From ricky at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 1 00:02:04 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:02:04 -0500 Subject: difficulty in creating account In-Reply-To: <85d0ed210812310323x178621c9v72ccc5a031841bc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <85d0ed210812310323x178621c9v72ccc5a031841bc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090101000204.GC17354@sphe.fedora.phx.redhat.com> On 2008-12-31 04:53:39 PM, krishna N wrote: > i have half way registered in fedora website but cant access my home page.... What home page? > i have to fill some things like latitude,longitude,IRC nick,well the website > irc.freenode.net is not working,GPG key id,Public RSA SSH Key, Depending on how you would like to contribute to Fedora, you won't need to fill these in. A GPG key is something that some people use to sign their emails to verify their identity. An SSH key is necessary if you will be committing code to repositories over SSH or if you will need shell access to any of our servers. (if you don't know what this is, you probably won't need it). > .....and i cannot find india in asia....for time.... I'm not sure about Indian time zones, but there are some Indian/* time zones in the selection. Our time zone list comes from pytz (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/), so if something is missing you might be able to contact a developer there. > and i see that the form for free cd is closed and there i came on a > sentence that we have to provide a cd....well i hope UBUNTU is better than > this...i easily sign up there...and getting free cd's from past a year with out > any difficulty... The Free Media program is generously run by volunteers, so I don't think we can expect them to fully satisfy the demand every month. For more information about this program, you can ask on fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation Samuel Goldwyn - "Include me out." 2009/1/1 Henrique Junior > Hi folks, > My name is Henrique and I'm one of the Brazilian ambassadors of Fedora here > in Brazil. We,re going to integrate a variety of tools to Fedora Project > Brazil and one of these tools is a wiki (that is online and working for > almost one year now)[1]. We'd like to use the same skin as > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki uses. > Is there any chance to get the same skin used by Fedora Project's > international mediawiki? > > [1] - http://fedora.wiki.br > > -- > Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior > http://www.lonelyspooky.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- > "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!" > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Henrique de Castro < henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br> wrote: > Hi Angel, > I have the same problem here. > > Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior > ------------------------------ > "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!" > > ------------------------------ > *De:* Angel > *Para:* henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br > *Cc:* fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 1 de Janeiro de 2009 14:19:52 > *Assunto:* Re: Fedora's Mediawiki Skin > > Hi, > Did the Fedora wiki theme worked? > Recently I have tried the Fedora theme. And I think, there has a problem > with this theme. Theme is not working properly. > Please have a look here, http://fedora.computer.net.bd/wiki/ . > This is our default theme of Fedora Wiki. I have asked help from Media Wiki > community, about this issue. They think there could be some coding problem. > If it worked for you, please inform me. > > Or can anyone please help me with this? It'll be so helpful. > > Angel > GPG key: 0xC4639705 > Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance > Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel > > Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation > > Samuel Goldwyn - "Include me out." > > 2009/1/1 Henrique Junior > >> Hi folks, >> My name is Henrique and I'm one of the Brazilian ambassadors of Fedora >> here in Brazil. We,re going to integrate a variety of tools to Fedora >> Project Brazil and one of these tools is a wiki (that is online and working >> for almost one year now)[1]. We'd like to use the same skin as >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki uses. >> Is there any chance to get the same skin used by Fedora Project's >> international mediawiki? >> >> [1] - http://fedora.wiki.br >> >> -- >> Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior >> http://www.lonelyspooky.com >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!" >> >> -- >> Fedora-websites-list mailing list >> Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list >> >> > > ------------------------------ > Veja quais s?o os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! + Buscados: Top 10- > Celebridades- > M?sica- > Esportes > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 01:02:03 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:02:03 -0500 Subject: Fedora's Mediawiki Skin In-Reply-To: <4f629b520812311543u2a15dbf5g6bed59dc0d2ccbe9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f629b520812311543u2a15dbf5g6bed59dc0d2ccbe9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090102010203.GC15517@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 09:43:24PM -0200, Henrique Junior wrote: > Hi folks, > My name is Henrique and I'm one of the Brazilian ambassadors of Fedora here > in Brazil. We,re going to integrate a variety of tools to Fedora Project > Brazil and one of these tools is a wiki (that is online and working for > almost one year now)[1]. We'd like to use the same skin as > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki uses. > Is there any chance to get the same skin used by Fedora Project's > international mediawiki? > > [1] - http://fedora.wiki.br Anyone should be able to use the skin that we use for our wiki, but it is not permissible to use both the skin and the Fedora logo together: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Trademark_guidelines#Web_sites The reason for this is not that we want to stop people from showing support for Fedora, but purely because the Fedora trademarks require protection to avoid losing them. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We'd like to use the same skin as > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki uses. > > Is there any chance to get the same skin used by Fedora Project's > > international mediawiki? > > > > [1] - http://fedora.wiki.br > > Anyone should be able to use the skin that we use for our wiki, but > it is not permissible to use both the skin and the Fedora logo > together: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Trademark_guidelines#Web_sites > > The reason for this is not that we want to stop people from showing > support for Fedora, but purely because the Fedora trademarks require > protection to avoid losing them. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > > -- Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior http://www.lonelyspooky.com ------------------------------------------------------------- "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 09:43:24PM -0200, Henrique Junior wrote: > > Hi folks, > > My name is Henrique and I'm one of the Brazilian ambassadors of Fedora > here > > in Brazil. We,re going to integrate a variety of tools to Fedora Project > > Brazil and one of these tools is a wiki (that is online and working for > > almost one year now)[1]. We'd like to use the same skin as > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki uses. > > Is there any chance to get the same skin used by Fedora Project's > > international mediawiki? > > > > [1] - http://fedora.wiki.br > > Anyone should be able to use the skin that we use for our wiki, but > it is not permissible to use both the skin and the Fedora logo > together: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Trademark_guidelines#Web_sites > > The reason for this is not that we want to stop people from showing > support for Fedora, but purely because the Fedora trademarks require > protection to avoid losing them. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fedora-bangladesh-logo.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1068607 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rohankatare18 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 05:43:10 2009 From: rohankatare18 at gmail.com (rohan katare) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:13:10 +0530 Subject: INFORMATION Message-ID: plz give an information of work as soon as possible -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At least any idea? > As I mentioned, the theme makes references to some files under > fedoraproject.org, including our images and CSS. Specifically, you will > need http://fedoraproject.org/static/css/fedora.css and all of the > images linked from that CSS file. All of our images and CSS are > available in the static directory of our git repository: > > http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-web.git?p=fedora-web.git;a=tree;f=fedoraproject.org/static > . > > Thanks, > Ricky > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcferguson at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 15:39:23 2009 From: marcferguson at gmail.com (Marc Ferguson) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:39:23 -0500 Subject: Websites Meeting? In-Reply-To: <20081231214826.GA13367@sphe.fedora.phx.redhat.com> References: <20081229094128.GC6975@sphe.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <98F197F7-ECBE-489D-A3D1-B3F971502EBD@gmail.com> <20081229204954.GH6975@sphe.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <20081231214826.GA13367@sphe.fedora.phx.redhat.com> Message-ID: No problem. 2008/12/31 Ricky Zhou > On 2008-12-31 02:40:11 PM, Marc Ferguson wrote: > > That would be great! You might have to put it in an email or something, > I'm > > not certain how we're gonna do any live communications right now. :D > Ah, I'm sorry - I forgot that I had promised somebody I'd make that > change by Monday, so I ended up doing it. > > I'll make sure to email/ping you for the next change. > > Thanks, > Ricky > > -- > Fedora-websites-list mailing list > Fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list > > -- Marc F. www.fergytech.com Registered Linux User: #410978 "When life gives me lemons... 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Please read this page from the Free Software Foundation: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.html and contact the proper people. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 5 08:11:07 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:41:07 +0530 Subject: Oh my !!! Message-ID: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Why do all the links in http://get.fedoraproject.org and other places end with a !. Maybe it is just me but I tend to find them annoying noise. Rahul From pribyl at lowlevel.cz Mon Jan 5 13:07:14 2009 From: pribyl at lowlevel.cz (Adam Pribyl) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:07:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: Oh my !!! In-Reply-To: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> References: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Why do all the links in http://get.fedoraproject.org and other places end > with a !. Maybe it is just me but I tend to find them annoying noise. I also noticed this ! obsession, but was not that much annoied to bother. But yes, there is somehow too much exclamations. :) > > Rahul > Adam Pribyl From stickster at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 13:28:54 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:28:54 -0500 Subject: Oh my !!! In-Reply-To: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> References: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090105132854.GA25582@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:41:07PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Why do all the links in http://get.fedoraproject.org and other places > end with a !. Maybe it is just me but I tend to find them annoying noise. People tend to think of '!' in US English as being an indicator of enthusiasm, but in other cultures that punctuation can indicate a direct instruction or even a commanding tone. For that reason, they really shouldn't be used on official web sites. Most sites would simply indicate "Download XYZ now" instead of "Download XYZ now!". It's a pretty minor issue, but worth fixing the next time we change the content. Rahul, why don't you file a ticket against the web site for this? