Red Hat is bad 02:03 * mccann pulls it up 02:03 < ricky> The first impression is that you have to click through two screens to get to the place that 90% of Fedora bugzilla users probably want to go 02:04 < mccann> first of all https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ is strange 02:04 < mccann> since I was looking for fedora and i got this 02:04 < mccann> makes me do a double take 02:04 < ricky> Yeah, the front page looks totally Red Hat/RHEL-centric 02:05 < mccann> if I manage to get past that... and many may not 02:05 < ricky> It might be good to have common links on the front page 02:05 < ricky> For example, one that goes directly to reporting bugs in RHEL, Fedora, and EPEL 02:05 < mccann> well for me I'd prefer to have a different account for my fedora bugs and my rhel bugs 02:05 < mccann> but i'll be specific about the new bug workflow for now 02:05 < mccann> i clicked new 02:06 < ricky> Darn, mizmo isn't around - she'd be the first person I'd want to be here for a discussion like this :-) 02:06 < mccann> what does "All: Show all products" mean? 02:06 < ricky> Wow, I had never clicked that link before 02:06 < mccann> its the first one :) 02:06 < ricky> I wasn't aware that jboss stuff was here as well 02:06 < mccann> and other? wtf 02:07 < mccann> i want fedora 02:07 < mccann> ok I click Fedora (duh) 02:07 < mccann> ok now what is all this stuff 02:07 < ricky> OK, so that's annoying/useless, but hopefully not too confusing yet 02:07 < mccann> i have another list 02:07 < ricky> Yeah - if anything, I'd emphasize Fedora/EPEL more 02:07 < mccann> annoying is worse than confusing 02:07 < ricky> I'd rename "Fedora EPEL" to "EPEL" to reduce confusion there 02:07 < mccann> point is that at every turn people will flee 02:08 < ricky> Fedora Hosted Projects needs to die 02:08 < ricky> I don't even know what Fedora Management Console is 02:08 < mccann> creating a bug MUST be one click from the home screen 02:08 < ricky> And documentation/localization should stay but be deemphasized 02:08 < ricky> Agreed - that's a good requirement to have 02:08 < ricky> Two clicks to downloading Fedora was one of our requirements when designing the get-fedora page 02:09 < mccann> and only require the minimum but allow me to add what I can 02:09 < mccann> anyway so at that screen I click "Fedora" (again) 02:09 < ricky> OK, so I think we have a lot of good comments so far - onto the next step - click Fedora again, wait a minute for the gian list to show up 02:09 < mccann> and now I wait a long time :) 02:09 < ricky> One thing that I think can be confusing to a lot of people is the terminology 02:10 < ricky> Stuff like "Product" and "Component" aren't that obvious to people 02:10 < ricky> s/aren't/isn't 02:10 < mccann> and now the screen of doom 02:10 * ricky would care about packages, not components 02:11 < mccann> big picture: most of this stuff is pointless or i have no idea what it is (even for me) and it gives me no idea what it important or required 02:11 < ricky> OK, let's go through the fields one by one 02:11 < mccann> if i just go down to the description and then submit it - i'll get an error 02:11 < mccann> the point is not the fields themselves necessarily 02:11 < ricky> The sheer number of them? 02:11 < mccann> the point is that I should just enter what I'm seeing and that should be enough 02:12 < ricky> I can see where you're coming from with that - but I think the line needs to be drawn at selecting a component, at least 02:13 < ricky> The OS field is particularly useless here :-) 02:13 < mccann> well what if I don't know the component? 02:13 < ricky> As is target milestone 02:13 < mccann> i design the OS and many times I don't know what is causing the specific problem 02:13 < ricky> Hm. 02:14 < mccann> i go to the emergency room and I don't diagnose myself 02:14 < mccann> i tell them my leg hurts 02:14 < mccann> doctor tells me that it isn't my leg it is shoes that are the problem 02:14 < ricky> Maybe there needs to be a catchall component if the users don't know. Not sure how such a thing is implemented in bugzilla or if the triaging team has the ability to take on a lot of that type of bug 02:15 < mccann> so let's assume for a moment that i want a top to bottom workflow 02:15 < mccann> let's go down in order 02:15 < mccann> product fedora - um yeah i guess 02:15 < mccann> component: dunno 02:15 < mccann> reporter: ? 02:16 < mccann> me of course 02:16 < mccann> and why is that over to the right 02:16 < mccann> version 02:16 < mccann> of what? 02:16 < mccann> of the component? 