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Re: [K12OSN] MailList Question

Well, from my perspective, being a religious reader of the email on this list, I find it extremely disconcerting to read a message with embedded includes that have never been posted on this list, in the middle of a discussion thread......and to avoid this, you have to "REPLY TO ALL" duplicating the traffic (some would call that "spam") and then have receive 2 messages for every one that you post, resulting in manual clean up, time wasting, etc.

Or you manually move the CC: to the To:, deleting the existing To: - this is getting to be more work than it is worth! (OK, not quite, but really tedious - it is moving down the priority scale due to the extra effort)

If someone thinks that this is the way it is supposed to work, then someone has a warped sense of mail list management (IMHO).


At 05:26 PM 4/15/2002, jam McQuil com wrote:

The double messages is normal.  Although I don't like it

Some people who setup mailing lists, believe that the reply-to
header should always point back to the individual, rather than the
list.  So, if you just hit reply, only the original author
will get the reply, and the list won't.

There's lots of talk about this, and I understand what they
are all saying, but for me, I prefer all of the dialog
to go back to the list, so we can have threaded archives.

To me, it doesn't make much sense to have someone ask a question,
and then the answer and further dialog becomes a private conversation.

I think we all benefit from seeing the questions AND the answers.

So, for lists that DON'T use the list address for the reply-to,
I strongly encourage you to hit the 'Reply All' button.

That's my opinion, anyway.

Jim McQuillan
jam ltsp org

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Kirk Rheinlander wrote:

> My primary machines (because I work as a corporate IT consultant) is a
> Windows laptop - hence the Eudora - but it writes standard UNIX mailboxes,
> so I go back and forth from KMail.
> Still, the duplicates messages is a symptom that has only appeared since
> the maillist moved over to RedHat. It worked fine out of Riverdale.....
> Kirk
> At 02:43 PM 4/15/2002, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> > > Kirk Rheinlander <kirk kpj2 com>
> > > Sent by: k12osn-admin redhat com
> > > 2002-04-15 08:35 AM
> > >
> > > Am I the only one that is observing this phenomena?
> > >
> > > I am reading responses to email that I have not seen (I think!) - at least
> > >
> > > there are "embedded includes" that are not from my list of emails.....
> > >
> > > A [very] little investigation.....
> > > Now that the list is at RedHat, when you REPLY - you only reply to the
> > > sender and NOT the list (or at least that is my observed situation). I
> > > have
> > > to do a "REPLY TO ALL" to get the message back to the list, and then it
> > > duplicates messages to sender AND list - unless I manually change the
> > > address field. I have noticed a marked increase in redundant messages when
> > >
> > > someone replies to me - I get 2 copies.....
> > >
> > > Any suggestions??
> > > Kirk
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:07:10AM -0600, jgonzalez proligo com wrote:
> > > Me, too !! On the old list, the reply-to was the list server. Now the
> > > reply-to is the individual. If Red Hat could change the reply-to, to be
> > > the list address, it would alleviate duplicate messages and the full
> > > discussions can be followed. If there is a private discussion, then the
> > > message can be sent only to the individual.
> >
> >[rearranged]
> >
> >[Please add you comments below the OP, and trim uncommented parts.]
> >
> >This is a mailing list FAQ, see
> >http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/faq/maillist.html#munge_reply-to
> >
> >Kirk, you could set the Mail-Followup-To header of your own mails
> >pointing to the list. That way decent MUAs that respect the
> >Mail-Followup-To will not send copies directly to you. Since some
> >people use not-so-respectful MUAs, that will not eliminate the problem
> >though, so some filtering on your part is unavoidable. Procmail is
> >probably the most commonly used tool for this (in *nix land, that is,
> >you seem to use Eudora for MS Windows ;-)
> >
> >--
> >
> >Hans Ekbrand
> >
> >
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