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 5 13:33:47 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:03:47 +0530 Subject: Oh my !!! In-Reply-To: <20090105132854.GA25582@localhost.localdomain> References: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> <20090105132854.GA25582@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49620C3B.2050007@fedoraproject.org> Paul W. Frields wrote: > > It's a pretty minor issue, but worth fixing the next time we change > the content. Rahul, why don't you file a ticket against the web site > for this? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1099 Rahul From marco at madteam.cat Mon Jan 5 12:31:36 2009 From: marco at madteam.cat (Marco Mazza) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:31:36 +0100 Subject: Problem whit BCM4312 Message-ID: <1231158696.4442.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Misters Y have problem to configuration the driver BCM43XX on my laptop Dell Latitude D620, I have charge the Kernel version 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.x86_64, whit other version of Linux (Ubuntu), when y update the kernel, the software start the driver Wifi & y work whit him. You have any idea for help my. Thanks Marco Mazza +34650976313 marco at madteam.cat From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 00:59:01 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:59:01 -0500 Subject: Websites Meeting Message-ID: <20090106005901.GA3154@sphe.fedora.phx.redhat.com> Sorry about missing the websites meeting today. I had to accompany somebody to see a doctor, and it took several hours longer than expected. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Jan 6 01:00:29 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:00:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: Oh my !!! In-Reply-To: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> References: <4961C09B.8070502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > Why do all the links in http://get.fedoraproject.org and other places end with > a !. Maybe it is just me but I tend to find them annoying noise. > heh, its even worse then that. It seems the installable live CD is exciting! While the upgrade process is not. :) -Mike From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 03:18:55 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:18:55 -0500 Subject: Problem whit BCM4312 In-Reply-To: <1231158696.4442.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1231158696.4442.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090106031855.GA9915@sphe.fedora.phx.redhat.com> On 2009-01-05 01:31:36 PM, Marco Mazza wrote: > Y have problem to configuration the driver BCM43XX on my laptop Dell Latitude > D620, I have charge the Kernel version 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.x86_64, whit > other version of Linux (Ubuntu), when y update the kernel, the software > start the driver Wifi & y work whit him. The webmaster at fedoraproject.org address is only for issues related to Fedora's websites. For general Fedora support, please refer to the help resources described at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate. 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URL: From admin at lug.am Thu Jan 8 07:32:51 2009 From: admin at lug.am (admin at lug.am) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:32:51 +0400 (AMT) Subject: For Armenian Mirror Message-ID: <1810.195.250.77.7.1231399971.squirrel@cpanel.host.am> Hello friends,happy new year and merry christmas ;) I wish to create Armenian mirror Fedora. What is necessary for this purpose? With Best Regards, "Linux Users Group in Armenia" Administrator Karen Gasparyan. From adrian at lisas.de Fri Jan 9 22:25:12 2009 From: adrian at lisas.de (Adrian Reber) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:25:12 +0100 Subject: For Armenian Mirror In-Reply-To: <1810.195.250.77.7.1231399971.squirrel@cpanel.host.am> References: <1810.195.250.77.7.1231399971.squirrel@cpanel.host.am> Message-ID: <20090109222512.GA17089@lisas.de> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 11:32:51AM +0400, admin at lug.am wrote: > Hello friends,happy new year and merry christmas ;) > > I wish to create Armenian mirror Fedora. What is necessary for this purpose? Please use a tier 1/2 mirror[1] close to you; create an account in the MirrorManager[2]; register your mirror in the mirror manager; enter your local netblocks in the mirror manager (if desired); run report_mirror[3] and as soon as you are listed in the database as up to date yum (and other clients) will be redirected to your mirror. All this information can be found in more details in the wiki at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring Thanks for supporting Fedora! If there are any more question do not hesitate to ask. Adrian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring/Tiering [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/MirrorManager [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring From fizikus13 at freemail.hu Fri Jan 9 23:13:11 2009 From: fizikus13 at freemail.hu (Eszenyi Gergely) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:13:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: Scilab Message-ID: Good evening! My problem is the next: I'd like to install Scilab on my 32 bit Fedora 10. I have founded a linux version (5.0.3) on the homepage of Scilab. I have installed, but it had not worked; i could not use the plotting method. I have packed it in desktop. After i have uninstalled, it caused me a bug. I think, it can useful for everybody, if this software could be installable through the Add/Remove Software service. What's your mind? If it is not a workable solution. Where and How can i install an operable version of scilab? Thanks for the help. Gergely Eszenyi ________________________________________________________ Szerelem, komoly kapcsolat, fl?rt - az igazi t?rskeres? ingyenes regisztr?ci?val, 400.000 taggal! Kattints ide: http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,6022,307522,376977/click.prm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I will answer the question anyway this time. Scilab, up until recently was not under a free and open source license and did meet the legal criteria for software to be included in Fedora. Their latest version is under a suitable license and a review request has been submitted to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472639 It is in progress currently. The review request is a peer check and a quality assurance process. Once it is complete, the software will be available in the repository and via Add/Remove software. Rahul From iambill at williamrosmus.com Sat Jan 10 17:10:09 2009 From: iambill at williamrosmus.com (BillR) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:10:09 -0500 Subject: download plain install iso Message-ID: <98DCD67253904FF7990C9E9280858897@SaintLouisMO1> I don't want the livecd install, it takes too damn long to boot up. I seem to always have problems getting raid to work on the installs of Linux and have to boot the install several times. Having to wait on the livecd is to put it as nice as I can, driving me crazy. And I can't see anything that says 'download just a plain old install cd iso without the livecd'. Can you help me out? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 11 06:16:13 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:46:13 +0530 Subject: download plain install iso In-Reply-To: <98DCD67253904FF7990C9E9280858897@SaintLouisMO1> References: <98DCD67253904FF7990C9E9280858897@SaintLouisMO1> Message-ID: <49698EAD.3050009@fedoraproject.org> BillR wrote: > I don't want the livecd install, it takes too damn long to boot up. I > seem to always have problems getting raid to work on the installs of > Linux and have to boot the install several times. Having to wait on the > livecd is to put it as nice as I can, driving me crazy. And I can't see > anything that says 'download just a plain old install cd iso without the > livecd'. > > Can you help me out? Click on the "show me all options" link and you will get it. Rahul From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 12 21:59:06 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:59:06 -0500 Subject: Meeting in ~2 minutes! Message-ID: <20090112215906.GD16108@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Sorry, I completely forgot to send a reminder about this earlier. Anyway, we're meeting in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net, come if you can! Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 12 23:11:43 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:11:43 -0500 Subject: Meeting Log - 2009-01-12 Message-ID: <20090112231143.GE16108@sphe.res.cmu.edu> 22:01 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Websites Meeting 22:01 < ricky> So who's here? 22:01 < ivazquez> Pong. 22:01 < ricky> ianweller, quaid, mizmo_ , stiv2k, anybody that I missed: ping 22:01 < stiv2k> pong 22:02 < mizmo> yo 22:02 -!- themayor [n=jack at dsl081-200-018.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit 22:02 -!- themayor [n=jack at dsl081-200-018.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:03 < ricky> So we'd like to make it our goal to improve join-fedora like we did to get-fedora last release 22:03 -!- mizmo_ [n=duffy at 66.187.234.199] has quit "Leaving" 22:03 < ricky> mizmo: Do you think we can do the same sort of "what do users want to do" analysis on join-fedora? 22:03 < mizmo> certainly :) 22:03 < rsc_> oh, Robert Scheck - was waiting #fedora-websites. 22:04 -!- themayor [n=jack at dsl081-200-018.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit Client Quit 22:04 < mizmo> the target user is obviously someone who is not currently involved in fedora 22:04 < ricky> We've already heard some comments on what bits can be confusing, like the categories being too broad, and how it links to FAS with little explanation about mailing lists, etc. 22:04 -!- themayor [n=jack at dsl081-200-018.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:04 -!- themayor [n=jack at dsl081-200-018.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit Client Quit 22:05 -!- DemonJester [n=DemonJes at fedora/DemonJester] has quit "leaving" 22:05 < mizmo> for all the different 'career paths' we currently suggest 22:05 < ricky> When people want to contribute, do they normally pretty much know exactly what tasks they'd like to do? 22:05 -!- tmz [n=tmz at fedora/tmz] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:05 < mizmo> we should research the steps the various teams have as part of the joining process, they definitely differ and not all involve FAS 22:05 < stiv2k> ricky: I was rather intrigued when I first joined and saw all the categories 22:05 < mizmo> (eg artteam, where fas membership is really not meaningful) 22:06 < mizmo> there are probably some people who go and know exactly what to work on, 22:06 < mizmo> but plenty who want to help but aren't sure where their help might be needed or what they might do 22:06 < stiv2k> ricky: though I knew for fact that I would want to be doing something technical, I wasn't sure if I wanted to do Infrastructure or OS developer 22:06 -!- QuickStart [n=QUICKSTA at pool-72-88-135-109.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:06 < mizmo> i think one special case too, for the users who aren't sure what to do, is that we assure them that you don't have to be a programmer to make a difference 22:06 < ricky> Yeah - Marc Ferguson sent some emails out, but I guess it was aroud holidays and not many people responded :-( 22:07 < mizmo> i think probably consulting with an ambassador who recruits folks would be really eye-opening here, but i know i've heard from a number of folks i tried to recruit, "well, i'm not a programmer, so how am i going to help?" 22:07 < ivazquez> Perhaps it's a marketing issue then. 22:07 < stiv2k> you should probably say it out right on the join-fedora page 22:07 < ricky> Should there be more text explaining this on join-fedora, or is the problem outside of the website? 22:08 < stiv2k> that programming skills or computer expertise is not required 22:08 -!