02:16 < ricky> Good, I didn't think of that ambiguity before 02:16 < mccann> the next 5 dropdowns? pointless 02:17 < ricky> Agreed 02:17 < mccann> initial state? wtf 02:17 < ricky> Most people don't care who it's assigned to or CCed to either 02:17 < mccann> and some weird flags boxes over to the right 02:17 < mccann> what is that 02:17 < ricky> And the flags are mostly of interest to triagers, maintainers and other fedora contributors 02:17 < mccann> for some admin i guess 02:18 < ricky> The time tracking is completely unused as far as I know 02:18 < mccann> i've never used them 02:18 < mccann> alias seems like it better added later 02:18 < mccann> if ever 02:18 < mccann> what is url for? 02:18 < mccann> i have no idea 02:18 < ricky> I think I'd prefer if all of the extra stuff were at the bottom of the page, maybe even below the submit button, or hidden behind some advanced options button 02:19 < mccann> what is whiteboard for? i have no idea 02:19 < ricky> So summary, description, and attachment are the only useful ones there at all 02:19 < mccann> Customer Facing ? 02:19 < ricky> Yeah 02:20 < mccann> and if i somehow skip summary it gives me a nasty error message 02:20 < mccann> but it doesn't tell me summary is required 02:20 < ricky> Do you think this kind of confusion also applies to the bug pages themselves (like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1), or not so much? 02:20 < mccann> and those groups. i've never touched them 02:21 < mccann> not done here - one sec :) 02:21 < ricky> Heh, take your time, this is good stuff :-) 02:21 < mccann> and "Commit" ?! 02:21 < mccann> this isn't an insane asylum or is it? 02:21 < ricky> Yeah, that's is pretty bad 02:21 < ricky> **that 02:21 < mccann> and commit has the same "weight" / importance as "remember template" 02:22 < mccann> actually less 02:22 < mccann> since it is smaller and over to the left 02:22 < mccann> and the spacing on the page is just all wrong 02:22 < mccann> and commit is hidden down under the "heading" Add External Bug: 02:22 < ricky> Oh yeah. 02:23 < mccann> so again the entire workflow should be just (maybe) summary, and description and "Submit bug report" 02:23 < mccann> and that should all be one click from the home page 02:23 < mccann> and maybe add attachment if i have one 02:24 < mccann> or list component if i can tell 02:24 < mccann> and maybe even automatically look for similar bugs 02:24 < mccann> to prevent needless dups 02:25 -!- mchua_ [n=mchua at 173-10-206-145-BusName-NorthGulf.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #fedora-websites 02:25 -!- mchua_ [n=mchua at 173-10-206-145-BusName-NorthGulf.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 02:26 < mccann> if we had a better main page it could even show quick summary of what was filed or fixed today 02:26 < mccann> lots of cool stuff 02:26 < ricky> Ugh, I got dropped from wireless, sorry 02:27 < ricky> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/simple-bug-guide.cgi is a decent thing to compare against if you have an account there 02:27 < ricky> Still a bunch of steps, but at least clearly labeled (and mostly only the important ones) 02:28 < mccann> well gnome has a number of nice things in theirs 02:28 < mccann> but i think they are working on moving over to a new version now 02:28 < mccann> so it is on hold 02:28 < ricky> Do you know if it's GNOME patches to it, or if it's functionality we could get as well? 02:28 < mccann> both I think 02:28 < ricky> Ah 02:29 < mccann> i'll try to check on the update tomorrow 02:29 < mccann> anyway for the bug status page... 02:29 < ricky> :-) 02:29 < mccann> say https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514246 for example 02:29 < mccann> it is pretty bad too 02:29 < ricky> Yeah, it's like always looking at a half-filled form 02:30 < mccann> Conditional NAK? 02:30 < ricky> Heh, that I don't see :-) 02:30 < mccann> PM Score: ? 02:31 < mccann> oh this may be rhel things sneaking in for me 02:31 < ricky> Hehe 02:31 < mccann> but they shouldn't 02:31 < mccann> again the time reporting stuff 02:31 -!