[Freeipa-users] PatternFly questions

[Dmitri Pal]

On 07/18/2014 08:17 AM, Innes, Duncan wrote:
>   Hi Petr,
>
> On 18/07/2014 11:24, Petr Vobornik wrote:
>> Hello Duncan,
>>
>> thank you for the input. If you or somebody else have any Web UI
> ideas/RFEs, feel free to write them down. I would like to
>> know what people don't like or would like to have.
>>
>> On 18.7.2014 10:21, Innes, Duncan wrote:
>>> Just poking around the new 4.0 demo page and very much liking what I
> see.  This will make a
>>> big difference in use on large estates.
>>>
>>> A couple PatternFly related questions though:
>>>
>>> 1. The tables don't sort by column if I click on a column header.
> Is this not available in PatternFly yet,
>>>   or have FreeIPA decided against implementing it?
>> First just a note about PatternFly. It's not really a widget library,
> it is(or should be) more of a set of patterns and
>> styles. But the referential implementation is built on Bootstrap 3, so
> it is very easy to adopt. PatternFly doesn't have an
>> official pattern for table sorting yet, but it has styles for
> DataTables (jQuery table plugin) which can do it.
>> I don't remember any decision against it -> could be implemented if
> there is enough will and user demand.
>> Sorting can be done on client side and on server side. Client side is
> limited to issue #2 - only 20 items, so it is not really
>> helpful.
>>
>> And server side (IPA API) doesn't support specifying a sort attribute
> atm.
>> You would like the server-side sorting, right?
>>
> Hadn't considered there to be an option.  When I looked at the
> PatternFly demos I hadn't thought about it, but the speed that
> FreeIPA pulls data out for rendering, I suppose it would have to be.
> Even our modest estate (at a few hundred users and hosts)
> would slow down far too much if the full dataset was sent.
>
> The other possibilities thrown up by PatternFly are also interesting;
> add/remove columns, resize columns etc.  I know some of
> these are still on the drawing board, but there are demo pages available
> already.
>
>>> 2. Browsing the screen on a large monitor still leaves the user page
> (at least) limited to around 22 rows.
>>>    This leaves the bottom third of my browser empty.  The table uses
> the full width of the browser, can it
>>>    not use the full height too?
>> I have and idea/plan to make it configurable - to specify the number
> of items and also to allow disabling of paging.
>> The more rows the slower the UI is. Also paging has its own issues
> which are not straightforward to solve:
>> -
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2012-August/msg00295.html
> True. What's the biggest time factor in loading large tables?
>
> When admining estates with tens of thousands of entries, however, much
> emphasis needs to be placed on the table filters. No
> admin in their right mind is going to be performing actions on all
> entries simultaneously.  Similar to Foreman's filters, could
> FreeIPA allow (example) in the hosts screen a filter of "hostgroup =
> groupX" to show only hosts belonging to that group?  Or filtering users
> with "manager = 'Duncan Innes'"?

Please open RFEs. This is really a valuable feedback.


>>> Still a huge improvement though - these are just niggles.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> D
>> --
>> Petr Vobornik
> Cheers
>
> D
>
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Thank you,
Dmitri Pal

Sr. Engineering Manager IdM portfolio
Red Hat, Inc.