- mxcarron [n=maxime at fedora/Pingoomax] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 22:08 < stiv2k> for all teams 22:08 < ivazquez> We need to make it seem that Fedora is more of a group of varied skills instead of a technically-oriented hive. 22:08 < ricky> Would it be logical to have separate areas for people that want to do technical things vs. not? 22:08 < stiv2k> the problem is, fedora is mostly a technical project 22:08 < stiv2k> 99% of people I interact with on a daily basis have no idea what fedora is 22:09 < stiv2k> the only thing people know is windows. 22:09 < stiv2k> what a world we live in :( 22:09 < mizmo> right but the people you interact with on a daily basis aren't in large percentage our target for this page, stiv2k 22:09 < ricky> Yeah, but even out of those people that know about Fedora, how many people know that they don't need to be a coder to get involved? 22:09 < mizmo> our target is people who already know what fedora is and want to help fedora 22:10 < mizmo> we have to assume they have some intent to help fedora, or to at least learn about what helping fedora entails 22:10 < mizmo> if they dont even know what fedora is they wont be on this page 22:10 < stiv2k> ricky: mizmo: exactly, very little, in fact, the "people" i was just talking about, as soon as I mention the word 'linux' to them, they get scared... they have no idea that they could still be an INVALUABLE help to the community 22:11 < mizmo> stiv2k, well i mean, im not sure how much help they can be if they don't know what linux is? 22:11 < stiv2k> mizmo: artwork? 22:11 < stiv2k> translations 22:11 < mizmo> stiv2k, we really encourage our artists to use FOSS tools 22:11 < ricky> For something like join-fedora, maybe more text/content vs. less content can actually be more reassuring to users 22:12 < mizmo> stiv2k, translations, maybe, but why would they be motivated to help if they dont understand what it is they are helping 22:12 < stiv2k> i know what you are saying, mizmo 22:12 < ricky> When I first started looking into contributing to Fedora, it was hard to get one view of all the parts of Fedora - I spent many hours following links on the wiki before that 22:12 < mizmo> they don't have to be linux users i guess, but they have to have a rough idea of what it is 22:12 < ivazquez> Maybe we need to de-emphasize the more technical roles. 22:13 < mizmo> well i think the 'you have to be a programmer' is a common myth 22:13 < mizmo> it could just be a banner ad or something on the screen 22:13 < mizmo> "Not a programmer? Don't worry!" 22:13 < ivazquez> Here's a crazy idea. 22:13 < mizmo> like, hopefully the different roles we would be illustrating on the page would make it clear enough, but just an additional emphasis, could be on the footer or in the sidebar 22:14 < ivazquez> Why don't we get rid of the "OS Developer" and "Web Dev or Admin" image links, and instead put those roles behind a "Other Roles" text link? 22:14 < ricky> Should we go for a separation of technical jobs from non-technical jobs? 22:14 < ricky> Like have the non-technical ones all in one section or in a separate page? 22:15 < mizmo> well the problem with that 22:15 < mizmo> is roles like docs can be non technical or they can be quite technical 22:15 < mizmo> same with artwork 22:15 < mizmo> eg charlie on the art team, he writes programs that generate artwork for us 22:15 < mizmo> and he wrote a plymouth theme 22:16 < ricky> Yeah, but when he first joined, did he have anything particular in mind? 22:16 < mizmo> also some folks who do admin work, they might not consider themselves programmers, they write scripts 22:16 < mizmo> i think he had an interest in graphics 22:16 < ricky> Ah 22:17 < ivazquez> The issue is not technical versus non-technical. 22:17 < ivazquez> The issue is programmer versus everything else. 22:17 < ricky> So what I said about getting a view of all parts of Fedora - I meant something kind of like this: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/index.xml?showlevel=2 22:18 < mizmo> oh i like that chart ricky 22:18 < ricky> So basically a listing of teams and what they do, so it's easy for somebody to say "hey, I can help with X task" 22:18 < mizmo> if i was an artist wanting to contribute to gentoo that might be confusing tho 22:19 < mizmo> like what is 'portage' ? 22:19 < ivazquez> I look at that chart and I'm lost. 22:19 < mizmo> what is 'pr' 22:19 < mizmo> but i like how projects are listed out with team members 22:19 < ivazquez> It's far too much for the average person to take in. 22:19 < ricky> I don't know about that. It does show off the huge number of ways to contribute 22:20 < mizmo> but its not clear what they are 22:20 < ricky> And I do prefer it to clicking through 20 wiki links 22:20 < mizmo> its like looking at an org chart to see how many different teams there are, which is nice, but if i try to examine each one its not clear what the team does 22:20 < ricky> I guess we kind of have fragments of a hart like that at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join 22:21 < ricky> But the teams are spread all around, and this information is hidden behind the 6 links on join.fp.o 22:21 < mizmo> rather than being org-chart based, our wiki join page is skills based 22:21 < ivazquez> I think Join needs to be separated out into subpages. Can MW do that? 22:22 < ricky> ivazquez: Yeah, ask ianweller when he's around 22:22 < ricky> Do we have a good ide aof what the problems are with the current join-fedora setup? 22:22 < ricky> **idea of 22:22 < ricky> Are there serious improvements that we can make on what we have now? 22:23 < ivazquez> I think this is what we need to find out. 22:23 < mizmo> well 22:23 < mizmo> i think: 22:23 < mizmo> 1) it's a bit lean on content. 22:23 < ricky> The number one failure right now I think is the big link to FAS 22:23 < mizmo> 2) it dumps you out to the wiki which is a bit disorienting. i think it would be better if the individual role pages were on fpo not on the wiki 22:24 < ricky> People end up going to FAS and thinking that the group list is all they have to look at 22:24 -!- warren [n=warren at redhat/wombat/warren] has quit "Leaving" 22:24 < ivazquez> Agreed. That grey box needs to go. 22:24 < ricky> Agreed 22:24 < rsc_> I think, we should describe some positiones and hand out some links. 22:24 < mizmo> 3) i agree dumping people out to fas is bad 22:24 < rsc_> and not directly a FAS link. 22:24 < mizmo> depending on the team they want to join this may be the absolutely wrong thing to do 22:24 < mizmo> we dont want people signing up for art group in FAS if they are new to fedora for example 22:24 < mizmo> it just creates annoying busywork 22:24 < mizmo> for the maintainers 22:24 < ivazquez> I don't think the role pages being in the wiki is bad. I just think that Join needs to be split up and the subpages need to be the targets. 22:25 < ricky> I don't think I've seen a single team that needs people to sign up for FAS in the first step 22:25 < rsc_> I think, each team needs a real "join" page, similar as the ambassadors have. 22:25 * ricky looks for the template link.. 22:25 < mizmo> ivazquez, actually two fudcons ago we did a usability test of fpo, and one of the comments that came up with our (admittedly sole tester) was he did not like how he kept being bounced back and forth between the wiki and the webpage 22:25 < baig> ? 22:25 < mizmo> if you are new and not used to fedora, it can be disorientating i think to be bounced between what look like two separate sites 22:25 < ivazquez> How did he get bounced back to the web page? 22:26 < mizmo> he was trying to download something i think? the test log is on the wiki somewhere 22:26 < baig> ? 22:26 < mizmo> we gave him 10 different tasks i think, i dont remember which one bounced him but 22:26 < ivazquez> It would be interesting to take a look at that. 22:26 < ricky> Here's an example of what onekopaka was working on for making join pages more consistent on the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Onekopaka/JoinTemplate 22:27 < ricky> It's really hard to avoid jumping to the wiki once you start looking at group-specific stuff 22:27 < mizmo> im looking for it 22:28 < mizmo> ricky, well i think that the descriptions we have in the join page on the wiki should be www.fpo.org, 22:28 -!- thekad [n=kad at 189.187.148.231] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:28 < ivazquez> Okay, I'm going to ask a really dumb, and potentially explosive question now. 22:28 < mizmo> i think the individual team links gonig to the wiki is okay, that's where the teams do their business 22:28 -!- gustavoeli [n=gustavoe at 189.136.159.251] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:28 < ivazquez> Now that we've replaced moin with MW, why can't we have the web pages be part of the wiki? 22:29 < rsc_> Still performance. 22:29 < mizmo> here is is ivazquez https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2008-June/msg00231.html 22:29 < ivazquez> Thanks. 22:29 -!- gustavoeli [n=gustavoe at 189.136.159.251] has quit "leaving" 22:29 < mizmo> - FAS - why can't I click on logo to go back to fedoraproject.org? 22:29 < mizmo> - why does it look so different than the Fedora site? 22:29 < ricky> I guess we probably could, once translations get worked out. We do get a bit more control over markup and everything with static pages, which has been really useful for stuff like get-fedora and the release countdown 22:29 < mizmo> it was FAS not the wiki 22:29 < mizmo> that threw him off 22:29 < mizmo> he didn't like that the site looked different and that the navigation was different 22:29 < ivazquez> Ah, yes. 22:29 -!- baig [n=baig at 202.143.112.106] has quit "Leaving" 22:29 < mizmo> and if u click on the fedora logo on the wiki, it brings you to the wiki front page 22:29 < mizmo> it doesn't bring you to the fpo front page 22:30 < ricky> Ahh, that's on the TODO lits 22:30 < ricky> **list 22:30 < mizmo> that came up in a few of the tasks 22:30 < mizmo> though 22:30 < mizmo> that he didnt like bouncing between sites 22:30 < mizmo> i would not like using the wiki for the fedora website 22:30 < mizmo> the wiki has a lot of baggage 22:30 < mizmo> and ui clutter you want to avoid in a proper website 22:30 < rsc_> ricky: well, using Wiki rather static files makes IMHO translation more hard 22:31 -!- themayor [n=jack at dsl081-200-018.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:31 < ricky> rsc_: Yeah, I hope translators like being able to translate fp.o using their normal tools :-) 22:32 < mizmo> i mean if we say the scope of the join.fpo page is to: 22:32 -!- Psychokwak is now known as Pikachu_2014 22:32 < mizmo> 1) attract new contributors 22:32 < rsc_> ricky: and I really like the small fast static pages rather the dynamic stuff which easily breaks away for us, once some servers hook up 22:32 < mizmo> 2) inform new contributors of the tasks they can do, the skills that are useful 22:32 < mizmo> 3) pass the contributors on in a smooth workflow to actually joining up with the individual groups they've selected 22:33 < ricky> I was thinking about 3) 22:33 < ricky> I'd say that the generic process for joining a group is: intro email to mailing list, talk to people, then FAS stuff 22:33 < mizmo> i think that the responsibility of join.fpo would be to have pages on fpo that describe the roles, and once you've decided, yes, this is what i want to do or learn more about, you get passed over to the wiki where that team can maintain their new recruit documentation 22:33 < ivazquez> Yeah, let's give contributors a single path to get to where they want to go. 22:33 < ricky> How many groups are an exception to this rule? 22:33 < mizmo> ricky, art team, we dont want people signing up for fas 22:34 < mizmo> and in the art team, we want people to grab an item from the design queue and complete it 22:34 < ricky> Is it a "This is what I want to do" or a "this is the team that I want to help" that you want users to leave with? 22:34 < rsc_> mizmo: but the art team is not the only team 22:34 < ivazquez> Honestly, I'd rather have the former. 22:34 < mizmo> rsc_, the art team is not the only team, but if there is one process for all teams it will break the art team, which is the point of my bringing up the art team's case. 22:34 < rsc_> mizmo: I think, there are more FAS requiring teams rather non-FAS requiring ones. 22:35 < mizmo> rsc_, does that mean the art team should change? 