- onekopaka is now known as onekopaka_away 02:32 < mccann> anyway i'll ask around tomorrow about the gnome bugzilla move 02:32 < mccann> thanks for listening to my rants 02:32 < mccann> :) 02:32 < ricky> Mind if I post this entire conversation to fedora-websites-list? 02:32 < mccann> did I say anything too mean? 02:33 < ricky> Nah :-) Everythings, very true definitely 02:33 < mccann> ok sure then :) 02:33 < ricky> Cool, thanks - hopefully this will start up some brainstorming 02:33 < mccann> cool. again I'll check back with some info tomorrow hopefully -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 03:22:26 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:22:26 -0400 Subject: Fedora bug submitting process In-Reply-To: <20090804024042.GF21907@alpha.rzhou.org> References: <20090804024042.GF21907@alpha.rzhou.org> Message-ID: <20090804032226.GB7856@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:40:43PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: > Hey, Jon and I had a great conversation (log below) about how confusing > submitting a bug to Fedora can be. There are a ton of great points here > about some of the useless/confusing fields that get presented. > > I'm not sure what options we have for improving this, whether it's > making a friendly, stripped down page for bug submission (which won't > help the situation with the bug pages themselves, unfortunately), or > maybe having a simplified, step-by-step bug submission form like GNOME > has (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/simple-bug-guide.cgi), but this area > definitely needs our attention - bug reporting is one of the easiest > ways to make the jump from Fedora users to Fedora contributors, which is > very important :-) Interestingly, this same topic came up tangentially at the Fedora Community brainstorming session. I like the idea of an interface that's easier for novices to navigate and file. I'm assuming that whatever we're talking about is hooked on the back end to the same data store, and presented in a friendlier, more digestible way. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From ulixes84 at yahoo.it Wed Aug 5 10:35:10 2009 From: ulixes84 at yahoo.it (Paolo Leoni) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:35:10 +0200 Subject: Fwd: Fedora 12 Alpha release banner In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0908050334v7d973a4ejc239e0996945549e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0908050334v7d973a4ejc239e0996945549e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0908050335g4426a9e1v3da36d632366d0c3@mail.gmail.com> [please ignore previous email] Hi there, we're near to F12 alpha relese, so I've uploaded a proposal for release banner: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/46/Deepsky-fedora12alpha-banner1.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/9e/Deepsky-fedora12alpha-banner1.svg Feedbacks are welcome. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at djib.fr Wed Aug 5 08:40:25 2009 From: me at djib.fr (=?UTF-8?Q?Jean-Baptiste_H=C3=A9tier?=) Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:40:25 +0200 Subject: Questions about Wiki translations Message-ID: Hello, I would be interested in translating Wiki Pages from English to French. I have read the instructions on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#Translating but I have a few questions left before getting started. First of all, as I understood, the translation's dictionary (FrenchDict for instance) is supposed to be a mapping between English pages and translated pages. I've had a look at FrenchDict and GermanDict and was surprised to see that they both contain such a mapping *and* translations of English terms into French and German. Did I miss something or are such translations of English terms not supposed to be part of the dictionary? Also, how does the Wiki uses that dictionary? On the Wikipedia for example, when a page is available in other languages, there is a link in the left-hand menu. Is there a similar feature on FedoraProject? Is it not active for the moment? Eventually, how can a user search for pages in his/her language? Such a feature is (I think) essential but I didn't find it. Thank you for your help. Sincerely -- Jean-Baptiste From arishey at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 08:19:19 2009 From: arishey at gmail.com (Ali Arishey) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:19:19 +0300 Subject: bug in update Message-ID: <5c9220d20908050119x2dd24ceesb410570c898b2044@mail.gmail.com> Dear All Thanks for finishing build fedora11 . I'm love fedora and use it tools but when use fedora11 can't make update by proxy. Thanks, Regards, ----------------------------- Ali Arishey Researcher & Developer ----------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Wed Aug 5 15:21:13 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:21:13 -0400 Subject: Questions about Wiki translations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090805152113.GA6584@alpha.rzhou.org> On 