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Re: Forks & Credits ( Was: Re: [K12OSN] Firewall)



Thomas,

Thank you by point me this info. I´ll check it!
But that is VERY strange...isn´t?

Maybe Steve is right... there is something "wrong" with the Smoothwall guys!
Or maybe they are just MAD about IPCop guys!

I don´t care... if Smoothwall is safe and GPL version remains FREE!

Do you have any complains about Smoothwall safety or do you know another
FREE firewall to dummies (I need a very frendly web interface to admin it!)

Thanks!

Jáder


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas E. Haynes" <haynest mchsi com>
To: <k12osn redhat com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: Forks & Credits ( Was: Re: [K12OSN] Firewall)


> In one of those strange things, Smoothwall seems to have forbidden IPCop
to
> give credit.
>
> This is from one of the pages on http://ipcop.hopto.org/
>
> Do a search on Smoothwall, and this is under one of the "time to put this
on
> paper."
>
>
>       Re: Time To Put This Down On Paper (Score: 0)
>       by Anonymous on May 03, 2002 - 10:55 PM
>       Here is a couple of typical threat letters I received from Richard
> requesting that we never attribute his name anywhere on our legitimate GPL
> fork. First, he asks us to remove all references to Smoothwall and then he
> screams bloody murder when we do.
>
>       Return-Path: <richard smoothwall org>
>       Delivered-To: the-oasis-net-midnight the-oasis net
>       Received: (qmail 25328 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2001
> 13:15:23 -0000
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>       Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:25:35 +0000 (GMT)
>       From: Richard Morrell <richard smoothwall org>
>       X-X-Sender:  <richard omega arcbox com>
>       To: Phil Barnett <midnight the-oasis net>
>       Subject: Re: Can you email Phil Barnett
>       Message-ID:
> <Pine LNX 4 33 0112121323540 31328-100000 omega arcbox com>
>       MIME-Version: 1.0
>       Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN;
>         charset=US-ASCII
>       Status: R
>       X-Status: N
>
>       And whatever happened to big Phil professing he was going to do his
> own
>       new release.
>
>       Plaugerism is flattery Phil. Its flattery hope Eric can get that
ulibc
>       device stuff going quick its a shit income plan - wrong time of
market
> and
>       you dont now have access to relicenced Smoothie stuff, USB updates
or
> the
>       update manager.
>
>       In space no-one can hear you scream. If I see ANYWHERE on any site
> that
>       you are BASED on SmoothWall or even mention SmoothWall rest assured
> you'll
>       need your pension to back up your legal bill.
>
>       Richard
>
>
>       Return-Path: <richard smoothwall org>
>       Delivered-To: the-oasis-net-midnight the-oasis net
>       Received: (qmail 26794 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2001
> 13:21:34 -0000
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>       Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:31:46 +0000 (GMT)
>       From: Richard Morrell <richard smoothwall org>
>       X-X-Sender:  <richard omega arcbox com>
>       To: Phil Barnett <midnight the-oasis net>
>       Subject: Re: Can you email Phil Barnett
>       Message-ID:
> <Pine LNX 4 33 0112121331130 31328-100000 omega arcbox com>
>       MIME-Version: 1.0
>       Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN;
>         charset=US-ASCII
>       Status: R
>       X-Status: N
>
>       Please refrain from using the SmoothWall name, its not funny anymore
> Phil.
>       I think our new parents may just scare you if you dont.
>
>       -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>       Richard Morrell, Founder and Project Manager - SmoothWall GPL
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Jensen" <jmsjnsnsatx yahoo com>
> To: <k12osn redhat com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 12:40 AM
> Subject: Forks & Credits ( Was: Re: [K12OSN] Firewall)
>
>
> > The GPL specifically prohibits "stealing" code without giving proper
> > credit.  If that is the case, inform the FSF and/or GNU.  You can modify
> > GPL code to your heart's content, but you still have to leave the
credits
> > in place...
> >
> > Forks happen, but most projects that just put a new face on someone
elses
> > work while stripping out the credits don't usually do too well or last
too
> > long...
> >
> > James Jensen
> >
> >
> > --- Jáder_Marasca <jader brturbo com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jáder
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, IPCop just released 1.2pre5a.iso on 12/14
> > > >
> > > > Seems to be a reasonably active project.
> > >
> > > My mistake! I just used the www.ipcop.org site... not the sourceforge
> > > site!
> > > AND IPCop was just a plain and simple copy of Smoothwall. There is no
> new
> > > things in IPcop since that guys just use GPL to get code from
> Smoothwall.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have used/tried IPCop, Smoothwall, SME, and ClarkConnect as
> > > firewalls. I
> > > > prefer CC of the 4. You may be very happy with Smoothwall, but there
> is
> > > a
> > > > lot of bad energy out there surrounding this distribution.
> > >
> > > I´m really happy with Smoothwall... and cannot feel that bad energy
> > > around
> > > this distro... but just imagine about what energy a project can have
> when
> > > it
> > > "borrow" code from another and do not give them ANY credits!
> > >
> > > I don´t know about ClarkConnect (never heard about!) so I´ll check...
> but
> > > I
> > > really need a free firewall (just small networks: <=10 computers at
SOHO
> > > market is my target!)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Jáder
> >
> >
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