22:35 < mizmo> rsc_, im not sure why you bring this up, what is your suggestion? 22:35 < ivazquez> Why doesn't the Art team use FAS? 22:35 < mizmo> ivazquez, why should we use it? 22:35 < mizmo> ivazquez, you do not need ssh or cvs access to anything to use inkscape 22:35 < ricky> I'm not sure what we'd do on fp.o, I'd just like to have some level of consistency in the 10s of join pages that we have on the wiki 22:35 < rsc_> mizmo: we should have an overall look. I would guess, art team is nearly the only team 22:36 < mizmo> ivazquez, we do not want 100's of users signed up for the art group in FAS who we never hear from on our art list nor who never actually DO any work for the art team, which would be the scenario if we used the FAS for our joining process 22:36 < ivazquez> There probably is no need for it, perhaps until we get a gallery up. 22:36 < ricky> ivazquez: But then they have a next step, which is group-searching. Do you think that's a common point of confusion? 22:37 < mizmo> rsc_, again what are you suggesting though, that the art team change? just so things look consistent? 22:37 < ricky> Honestly, I wish we could have a more human element to this... I remember seeing a Fedora Mentors team, but it seems completely inactive at this point :-( 22:37 < ivazquez> I think people generally know if they're a talker, writer, or artist. 22:38 < rsc_> mizmo: would such a change hurt? 22:38 < mizmo> rsc_, YES 22:38 < mizmo> rsc_, very much. 22:38 < rsc_> mizmo: why? Just because of having inactive users? That we already also have at ambassadors, packagers etc. 22:39 < rsc_> Having people in a group also makes them informing more easily about something - e.g. via FAS. 22:39 < mizmo> rsc_, i really do not want to get into it. already as is with our process, people still sign up for the art group in FAS. i get maybe 20 requests a week. i have enough on my plate without sending 20 emails a week, 'please read the wiki page, im not granting u access kthxbai' 22:39 < rsc_> note, that there can be overall announcements for all art team people, can't they? 22:39 < ricky> As far as I can tell, the art group is just for tracking and possible fedorapeople access, @fp.o aliases, etc., is that right? 22:40 < ivazquez> Okay, some thoughts here. 22:40 < mizmo> rsc_, when we have votes about the theme, which is already quite controversial, i do not want to have to deal with the 100 requests for the art group in one day i got last time of people who have no interest in contributing artwork but only want to influence the theme vote 22:40 < ricky> I have a feeling that once FAS gets taken out of the front line, the apply spam will decrease 22:40 < ivazquez> 1) This whole FAS vs. non-FAS tiff here is unimportant. 22:40 < mizmo> i want to be able to hold art group only votes that are actually art group only votes 22:40 < ricky> Ah, and votes 22:40 < rsc_> ricky: +1 :) 22:40 < rsc_> ricky: I think, FAS is necessary - even if it's the wrong discussion ;) 22:40 < ricky> +1 to what ivazquez is saying 22:40 < mizmo> fas doesn't belong on the front page of join.fpo 22:40 < ivazquez> 2) We can allow it to be a bit trickier to join a group if we can convince people that joining is worth it. 22:41 < ricky> We should bring up no-apply groups some time 22:41 < ivazquez> 3) We need join-fedora to be a bit more of a brochure than it currently is. 22:42 -!- fab__ [n=bellet at bellet.info] has quit "Leaving" 22:42 < ricky> But there's also confusion about what belongs on fp.o, the wiki, and FAS 22:42 < mizmo> it would be nice if it were more human like ricky said. like i pick out what type of person i am - i'm a arty person. and i can fill out a form or something and it'll get me in touch with a real live human being, for a consultation or something to talk about what i could work on 22:42 < ivazquez> Right now it depends on the rest of Fedora to attract contributors. It's not standalone at all. 22:43 < ivazquez> If I were not using Fedora, hadn't heard about it, and all that, I'd take one look at join-fedora and say "So what? BFD.". 22:43 -!- onekopaka [n=9281fa64 at c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:43 < mizmo> it would be nice if we could view it as a lead-generation tool for a mentors group but like ricky said we dont really have an active mentors group 22:43 < ivazquez> It doesn't make me want to join. 22:43 < mizmo> it would be cool if it had profiles of people talking about their fedora joining process 22:43 < mizmo> like, 22:44 < ricky> On the other hand, some people might be intimidated by having an open field 22:44 < onekopaka> Sorry for being late 22:44 < ricky> We've had people send things closer to a resume to us, which is probably more formal than needed 22:44 < mizmo> "I was taking an electronics class and was using fedora electronics lab. I found a tool that needed changing to work for my class project. I joined the Fedora Electronics lab team and i was able to do blah blah that made things work awesome. yay me! yay fedora!" with a photo of the person 22:44 < ivazquez> Right now it's all about "Fedora, Fedora, Fedora!". Most people in the world don't care about Fedora. They care about "Me, me, me!". 22:44 < ricky> onekopaka: No worries, thanks for making it - we're talking about join-fedora again :-) 22:45 < ivazquez> So, we need to make it about them. 22:45 < mizmo> ivazquez, very good point 22:45 < mizmo> "I'm a digital artist and love making wallpapers. I joined the Fedora art team, and my artwork got used in Fedora! How cool is it to have my artwork be viewed by thousands and thousands of Fedora users? What great exposure!" --happy Fedora Art Team member 22:46 < ricky> At one point, mmcgrath had something like that under the Infrastructure section of the wiki 22:46 < mizmo> kind of gives you the 'whats in it for me' 22:46 -!- RohanRNS [n=rohan at c-24-23-136-148.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:46 < ricky> Mentioning all the benefits of getting involved 22:46 < ivazquez> Well we don't want that buried on some wiki page 10 clicks in. We want that on join-fedora. 22:46 < ricky> Yup 22:47 < ricky> Brochure was a really good way of putting it, that's exactly what we're looking for 22:47 < mizmo> "I'm into website hacking, so I joined the Fedora websites team. I met the love of my life! We've been married five years now, and we named our first child 'Fedora'! Thank you Fedora!" --blissfulinbrisbane 22:47 < ricky> Hahah 22:47 < mizmo> (sorry couldnt resist) 22:47 < rsc_> mizmo: so you want to have some kind of feedback like companies do for worse products? ;-) 22:47 < rsc_> mizmo: the typical "I bought that product and it made my day"? 22:48 < ivazquez> People buy the product because of those, don't kid yourself. 22:48 < rsc_> sorry, but I think, such a box already has a non-well taste. 22:48 < ricky> rsc_: There was some humor in what mizmo said ;-) 22:48 < onekopaka> Mozilla's Hendrix is good for feedback 22:48 < rsc_> ricky: yes, but the idea behind sounds realistic, even it got abused already 22:48 < ricky> It feels just like get-fedora. It's hard to cater to absolutely everybody 22:49 < mizmo> rsc_,no i am giving example little stories that could bring a human element to the page and also demonstrate specific benefits of joining fedora 22:49 < mizmo> rsc_, not typical 'omg this is awesome' actual examples 22:49 -!- QuickStart [n=QUICKSTA at pool-72-88-135-109.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 22:49 < mizmo> that i was being facetious shouldn't mean what i was saying was a bad idea 22:49 < mizmo> people like stories and narratives 22:50 < mizmo> it draws them in 22:50 < mizmo> well, authentic stories and narratives 22:51 < ricky> We'll have to balance it out to not have too much of ad/salesman feel to it, I guess 22:51 < mizmo> yeh absolutely 22:51 < mizmo> we could maybe have a set of 5 narratives and only one would show up on the page at a time so you're not inundated with it 22:51 < ivazquez> No, I think that's what we need. 22:52 < mizmo> or maybe, have one narrative for each path 22:52 < mizmo> eg one artsy narrative, one people person narrative, one techy person narrative 22:52 < ivazquez> We need to sell people on becoming a Fedora contributor. 22:52 < mizmo> so the person more directly learns what's in it for them in the specific field they are considering 22:52 < ricky> So one component to market Fedora to people, and then the next component is to make sure that the various wiki Join pages are approachable and hopefully somewhat consistent 22:52 < mizmo> yeh 22:52 < mizmo> and i think the marketing material belongs on FPO, but the details of joining are okay on the wiki 22:53 < ricky> Yeah, so it'll be two separate parts to work on 22:53 < onekopaka> I don't know if everyone saw Template:Join_template 22:53 < mizmo> we could dig in and do some of the reserach / wiki gardening to make sure the wiki side of it is up-to-date and approachable, but it's not sustainable in the long term, i think we need the individual teams maintaining them 22:53 < ricky> So how will a user get from the marketing page to joining a team once they're all sold on it? 22:54 < mizmo> ricky, we could do it kind of like the get fedora page lol, which might be kind of cheap but, 22:54 < ivazquez> Join Fedora! 22:54 < mizmo> well let me walk you through what i'm thinking 22:54 < mizmo> 1) i go to join.fedoraproject.org 22:54 < ivazquez> After the brochure, that should be all we need. 22:54 < ricky> onekopaka: Yeah, I linked everybody to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Onekopaka/JoinTemplate 22:54 < ivazquez> If we need more than that when we're doing it wrong. 22:54 < mizmo> i see a very nice splashy page that talks about how fedora is a community and how anybody can pitch in and help out, 22:54 < ivazquez> *then 22:55 < mizmo> and here's the type of people we need. which type of person are you? 22:55 < mizmo> 2) i click on the artsy person link, and i get the artsy person details page 22:55 < mizmo> on the artsy person details page, i see a testimonial from a fedora art team member about how being a member of the art team gave them so much exposure and great resume building experience 22:55 < ricky> Do we feel that the types and the content on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join could need some work as well? This goes back to the coder vs. non-coder again, I guess 22:55 < ivazquez> We should get rid of the icons and instead have pictures of current contributors doing the tasks instead. 22:56 < rsc_> Maybe we can rework the /wiki/Join into join.fp.o? 22:56 < mizmo> then i see a chart of the various teams that need artistic help. i see a description of how the docs team needs artists to draw diagrams fr the docs. towards the bottom of the docs team description box, it says, 'sound like fun to you?' next to it is a blue "join now!" button 22:56 < ricky> Picture 1: person staring at a computer, Picture 2: person staring at a computer :-D 22:56 < onekopaka> Ricky: it moved to the template namespace 22:56 < mizmo> 3) i click the blue join button and i'm whisked off to the join the docs team page on the wiki 22:56 < rsc_> ricky: nope. 22:56 < mizmo> ivazquez, i agree the icons were thrown together quickly and not meant to be used for this long lol 22:56 < onekopaka> The join template 22:56 < rsc_> ricky: one hackign at a computer, one talking with people, one working on graphics/figures. 22:56 < mizmo> i gotta run i got a bus to catch 22:56 < mizmo> later peeps 22:57 -!- mizmo is now known as mizmo-out 22:57 < ricky> mizmo: See you, thanks for helping out with this 22:57 < rsc_> ricky: but maybe as a comic-like picture, not as a real picture. 22:57 < ivazquez> Honestly, Join is fine where it is. 22:57 < ivazquez> No, real photos. 22:57 < mizmo-out> ricky, np 22:57 < ricky> Specifics like that can probably be worked out later 22:57 < ivazquez> I want people to see real people contributing to Fedora. 22:58 < mizmo-out> i think thats a good point ivazquez 22:58 < ricky> We do probably have a ton of great photography from FUDCon :-) 22:58 < rsc_> ivazquez: I meant using a real picture but making it comic-like. 22:58 < mizmo-out> a lot of folks at fudcon who had no contributed so much before said they felt more comfortable seeing people 22:58 < mizmo-out> it felt more like a community 22:58 < ricky> +1 22:59 < ivazquez> I want to see spevack standing in front of a group talking to them. I want to see mmcgrath standing in front of a whiteboard sketching out the network. 