2009-08-05 10:40:25 AM, Jean-Baptiste H?tier wrote: > I would be interested in translating Wiki Pages from English to French. I > have read the instructions on > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#Translating but I have a few > questions left before getting started. > > First of all, as I understood, the translation's dictionary (FrenchDict for > instance) is supposed to be a mapping between English pages and translated > pages. I've had a look at FrenchDict and GermanDict and was surprised to > see that they both contain such a mapping *and* translations of English > terms into French and German. Did I miss something or are such > translations of English terms not supposed to be part of the dictionary? > > Also, how does the Wiki uses that dictionary? On the Wikipedia for > example, when a page is available in other languages, there is a link in > the left-hand menu. Is there a similar feature on FedoraProject? Is it > not active for the moment? > > Eventually, how can a user search for pages in his/her language? Such a > feature is (I think) essential but I didn't find it. Sorry, I'm not too familiar with the state of translations on the wiki. Sadly, a lot of this stuff might be outdated information from back when we used different wiki software. Some work has been done with making the wiki translatable in a similar way to mediawiki, but that hasn't gone through to completion unfortunately. You might try asking fedora-trans-list at redhat.com if they have any more up to date procedures for translating the wiki. 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All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=174090 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #10 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:28 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 18:42:53 2009 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:42:53 -0400 Subject: [Bug 209900] Bad URL in translation-quick-start-guide/en In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051842.n75Igrob001505@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=209900 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stickster at gmail.com Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #1 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:53 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 18:42:55 2009 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:42:55 -0400 Subject: [Bug 210591] Add wiki page about the Fedora Directory Project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051842.n75Igt8S001537@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210591 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stickster at gmail.com Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #4 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:54 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 18:42:43 2009 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:42:43 -0400 Subject: [Bug 192941] RELNOTES - Summarize the release note suggestion/content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051842.n75IghPY001292@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=192941 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stickster at gmail.com Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #6 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:42 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 18:42:58 2009 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:42:58 -0400 Subject: [Bug 211059] Change luxi, vera fonts with dejavu+generic ones on f.r.c In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051842.n75Igwco001647@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=211059 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stickster at gmail.com Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #3 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:58 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 18:43:00 2009 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:43:00 -0400 Subject: [Bug 211558] Choose either planet.fedoraproject.org or fedoraproject.org/people/ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051843.n75Ih0qr001680@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=211558 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stickster at gmail.com Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #5 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:59 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 18:42:56 2009 