[Freeipa-devel] LDAP schema for PKCS#11

Stef Walter swalter at redhat.com
Mon Mar 3 13:52:17 UTC 2014


On 03.03.2014 14:30, Petr Spacek wrote:
> On 3.3.2014 13:49, Jan Cholasta wrote:
>> On 3.3.2014 12:51, Ludwig Krispenz wrote:
>>> starting a new thread, after a lot of discussion and feedback, which I
>>> tried to integrate into thecurrent draft at:
>>> https://fedorahosted.org/bind-dyndb-ldap/wiki/BIND9/Design/pkcs11Schema
> I have added couple links and typo fixes to the document. Please add
> externals links when referring to some other standard so other people
> don't need to dig related links again and again. (I have added links for
> PKCS#8 and PKCS#11.)

What is this for? This seems pretty wild :)

>>> Here are some design decisions I made and which need to be finally
>>> decided.
>>>
>>> 1] Add nss trust objects.
>>> These are not defined in the PKCS#11 standard, but Jan said they will be
>>> needed and I added them to the spec
>>
>> For the record, here are some details about NSS trust objects:
>> <http://p11-glue.freedesktop.org/doc/storing-trust-policy/storing-trust-existing.html>

Right, the NSS trust objects are definitely not an extensible scheme.
What's your use case. Don't you already have other ways in LDAP of
indicating trust in a certificate?

> This link definitely should be somewhere in design docs.
> 
>> BTW, there are some additional attributes defined in
>> /usr/include/nss3/pkcs11n.h besides these mentioned in the link above:
> And this too... Feel free to upload the file to wiki if you didn't find
> any on-line repo suitable for direct linking from design docs.
> 
>> CKA_TRUST_IPSEC_END_SYSTEM
>> CKA_TRUST_IPSEC_TUNNEL
>> CKA_TRUST_IPSEC_USER
>> CKA_TRUST_TIME_STAMPING
>> CKA_TRUST_STEP_UP_APPROVED
>>
>> Can you please add them as well?
>>
>>>
>>> 2] Certificate representation
>>> In pkcs11 there is a certificate category (user, authority, ..) and
>>> certificate value. An alternate way to represent this would be to use
>>> the schema defined in rfc4523 and map
>>> (user, value) --> (objectclass: pkiUser, usercertificate) and
>>> (authority, value) --> (objectclass: pkiCA, cAcertificate)
>>> I kept the attributes pkcs11certificateCategory and
>>> pkcs11certificateValue and let the applications decide which format will
>>> be used.
>>
>> Applications talking to PKCS#11 do not need to be concerned with this and
>> applications talking to LDAP will be only us.
> I would like to emphasis Rob's idea that this schema is IPA-specific for
> now but we should assume that other PKCS#11<->LDAP implementations can
> exist.

And also NSS specific, given the storage of NSS trust.

Cheers,

Stef




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