22:59 < ivazquez> I want to see people doing things for Fedora. 22:59 < rsc_> I want to see ricky designing a website :) 22:59 < ricky> Now that I think about it, those photos would be amazing 23:00 < ivazquez> Yes, the really would. 23:00 < rsc_> ivazquez: if we can resize the pictures well enough, that could get interesting 23:00 < ricky> So do you think the advertisement-like format will solve the "I need to be a coder" problem? 23:01 < ivazquez> No. 23:01 < rsc_> ricky: nope. Only the more human related things. 23:01 < mizmo-out> if they show people who aren't coders they will 23:01 < mizmo-out> really gotta run now lol 23:01 < ricky> OK, then we need to think about how to solve that 23:01 < ivazquez> Nothing other than a multi-million dollar advertising campaign will solve that. 23:01 < ricky> mizmo-out: Don't miss the bus for us :-) 23:01 < ivazquez> TV, newspapers, all that. 23:02 < ricky> I don't know. If we make this a *big* talking point, I think the press will get ahold of it a bit 23:02 < ivazquez> But we *can* solve the "contributing is not worth my time" problem. 23:02 < ricky> So at least it'd be known to people that read Fedora reviews and stuff like that 23:02 < ricky> For example, everybody associates Fedora with upstream contribution 23:03 < ricky> How hard would it be to associate ourselves with needing non-technical contributors as well? 23:04 < ivazquez> Eleventy-seven. 23:04 < ricky> Actually, I'm pretty sure we could bug stickster_afk into really pushing this point in interviews and stuff :-) 23:04 < rsc_> hard. Fedora is known as "geek distribution" when hearing the noise around. 23:05 < ricky> Heh, I prefer "really likes contributors" to "geek" :-) 23:06 < ricky> OK, so I think we have a much clearer vision of what we want to do with join-fedora now 23:07 < ricky> onekopaka: Improving the wiki join pages will be a big job as well, in addition to the join-fedora work. And I'll try to work on improving FAS for this as well (for example, making group/list much less prominent) 23:07 < onekopaka> Okay 23:08 < ricky> onekopaka: What was the new link to the join template again? 23:08 < ivazquez> I think we need to get rid of the grey box posthaste. 23:08 < onekopaka> I have robotics things to do 23:08 < ricky> ivazquez: Agreed 23:08 < onekopaka> Template:Join_template 23:09 < onekopaka> Bye 23:09 < ricky> See you 23:10 < ricky> stiv2k: Hey, if you're still around, I have a website edit that needs doing :-) 23:10 -!- onekopaka [n=9281fa64 at c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #fedora-meeting [] 23:10 < ricky> It's just deleting that box, but it'll get you used to the process of pushing changes to the site 23:11 < ricky> Anyway, this was a really useful meeting, everybody - thanks for coming! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I got this info from the "installation documentation" Section 3.3, in the table at the end of the section. -sinan kaptanoglu From tmz at pobox.com Tue Jan 13 02:57:15 2009 From: tmz at pobox.com (Todd Zullinger) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:57:15 -0500 Subject: Web page missing In-Reply-To: <200901112027.n0BKR925003618@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200901112027.n0BKR925003618@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090113025715.GT18365@inocybe.teonanacatl.org> sinan wrote: > The page http://fedoraproject.org/linux/releases/10/Fedora/arch/iso/ > is just fine. But the page > http://fedoraproject.org/linux/releases/10/Fedora/arch/iso/F-10-arch-DVD.iso > does not exist. The message is simply: "Sorry we could not find that file". > > This missing web page is advertised to be the place to download Fedora 10 > from. I got this info from the "installation documentation" Section 3.3, in > the table at the end of the section. The "arch" part is meant to be replaced with the architecture you want to download/install. The preceding sentence says: Replace arch with the architecture of the computer being installed. See section 3.2 for help choosing which architecture you need. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-which-arch.html -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Formerly we suffered from crimes; now we suffer from laws. -- Publius Cornelius Tacitus, Roman historian, AD 56 - c. 120 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Above the table, the page states, "The following table explains where to find the desired files on a mirror site. Replace arch with the architecture of the computer being installed." For information on deciding which architecture to use, see http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-which-arch.html. Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From el.pastas at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 16:51:34 2009 From: el.pastas at gmail.com (Mindaugas) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:51:34 +0200 Subject: bad urls Message-ID: <496CC696.2070604@gmail.com> Hi, All links in http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ have two slashes after "torrent". Like: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-10-x86_64-Live.torrent cheers ;) From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 14 20:06:12 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (seth vidal) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:06:12 -0500 Subject: bad urls In-Reply-To: <496CC696.2070604@gmail.com> References: <496CC696.2070604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1231963572.14403.1563.camel@rosebud> On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 18:51 +0200, Mindaugas wrote: > Hi, > > All links in http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ have two slashes after > "torrent". > Like: > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-10-x86_64-Live.torrent > > cheers ;) It's just an artifact of assembling the url. It doesn't hurt the url or make it break. -sv From mg at hacka.net Fri Jan 16 14:08:59 2009 From: mg at hacka.net (Magnus Glantz) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:08:59 +0100 Subject: Join page changes and related Message-ID: <1232114939.3836.106.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello there, Anyone got a link to the new join-fedora page? If there is none. Will the "roles" (Content Writer, OS Developer, etc) of today change? I've done a change to the Wiki join page to clarify how and where you may contribute to the Fedora sub-projects. I've added an 'Examples of where and how you can contribute in this role:' section. See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join#Content_Writer This is to make it simpler to join and to get the information needed for a decision on becoming a contributor. Hopefully this increases contribution to the different Fedora sub-project. I also thought about implementing a standard "Where and how you can contribute" table for each sub-project. This is again to simplify the join process and increase the number of contributors. I also believe this may increase movement between sub-projects and number of people that contribute to several projects. Example of how that may look like: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Magnusg/Contribution_table_draft So.. I wonder how and if the new fedora-join page may affect the implementation of this standard "Where and how can yo contribute" table for each sub-project? -- Best regards, Magnus 'magnusg' Glantz E-mail: mg -at- hacka -dot- net GPG Key: 0DB53317 Fingerprint: DDCE BD02 793C 5C2E 8C5C 3FE9 1E1E 7593 0DB5 3317 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Magnusg From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 17:00:31 2009 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:00:31 -0500 Subject: Join page changes and related In-Reply-To: <1232114939.3836.106.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1232114939.3836.106.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1232125231.12251.244.camel@ignacio.lan> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:08 +0100, Magnus Glantz wrote: > Hello there, > > Anyone got a link to the new join-fedora page? > > If there is none. Will the "roles" (Content Writer, OS Developer, etc) > of today change? They will disappear completely, and instead the page will become a brochure extolling the virtues of becoming a Fedora contributor, with a link to /wiki/Join at the bottom. See the transcript of the latest Websites group meeting for details. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 20:40:39 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:40:39 -0500 Subject: Join page changes and related In-Reply-To: <1232125231.12251.244.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1232114939.3836.106.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232125231.12251.244.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <4970F0C7.2020609@fedoraproject.org> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:08 +0100, Magnus Glantz wrote: >> Hello there, >> >> Anyone got a link to the new join-fedora page? >> >> If there is none. Will the "roles" (Content Writer, OS Developer, etc) >> of today change? > > They will disappear completely, and instead the page will become a > brochure extolling the virtues of becoming a Fedora contributor, with a > link to /wiki/Join at the bottom. See the transcript of the latest > Websites group meeting for details. Actually I didn't think of them as disappearing. I thought we'd have a 'brochure' per role describing it... ~m From mg at hacka.net Fri Jan 16 21:26:54 2009 From: mg at hacka.net (Magnus Glantz) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:26:54 +0100 Subject: Join page changes and related In-Reply-To: <1232125231.12251.244.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <1232114939.3836.106.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232125231.12251.244.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <1232141214.8482.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> fre 2009-01-16 klockan 12:00 -0500 skrev Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams: > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:08 +0100, Magnus Glantz wrote: > > Hello there, > > > > Anyone got a link to the new join-fedora page? > > > > If there is none. Will the "roles" (Content Writer, OS Developer, etc) > > of today change? > > They will disappear completely, and instead the page will become a > brochure extolling the virtues of becoming a Fedora contributor, with a > link to /wiki/Join at the bottom. See the transcript of the latest > Websites group meeting for details. > So, will the /wiki/Join page will still feature "roles"? -- Best regards, Magnus 'magnusg' Glantz E-mail: mg -at- hacka -dot- net GPG Key: 0DB53317 Fingerprint: DDCE BD02 793C 5C2E 8C5C 3FE9 1E1E 7593 0DB5 3317 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Magnusg From mg at hacka.net Fri Jan 16 21:49:55 2009 From: mg at hacka.net (Magnus Glantz) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:49:55 +0100 Subject: Join page changes and related In-Reply-To: <4970F0C7.2020609@fedoraproject.org> References: <1232114939.3836.106.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232125231.12251.244.camel@ignacio.lan> <4970F0C7.2020609@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232142595.8482.67.camel@localhost.localdomain> fre 2009-01-16 klockan 15:40 -0500 skrev M?ir??n Duffy: > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:08 +0100, Magnus Glantz wrote: > >> Hello there, > >> > >> Anyone got a link to the new join-fedora page? > >> > >> If there is none. Will the "roles" (Content Writer, OS Developer, etc) > >> of today change? > > > > They will disappear completely, and instead the page will become a > > brochure extolling the virtues of becoming a Fedora contributor, with a > > link to /wiki/Join at the bottom. See the transcript of the latest > > Websites group meeting for details. > > Actually I didn't think of them as disappearing. I thought we'd have a > 'brochure' per role describing it... > > ~m > I see. Well, if so, there is no problem using "roles" on the Wiki sub-project pages. Do you think the brochure roles pages may feature links to the corresponding role section on the /wiki/join page (as it is now)? -- Best regards, Magnus 'magnusg' Glantz E-mail: mg -at- hacka -dot- net GPG Key: 0DB53317 Fingerprint: DDCE BD02 793C 5C2E 8C5C 3FE9 1E1E 7593 0DB5 3317 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Magnusg From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 21:52:05 2009 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:52:05 -0500 Subject: Join page changes and related In-Reply-To: <1232141214.8482.