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:42:56 -0400 Subject: [Bug 210814] Change http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ into something more meaningful In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051842.n75IguOZ001569@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210814 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stickster at gmail.com Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #2 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:55 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From bugzilla at redhat.com Wed Aug 5 18:42:49 2009 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:42:49 -0400 Subject: [Bug 209497] Download/updates.html has link for Managing Software with yum that points to old docs/ dir In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051842.n75IgnGZ001396@bz-web2.app.phx.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=209497 Eric Christensen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |stickster at gmail.com Component|fedora-websites |docs-requests --- Comment #2 from Eric Christensen 2009-08-05 14:42:49 EDT --- Tickets move to docs-request so the fedora-websites component can be removed per request from Ricky. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 7 01:22:51 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:22:51 -0400 Subject: Meeting Reminder - 2009-08-07 17:00 UTC Message-ID: <20090807012251.GA30966@alpha.rzhou.org> Hey, this is a reminder that we'll be meeting in #fedora-websites on Freenode at 17:00 UTC on 2009-08-07. 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Regards Rakesh From ulixes84 at yahoo.it Fri Aug 7 10:08:34 2009 From: ulixes84 at yahoo.it (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:08:34 +0200 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Design-team] Fwd: Fedora 12 Alpha release banner In-Reply-To: <4A7996FF.3080603@brej.org> References: <1799f9cf0908050334v7d973a4ejc239e0996945549e@mail.gmail.com> <1799f9cf0908050335g4426a9e1v3da36d632366d0c3@mail.gmail.com> <4A7996FF.3080603@brej.org> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0908070308na0abefavc91329a5ac99a1c2@mail.gmail.com> I'm a bit unsatisfied about my previous banner, so I remade it. This is a new try: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/5/5a/Deepsky-fedora12alpha-banner2b.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/26/Deepsky-fedora12alpha-banner2b.svg -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sijis at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 7 16:08:25 2009 From: sijis at fedoraproject.org (Sijis Aviles) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:08:25 -0500 Subject: About Fedora Test Page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <747290270908070908w417a951oa2305296390d1393@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Rakesh Singh Maurya wrote: > Respected Sir/madam > > I cann't open "www.torrent.com". when I try to open the web site it > always open with your site and tell me go for "Fedora Test Page". > Please try to help me out and give me full solution for it. Also reply > me as soon as possible. > > > Regards > > Rakesh > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > Rakesh, This website is not managed by the Fedora Project. This is the default page for a non-configured apache webserver on Fedora. Please see the following for more information: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server_Test_Page You will have to contact the domain administrator's for assistance. From ricky at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 7 18:12:46 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:12:46 -0400 Subject: Meeting Log - 2009-08-07 Message-ID: <20090807181246.GB13099@alpha.rzhou.org> 17:00 < ricky> #startmeeting Fedora Websites 17:00 < zodbot> Meeting started Fri Aug 7 17:00:40 2009 UTC. The chair is ricky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00 < zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: (Meeting topic: Fedora Websites) 17:00 < fedbot> Meeting started Fri Aug 7 17:00:41 2009 UTC. The chair is ricky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00 < fedbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00 < ricky> #topic Who's here? 17:00 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Who's here? (Meeting topic: Fedora Websites) 17:00 -!- FergatROn [i=469efd9a at gateway/web/freenode/x-znxwvjoycljtqtlo] has joined #fedora-websites 17:01 -!- stickster_afk is now known as stickster 17:01 -!