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1232114939.3836.106.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232125231.12251.244.camel@ignacio.lan> <1232141214.8482.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1232142725.12251.255.camel@ignacio.lan> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 22:26 +0100, Magnus Glantz wrote: > fre 2009-01-16 klockan 12:00 -0500 skrev Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams: > > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:08 +0100, Magnus Glantz wrote: > > > Hello there, > > > > > > Anyone got a link to the new join-fedora page? > > > > > > If there is none. Will the "roles" (Content Writer, OS Developer, etc) > > > of today change? > > > > They will disappear completely, and instead the page will become a > > brochure extolling the virtues of becoming a Fedora contributor, with a > > link to /wiki/Join at the bottom. See the transcript of the latest > > Websites group meeting for details. > > > > So, will the /wiki/Join page will still feature "roles"? Yes, that's the plan. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Today's Topics: 1. niftylivechart (Dheeraj Gupta) 2. fedora-community in Chrome (Eddy DeCoste) 3. Re: niftylivechart (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) 4. [Fwd: fedora-community in Chrome] (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:34:44 +0530 From: "Dheeraj Gupta" Subject: niftylivechart To: Message-ID: <20090120100439.38A6A139010B at mailbox-us-s-7b.mailhostingserver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear sir, The site niftylivechart is not working, can you share me with the information of contact details of mentioned site. Thanks & regards Dheeraj Gupta BCL Engineers Pvt Ltd. C - 84 Lajpat Nagar - II New Delhi -110024 Ph: 29819028, 29813837, 28898368 Mobile: 9312202672 Email: dheeraj_gupta at bclindia.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Tue Jan 20 20:53:03 2009 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst H. von Brand) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:53:03 -0300 Subject: Bad spelling in "About FAS" Message-ID: <497639AF.1090402@inf.utfsm.cl> Near the end of it says "disctinction" From johnp at redhat.com Tue Jan 20 23:50:51 2009 From: johnp at redhat.com (John Palmieri) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:50:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fwd: fedora-community in Chrome] In-Reply-To: <1232483225.4002.30.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <2013868026.670331232495451901.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Thanks - the issue is annoying because I'm not getting a very good error report from any of the browsers which exhibit this behaviour. The interesting bit is fedora-community itself works fine in WebKit, Opera and even KHTML which is usually the most broken. The project page itself was a proof of concept for some of the dynamic loading bits so there might be a small piece of code that is setting off the other browser engines but not firefox. If anyone can get a detailed traceback that would be helpful. The good news is all of those engines are seeing the same thing so I belive if I fix one of them there is a good chance the others will follow. It may just be as simple as upgrading the jQuery bits. ----- "Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams" wrote: > For your consideration. > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Eddy DeCoste > To: webmaster at fedoraproject.org > Subject: fedora-community in Chrome > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:22:37 -0800 > > http://johnp.fedorapeople.org/fedora-community/ in Chrome browser > doesn't work. It is stuck in the loading phase. > > -- > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -- -- John (J5) Palmieri Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. From mediahack at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 23:57:24 2009 From: mediahack at gmail.com (Eddy DeCoste) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:57:24 -0800 Subject: [Fwd: fedora-community in Chrome] In-Reply-To: <2013868026.670331232495451901.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> References: <1232483225.4002.30.camel@ignacio.lan> <2013868026.670331232495451901.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Message-ID: <42ab88b60901201557w10479900pe7058eb21e074b92@mail.gmail.com> John, My Info: Windows XP64 Google Chrome 1.1 Looking at the Chrome JS debugger here is what the console told me on loading the page: Resource interpreted as image but transferred with MIME type text/html. http://johnp.fedorapeople.org/fedora-community/~johnp/fedora-community/None Whatever this is could be halting the v8 engine. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Palmieri wrote: > Thanks - the issue is annoying because I'm not getting a very good error > report from any of the browsers which exhibit this behaviour. The > interesting bit is fedora-community itself works fine in WebKit, Opera and > even KHTML which is usually the most broken. The project page itself was a > proof of concept for some of the dynamic loading bits so there might be a > small piece of code that is setting off the other browser engines but not > firefox. If anyone can get a detailed traceback that would be helpful. The > good news is all of those engines are seeing the same thing so I belive if I > fix one of them there is a good chance the others will follow. It may just > be as simple as upgrading the jQuery bits. > > ----- "Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams" wrote: > > > For your consideration. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Eddy DeCoste > > To: webmaster at fedoraproject.org > > Subject: fedora-community in Chrome > > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:22:37 -0800 > > > > http://johnp.fedorapeople.org/fedora-community/ in Chrome browser > > doesn't work. It is stuck in the loading phase. > > > > -- > > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams > > -- > -- > John (J5) Palmieri > Software Engineer > Red Hat, Inc. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnp at redhat.com Wed Jan 21 20:32:12 2009 From: johnp at redhat.com (John Palmieri) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:32:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Fwd: fedora-community in Chrome] In-Reply-To: <42ab88b60901201557w10479900pe7058eb21e074b92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <606997978.954851232569932805.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Thanks - fixed under Safari(webkit), Madori(gtk-webkit), Firefox and Opera. KHTML apparently can't handle try/except or at least it can't do so without throwing up a dialogue because things seem to work if I hit ok but pop up again when I go to another page. Chrome should work but I don't have a windows box. Once I saw that it was trying to fetch a wrong url (johnp.fedorapeople.org/fedora-community/~johnp/fedora-community) I realized the issue was a baseurl tag. I guess different engines handle that differently. The Firefox bug was me commenting out sections to find where the issues were and then forgetting to uncomment it. I guess I was getting a cached page in Firefox so I though I had uncommented it. As for the page load time, right now I am using the fullblown jQuery for debugging and not the compressed version. Once we determine what bits are used the most I may end up compiling them into one js file. Once the files are cached however, it is pretty fast. I'll look into loading after the body tag also. Thanks for the detective work. ----- "Eddy DeCoste" wrote: > John, > > > My Info: > Windows XP64 > Google Chrome 1.1 > > > Looking at the Chrome JS debugger here is what the console told me on > loading the page: > > > Resource interpreted as image but transferred with MIME type > text/html. > http://johnp.fedorapeople.org/fedora-community/~johnp/fedora-community/None > > > Whatever this is could be halting the v8 engine. > > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Palmieri < johnp at redhat.com > > wrote: > > > Thanks - the issue is annoying because I'm not getting a very good > error report from any of the browsers which exhibit this behaviour. > The interesting bit is fedora-community itself works fine in WebKit, > Opera and even KHTML which is usually the most broken. The project > page itself was a proof of concept for some of the dynamic loading > bits so there might be a small piece of code that is setting off the > other browser engines but not firefox. If anyone can get a detailed > traceback that would be helpful. The good news is all of those engines > are seeing the same thing so I belive if I fix one of them there is a > good chance the others will follow. It may just be as simple as > upgrading the jQuery bits. > > > > > ----- "Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams" < ivazqueznet at gmail.com > wrote: > > > For your consideration. > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Eddy DeCoste < mediahack at gmail.com > > > To: webmaster at fedoraproject.org > > Subject: fedora-community in Chrome > > Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:22:37 -0800 > > > > http://johnp.fedorapeople.org/fedora-community/ in Chrome browser > > doesn't work. It is stuck in the loading phase. > > > > -- > > Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams < ivazqueznet at gmail.com > > > -- > -- > John (J5) Palmieri > Software Engineer > Red Hat, Inc. -- -- John (J5) Palmieri Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. From poelstra at redhat.com Thu Jan 22 20:12:52 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:12:52 -0800 Subject: Alpha Release Readiness Message-ID: <4978D344.3030201@redhat.com> With the Alpha Release for Fedora 11 scheduled for Tuesday, February 3, 2009, this means it is time to meet again with representatives from each of the teams to have our release readiness meeting. We usually have this meeting at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST) the Wednesday before, which means next Wednesday, January 28, 2009, is the day. On Monday, January 26, 2009, I will be sending out the dial-in information and a meeting reminder to all the attendees. In the meantime I need to know who will be representing your group at these meetings for the Fedora 11 meetings. Usually this is the designated team leader, but I wanted to ask to make sure you coordinate within your team to make sure someone comes. When responding to this list, please CC me so that I am sure to see the reply. This message is going out to the respective mailings lists for these groups: Ambassadors Artwork/Design Documentation FESCo Infrastructure Marketing Quality Release Engineering Translation Websites Thanks, John From DavidF at adsr.co.il Fri Jan 23 16:55:56 2009 From: DavidF at adsr.co.il (David Fleischer) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:55:56 +0200 Subject: DVD images not there Message-ID: <2E1E96C9CDCD4EC18CC95B49DD12F7E7@adsr1> Hey, How come the DVD .iso images are off and on not to be found at the link? Thanks, David David L. Fleischer ADSR Ha Ayin-Khet 15 Jerusalem 95112 Israel Cell: +972 (0)52 364-2126 Land/fax: +972 (0)2 626-0342 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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( https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/cla/) There is a typing error in point five misspelling "patents" as "atents". Quite embarrassing for a legal agreement, but it should be easy to fix. Best Regards, Christoph Wurm (legate) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From craigt at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 24 15:36:47 2009 From: craigt at fedoraproject.org (Craig Thomas) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:36:47 -0500 Subject: Hello, I am having trouble launching Fedora to internet In-Reply-To: <1232666498.3405.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1232666498.3405.