- stickster is now known as stickster_afk 17:01 < FergatROn> has the meeting started? 17:01 * sijis is here. 17:01 < ricky> It just did :-) 17:01 < FergatROn> awesome! I had to jump through some hoops to get here. :D 17:01 < ricky> Hehe, nice :-) 17:02 < sijis> welcome. :) 17:02 < ricky> mizmo, nb, onekopaka_away, ianweller, any other interested parties: ping 17:02 < FergatROn> thanks sijis 17:02 * nb 17:02 * ianweller halfway 17:02 * nb halfway also 17:02 -!- hiemanshu_phone [i=75612544 at gateway/web/freenode/x-kejtprvjgfkblkuf] has joined #fedora-websites 17:02 < FergatROn> Is there an agenda, ricky or is it all in your head? :D 17:02 * hiemanshu_phone is here 17:02 * ricky doesn't have very much for this meeting unfortunately :-( 17:03 * ricky is half-looking at the FESCo meeting too 17:03 < ricky> #topic Tasks 17:03 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Tasks (Meeting topic: Fedora Websites) 17:03 < nb> yeah, i need to get moving on blogs stuff 17:03 < FergatROn> what's the FESCo meeting? 17:03 < hiemanshu_phone> me is back frome hospital so i can help 17:04 < sijis> nb: i'm trying to setup blogs-test on pt15, so we can have something to test the ssl piece on. 17:04 < ricky> hiemanshu_phone: Hope you're feeling better 17:04 < hiemanshu_phone> ricky not that well when u have one hand to use :( 17:04 * nb would prefer to set up ssl on value1/2, but i know infra does not want to do that 17:04 < mizmo> ricky: pong 17:04 * FergatROn brb - changing clients 17:04 -!- FergatROn [i=469efd9a at gateway/web/freenode/x-znxwvjoycljtqtlo] has quit "Page closed" 17:04 < ricky> On the bright side, you'll learn to type really fast one-handed :-) 17:04 * nb wonders why we do not want to do that? 17:05 -!- FergatROn [i=469efd9a at gateway/web/freenode/x-qhfrngtmidiaqoks] has joined #fedora-websites 17:05 < ricky> First, we don't want to deal with separate certs on the app servers 17:05 < nb> true 17:05 < hiemanshu_phone> ricky yeah :) 17:05 * ricky is done with FESCo stuff - just had to say one line there :-) 17:06 < ricky> OK, so sijis is working on getting a test instance setup on publictest15/16 to see what changes would be needed to run this properly 17:06 < FergatROn> [ot] amazing how I searched and searched for a web irc client and freenode had one available. /facepalm 17:06 < ricky> Hehe 17:06 < sijis> haha. 17:06 < FergatROn> some pretty sketchy sites out there with irc clients available 17:07 < hiemanshu_phone> yeah m using the webclient too :) 17:07 < ricky> OK, so any other updates on this for now? 17:07 < sijis> hiemanshu_phone: if you have a smart phone, you can get putty or an irc client. 17:07 < sijis> ricky: nope. just trying to set that test site up. 17:07 < ricky> Thanks for working on that 17:07 < hiemanshu_phone> sijis i do have both, but phirc is pretty buggy :( 17:08 < FergatROn> ricky: sorry, i haven't been here,but what's the test site? 17:08 < ricky> http://blogs-test.fedoraproject.org/wp/ 17:08 < ricky> The goal is to the login to require https 17:08 < ricky> Normally a trivial task, but not so thanks to wordpress :-) 17:09 < hiemanshu_phone> fergatron new here? Seeing you for the first time :) 17:09 < ricky> (it's a little more complex than that - we're putting a reverse proxy in front of it, which is what's making this tough) 17:09 < FergatROn> yup, hiemanshu_phone - I've been to one other meeting a couple months back 17:09 < sijis> related... anyone get a hold of bretm (wp package owner)? 17:09 < FergatROn> You guys have probably talked about this already, but what about those hosting their own blogs - will planet.fedoraproject.org pick this up too or do they have to blog on both platforms? 17:10 < hiemanshu_phone> sijis i did 17:10 < ricky> FergatROn: Planet is just an aggregator in front of blog services like blogs.fp.o 17:10 < ricky> So people will follow the same procedures for getting those blogs on planet 17:10 < FergatROn> ok ricky 17:11 < FergatROn> can I log into the test server now? 17:11 < FergatROn> I wouldn't mind testing. 17:11 < ricky> Not with your FAS info! :-) 17:11 < ricky> It's running against a test FAS now 17:11 < ricky> (http://publictest3.fedoraproject.org/accounts/) 17:11 < ricky> You can make a fake account there and login, or admin/admin works if you need it 17:11 < sijis> its actually not authenticating, which is what i have to fix. 17:12 -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mizmo 17:12 < ricky> Oh, then you'll have to wait for that first :-) 17:12 < ricky> There's also an instance on production machines (but not actually ready yet due to the https issue): blogs.fedoraproject.org 17:12 < sijis> i kept getting a 'enable cookies' error. 17:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mizmo 17:12 < ricky> Don't login there with your FAS info without https 17:13 < FergatROn> gottcha 17:13 < ricky> OK, so any more questions on that? 17:13 < hiemanshu_phone> nope 17:13 < ricky> OK then. 17:13 < ricky> #topic Alpha release 17:13 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: Alpha release (Meeting topic: Fedora Websites) 17:14 < ricky> For those of you in the web group, we're going to have some routine changes to make for the alpha release 17:14 < hiemanshu_phone> bring it on :) 17:14 < FergatROn> haha 17:14 < ricky> Normally I do those every release, but I want to make sure that other people know how/what to do for a release too :-) 17:15 < hiemanshu_phone> ricky m here to help :) 17:15 < ricky> Excellent :-) 17:15 < ricky> So here's the release schedule for F12: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule 17:15 * sijis is available too. 17:15 < hiemanshu_phone> cant game one hand :? 17:15 < FergatROn> ditto - I've love to do some of that "routine" stuff too. 17:15 < hiemanshu_phone> :( 17:15 < ricky> For the alpha/beta release, what we do is make a get-prerelease page 17:16 < ricky> Which pretty much looks like get-fedora-all except with links to the alpha or beta. 17:16 < ricky> That usually gets linked from the get-fedora page, plus a banner from the design team 17:16 < hiemanshu_phone> ricky my fav page :) 17:16 < ricky> Hehe 17:16 < ricky> So the alpha release is coming up in a week or so, and that stuff will start to come in 17:17 < ricky> We've already gotten some emails from Paulo with some initial release banner 17:17 < ricky> **banners 17:17 < hiemanshu_phone> ricky i should be able to use my comp from moday 17:17 < ricky> So in a few days we'll start working on getting that stuff up and ready 17:17 < hiemanshu_phone> monday ** 17:18 < ricky> Cool, I'll make sure to ping you guys some time next week then :-) 17:18 * hiemanshu_phone saw the banners 17:18 * nb can help 17:18 < ricky> OK, so that's all I have on that for now, with more updates to come once we get started with that 17:19 < hiemanshu_phone> ricky any time :) Slow but steady will be my new style :D 17:19 < ricky> Cool 17:19 < ricky> #topic spins/get-fedora redesign 17:19 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-websites to: spins/get-fedora redesign (Meeting topic: Fedora Websites) 17:19 < ricky> mizmo: ping - do you still have those mockup links handy? 17:19 < ricky> So a week has gone by with discussion on fedora-advisory-board 17:20 < ricky> mizmo: Are you satisfied with the requirements that have come out of that so far? 17:20 -!- stiv2k [n=steve at fedora/stiv2k] has joined #fedora-websites 17:20 < sijis> here's the link: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/fedora-v4_front.png 17:20 < ricky> Thanks 17:20 < mizmo> ricky: i haven't actually followed them yet 17:20 < ricky> Ah, OK. There hasn't been all that much to be honest :-/ The thread kind of dried out 17:21 * nb likes 17:22 < ricky> mizmo: I was wondering what your thoughts are for how much of this would can go in the F12 website 17:22 < ricky> s/would // 17:22 < hiemanshu_phone> mizmo your mockups were totally off what i expected 17:23 < hiemanshu_phone> off from* 17:23 < ricky> Can you elaborate? 17:23 < hiemanshu_phone> we wanted to make it easy and clear 17:24 < FergatROn> [inturpting] excuse me for the slowness. This is a mock up of what you want the get-fedora page to be? 17:24 < hiemanshu_phone> mizmo's mockup elobrates one thing, not what i think is very good 17:24 < ricky> I don't think that was a get-fedora mockup - it looked more like a front page to me :-) 17:25 < ricky> Oh, I could be mistaken 17:25 < hiemanshu_phone> we want everything in a clear cut way 17:25 < sijis> it was just the front page 17:25 < ianweller> v4_front is the front page 17:25 < FergatROn> oh ok, so this is the new fedoraproject.org home page. 17:25 < hiemanshu_phone> it was get-fedora page iirc 17:25 < sijis> let me find the other link. 17:25 < ianweller> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/fedora-v4_getfedora.png 17:25 < ianweller> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/fedora-v4_downloadsplash.png 17:26 < ricky> Then again, as a front page, I might also want something that emphasizes the Fedora *Project* a little more in addition to the Fedora Linux distro 17:26 < ianweller> herlo-moonwalk.ogg on the front page in a