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2009/1/22 Leroy Klassen : The webmaster at fedoraproject.org address is only for issues related to Fedora's websites. For general Fedora support, please refer to the help resources described at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate. OR http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help Cheers, -- Craig Thomas From craigt at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 24 15:38:22 2009 From: craigt at fedoraproject.org (Craig Thomas) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:38:22 -0500 Subject: fedora core 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/1/22 Tony/dikai : > i am aft er this version as i have the book for it so i can learn so if u > plz can help me so i get it i would be most humble and happy. thz for a > great op. Hi Tony, Fedora Core 4 has been EOL for over 2 years. Fedora 9 and 10 are currently supported. I would highly recommend you stick with currently supported Fedora. However, we do archive older releases. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life http://archive.fedoraproject.org The webmaster at fedoraproject.org address is only for issues related to Fedora's websites. For general Fedora support, please refer to the help resources described at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate. Or here http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help. Cheers, -- Craig Thomas From craigt at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 24 16:05:13 2009 From: craigt at fedoraproject.org (Craig Thomas) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:05:13 -0500 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/1/24 Christoph Wurm : > Dear Website Maintainers, > > apparently there are very few people who actually read the Fedora > Contributor License Agreement. > (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/cla/) > There is a typing error in point five misspelling "patents" as "atents". > Quite embarrassing for a legal agreement, but it should be easy to fix. > > Best Regards, > > Christoph Wurm (legate) Thank you for the close reading. We will get this fixed. -- Craig Thomas From bicycle.nutz at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 16:11:27 2009 From: bicycle.nutz at gmail.com (Craig Thomas) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:11:27 -0500 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/1/24 Christoph Wurm : > Dear Website Maintainers, > > apparently there are very few people who actually read the Fedora > Contributor License Agreement. > (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/cla/) > There is a typing error in point five misspelling "patents" as "atents". > Quite embarrassing for a legal agreement, but it should be easy to fix. > Who here has access to the FAS git repo? diff --git a/fas/templates/cla/cla.html b/fas/templates/cla/cla.html index 865f586..e0269d9 100644 --- a/fas/templates/cla/cla.html +++ b/fas/templates/cla/cla.html @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ You represent that you are legally entitled to grant the above license. If your employer(s) has rights to intellectual property that you create that includes your Contributions, you represent that you have received permission to make Contributions on behalf of that employer, that your employer has waived such rights for your Contributions to the Project, or that your employer has executed a separate Corporate CLA with the Project.
  • - You represent that each of your Contributions is your original creation (see section 7 for submissions on behalf of others). You represent that your Contribution submission(s) include complete details of any third-party license or other restriction (including, but not limited to, related copyright, atents and trademarks) of which you are personally aware and which are associated with any part of your Contribution. + You represent that each of your Contributions is your original creation (see section 7 for submissions on behalf of others). You represent that your Contribution submission(s) include complete details of any third-party license or other restriction (including, but not limited to, related copyright, patents and trademarks) of which you are personally aware and which are associated with any part of your Contribution.
  • You are not expected to provide support for your Contributions, except to the extent you desire to provide support. You may provide support for free, for a fee, or not at all. Your Contributions are provided on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied, including, without limitation, any warranties or conditions of NON-INFRINGEMENT, MERCHANTABILITY, or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. diff --git a/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt b/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt index 37f7caf..1439d80 100644 --- a/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt +++ b/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt @@ -119,7 +119,7 @@ ${person.postal_address} You represent that your Contribution submission(s) include complete details of any third-party license or other restriction (including, but not limited to, related copyright, - atents and trademarks) of which you are personally aware and + patents and trademarks) of which you are personally aware and which are associated with any part of your Contribution. 6. You are not expected to provide support for your Contributions, From onekopaka at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 17:10:36 2009 From: onekopaka at gmail.com (Darren VanBuren) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:10:36 -0800 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497B4B8C.50207@gmail.com> On 1/24/2009 8:11 AM, Craig Thomas wrote: > 2009/1/24 Christoph Wurm: > >> Dear Website Maintainers, >> >> apparently there are very few people who actually read the Fedora >> Contributor License Agreement. >> (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/cla/) >> There is a typing error in point five misspelling "patents" as "atents". >> Quite embarrassing for a legal agreement, but it should be easy to fix. >> >> > > Who here has access to the FAS git repo? > > diff --git a/fas/templates/cla/cla.html b/fas/templates/cla/cla.html > index 865f586..e0269d9 100644 > --- a/fas/templates/cla/cla.html > +++ b/fas/templates/cla/cla.html > @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ > You represent that you are legally entitled to grant the above > license. If your employer(s) has rights to intellectual property that > you create that includes your Contributions, you represent that you > have received permission to make Contributions on behalf of that > employer, that your employer has waived such rights for your > Contributions to the Project, or that your employer has executed a > separate Corporate CLA with the Project. >
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  • > - You represent that each of your Contributions is your original > creation (see section 7 for submissions on behalf of others). You > represent that your Contribution submission(s) include complete > details of any third-party license or other restriction (including, > but not limited to, related copyright, atents and trademarks) of which > you are personally aware and which are associated with any part of > your Contribution. > + You represent that each of your Contributions is your original > creation (see section 7 for submissions on behalf of others). You > represent that your Contribution submission(s) include complete > details of any third-party license or other restriction (including, > but not limited to, related copyright, patents and trademarks) of > which you are personally aware and which are associated with any part > of your Contribution. >
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  • > You are not expected to provide support for your Contributions, > except to the extent you desire to provide support. You may provide > support for free, for a fee, or not at all. Your Contributions are > provided on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY > KIND, either express or implied, including, without limitation, any > warranties or conditions of NON-INFRINGEMENT, MERCHANTABILITY, or > FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. > diff --git a/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt b/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt > index 37f7caf..1439d80 100644 > --- a/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt > +++ b/fas/templates/cla/cla.txt > @@ -119,7 +119,7 @@ ${person.postal_address} > You represent that your Contribution submission(s) include > complete details of any third-party license or other > restriction (including, but not limited to, related copyright, > - atents and trademarks) of which you are personally aware and > + patents and trademarks) of which you are personally aware and > which are associated with any part of your Contribution. > > 6. You are not expected to provide support for your Contributions, > > Has this change taken effect on the Wiki? I may have git access, but I've never set it up. From hydra84 at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 17:20:50 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:20:50 +0100 Subject: Fedora Alpha release banner Message-ID: <497B4DF2.5030504@gmail.com> Hi there, here you can find a simple "Fedora 11 alpha release banner" for the home page: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.png http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.svg If it's good for you, I'll upload soon on the wiki. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org GPG fingerprint: DAD1 6419 D42B 0B1C D9E1 A9CB 4587 4812 17F7 F764 From onekopaka at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 17:34:53 2009 From: onekopaka at gmail.com (Darren VanBuren) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:34:53 -0800 Subject: Fedora Alpha release banner In-Reply-To: <497B4DF2.5030504@gmail.com> References: <497B4DF2.5030504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <497B513D.3090800@gmail.com> On 1/24/2009 9:20 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > Hi there, > here you can find a simple "Fedora 11 alpha release banner" for the home > page: > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.svg > > If it's good for you, I'll upload soon on the wiki. > > The 11 is kinda hard to see, try making it pure white. From hydra84 at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 17:59:21 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:59:21 +0100 Subject: Fedora 11 Alpha - release banner In-Reply-To: <497B513D.3090800@gmail.com> References: <497B4DF2.5030504@gmail.com> <497B513D.3090800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <497B56F9.1010908@gmail.com> Darren VanBuren ha scritto: > On 1/24/2009 9:20 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: >> Hi there, >> here you can find a simple "Fedora 11 alpha release banner" for the home >> page: >> >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.png >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.svg >> >> If it's good for you, I'll upload soon on the wiki. >> >> > The 11 is kinda hard to see, try making it pure white. > I apologize if I've started a new thread, I've mistaken the previous subject. the new try: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5e.png http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5e.svg -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org GPG fingerprint: DAD1 6419 D42B 0B1C D9E1 A9CB 4587 4812 17F7 F764 From onekopaka at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 18:29:43 2009 From: onekopaka at gmail.com (Darren VanBuren) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:29:43 -0800 Subject: Fedora 11 Alpha - release banner In-Reply-To: <497B56F9.1010908@gmail.com> References: <497B4DF2.5030504@gmail.com> <497B513D.3090800@gmail.com> <497B56F9.1010908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <497B5E17.7060605@gmail.com> On 1/24/2009 9:59 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > Darren VanBuren ha scritto: > >> On 1/24/2009 9:20 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> here you can find a simple "Fedora 11 alpha release banner" for the home >>> page: >>> >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.png >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.svg >>> >>> If it's good for you, I'll upload soon on the wiki. >>> >>> >>> >> The 11 is kinda hard to see, try making it pure white. >> >> > > I apologize if I've started a new thread, I've mistaken the previous > subject. > > the new try: > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5e.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5e.svg > > Much better. From a.badger at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 08:10:36 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:36 -0800 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: <497B4B8C.50207@gmail.com> References: <497B4B8C.50207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <497C1E7C.5050105@gmail.com> Darren VanBuren wrote: > On 1/24/2009 8:11 AM, Craig Thomas wrote: >> 2009/1/24 Christoph Wurm: >> >>> Dear Website Maintainers, >>> >>> apparently there are very few people who actually read the Fedora >>> Contributor License Agreement. >>> (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/cla/) >>> There is a typing error in point five misspelling "patents" as "atents". >>> Quite embarrassing for a legal agreement, but it should be easy to fix. >>> Thanks for giving us a nudge about this but please remember that the CLA is a legal document. So we need to run changes by spot (who can decide if we need to run the changes by a lawyer) before making them. The issue with the typo is listed on this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues but it's been there for quite a while. Spot, any word on what we should do about this? -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From tcallawa at redhat.com Sun Jan 25 16:04:09 2009 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:04:09 -0500 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: <497C1E7C.5050105@gmail.com> References: <497B4B8C.50207@gmail.com> <497C1E7C.5050105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <497C8D79.4090906@redhat.com> Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > The issue with the typo is listed on this page: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues > > but it's been there for quite a while. Spot, any word on what we should > do about this? Please just fix it. "atents" is not a word, so we do not have to worry about the legal interpretations of making such a change. ~spot From smooge at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 16:58:57 2009 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen John Smoogen) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:57 -0700 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: <497C8D79.4090906@redhat.com> References: <497B4B8C.50207@gmail.com> <497C1E7C.5050105@gmail.com> <497C8D79.4090906@redhat.com> Message-ID: <80d7e4090901250858y7a851b5bl49a1452bb4d81345@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> The issue with the typo is listed on this page: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues >> >> but it's been there for quite a while. Spot, any word on what we should >> do about this? > > Please just fix it. "atents" is not a word, so we do not have to worry about > the legal interpretations of making such a change. Could we check to see how this got this way... I don't remember it being atents before the mediawiki changeover.. but my memory could be fuzzy. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" From ianweller at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 20:26:18 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:26:18 -0600 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: <80d7e4090901250858y7a851b5bl49a1452bb4d81345@mail.gmail.com> References: <497B4B8C.50207@gmail.com> <497C1E7C.5050105@gmail.com> <497C8D79.4090906@redhat.com> <80d7e4090901250858y7a851b5bl49a1452bb4d81345@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090125202618.GA12052@gmail.com> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 09:58:57AM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Could we check to see how this got this way... I don't remember it > being atents before the mediawiki changeover.. but my memory could be > fuzzy. > Here's the oldest revision available to MediaWiki: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Legal:Licenses/CLA&oldid=18362 -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ricky at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 26 08:20:49 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:20:49 -0500 Subject: Websites Meeting Times Message-ID: <20090126082049.GA20614@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Hey, I just realized that I won't be able to make websites meetings at 20:00 UTC anymore. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hydra84 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 09:24:53 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:24:53 +0100 Subject: Fedora 11 Alpha - release banner In-Reply-To: <497B5E17.7060605@gmail.com> References: <497B4DF2.5030504@gmail.com> <497B513D.3090800@gmail.com> <497B56F9.1010908@gmail.com> <497B5E17.7060605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <497D8165.2090107@gmail.com> Darren VanBuren ha scritto: > On 1/24/2009 9:59 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: >> Darren VanBuren ha scritto: >> >>> On 1/24/2009 9:20 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> here you can find a simple "Fedora 11 alpha release banner" for the >>>> home >>>> page: >>>> >>>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.png >>>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5c.svg >>>> >>>> If it's good for you, I'll upload soon on the wiki. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> The 11 is kinda hard to see, try making it pure white. >>> >>> >> >> I apologize if I've started a new thread, I've mistaken the previous >> subject. >> >> the new try: >> >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5e.png >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5e.svg >> >> > Much better. > For your convenience, I've uploaded the banner on wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora11alpha-banner.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora11alpha-banner.svg -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org GPG fingerprint: DAD1 6419 D42B 0B1C D9E1 A9CB 4587 4812 17F7 F764 From a.badger at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 18:18:56 2009 From: a.badger at gmail.com (Toshio Kuratomi) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:18:56 -0800 Subject: Typo in Fedora CLA In-Reply-To: <497C8D79.4090906@redhat.com> References: <497B4B8C.50207@gmail.com> <497C1E7C.5050105@gmail.com> <497C8D79.4090906@redhat.com> Message-ID: <497DFE90.10403@gmail.com> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> The issue with the typo is listed on this page: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLegalIssues >> >> but it's been there for quite a while. Spot, any word on what we should >> do about this? > > Please just fix it. "atents" is not a word, so we do not have to worry > about the legal interpretations of making such a change. > Ricky has fixed this in the fas trunk. Thanks Ricky! No hotfix applied to the server at this time due to being in a change freeze until after the Fedora alpha release. -Toshio -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since we usually only have a few people show up at > meetings, do you think there's a (single) time that would be better for > meetings? > > With my schedule, I'll probably only be around after about 5:00 PM EST > on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays (and "free" on weekends). > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Meeting_availability_times Of course I recommend setting up a matrix on the wiki to see who can attend during what time slots. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"atents" is not a word, so we do not have to worry about > > the legal interpretations of making such a change. > > Could we check to see how this got this way... I don't remember it > being atents before the mediawiki changeover.. but my memory could be > fuzzy. > I took this as an opportunity to do an audit to see exactly when / how it did get introduce. It's been like that since June 25 2004 when the old account system converted from using a straight fedora-icla.txt to the fedora-icla-template.txt. This particular defect was introduced when: (including, but not limited to, related patents and trademarks) Got changed to: (including, but not limited to, related copyright, atents and trademarks) Interestingly, the very first wiki CLA import I could find didn't contain this typo so there must have been another canonical location it was taken from: http://fedoraproject.org/wikiold/Legal/Licenses/CLA?action=recall&rev=6 It may have been that Patrick saw and fixed it in this wiki initial import. Also interestingly is that during our FAS2 development, we pulled the bad CLA. But before deploying FAS2, the cla was actually fixed in FAS1 :) So it was actually correct for at least a short time before FAS2 got deployed. Anywho, as you can see, we have lots of auditing on stuff like this should we ever need it :) hope you enjoyed reading the brief timeline of the creation of "atents" as I enjoyed investigating it! -Mike From poelstra at redhat.com Tue Jan 27 23:45:16 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:45:16 -0800 Subject: Fedora 11 Schedule Message-ID: <497F9C8C.2090703@redhat.com> I have complete a draft of the Web team schedule for Fedora 11. http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-web-tasks.html Please review the reports in detail to make sure I have the correct dates and task durations. If you like we can schedule a time to meet on IRC or phone to work out any remaining changes. We will also touch on some of these tasks at the release readiness meeting. If I do not hear any feedback by Monday, February 2, 2009, I will assume that the schedule is correct. Thanks, John From kamisamanou at kamisamanou.net Wed Jan 28 04:27:23 2009 From: kamisamanou at kamisamanou.net (Kamisamanou Burgess) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:27:23 -0600 Subject: Websites Meeting Times In-Reply-To: <20090127134620.GA5531@gmail.com> References: <20090126082049.GA20614@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <20090126230244.GA29260@gmail.com> <5dbb83710901262133o64d3923ak3674b875a0a3b38a@mail.gmail.com> <20090127134620.GA5531@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5dbb83710901272027o2ed65b27l88931fb43bd3a83b@mail.gmail.com> This actually looks good. I think it would be good if each person available at a certain time placed a tally in the box(s) correspond to the best time slot. The one with the most tally markings would then be the best time for the meeting. Sayonara, Kamisamanou Burgess http://www.kamisamanou.net On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:46, Ian Weller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:33:07PM -0600, Kamisamanou Burgess wrote: > > Is it online or should I create it? > > > I was working on a template and got interrupted. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Meeting_matrix > > If you wanna mess with that go ahead, otherwise I"ll try and make one > after school today. > > Also be aware that the email you sent to me was not sent to the list. > > -- > Ian Weller > > http://ianweller.org > GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 > "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." > ~ Douglas Adams > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, ~m From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Jan 30 23:31:12 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:31:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: x86_64 and get.fpo In-Reply-To: <49835751.5030101@fedoraproject.org> References: <49835751.5030101@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hey folks, > > A couple of desktop devels brought to my attention that we > actually make it easier to download ppc than x86_64, the > latter which is likely a lot more common. > > I think we can approach solving this in a few different ways: > > 1. Add another button for x86_64, and place it above the PPC > button. > > 2. Take away the PPC button, and replace it with a 'Other > Architectures: x86_64, ppc, etc.' button. > > Any ideas? > I have no ideas but I do have data: i686: 73.8% x86_64: 25.7% ppc: 0.5% http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html So yes, we should make it easier to get x86_64 :) -Mike