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Re: [K12OSN] can't access internet from LTSP server



Hi... just took a quick look at Tucows and Linux. Came up with
http://tkvoice.netfirms.com/index.html 

Shauna

On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 13:06, pat ring wrote:
> 
> Hi Shauna...Thanks for .02!  I live way out in the sticks.  I only have one 
> phoneline due to the high cost of rural, flat-rate calling plans so I can 
> call into the city.  As most of my business requires an internet connection, 
> I utilize an internet answering machine service called Callwave.  If I could 
> get Callwave in a linux version, I would do so.  I would do satellite 
> internet out here if they would give away the equipment.  Until satellite's 
> cost falls significantly, or they provide the equipment, I'm stuck using 
> windows, ICS, and my sole, slow-as-death phoneline.
> 
> I can get the K12LTSP server to easily dial my ISP and share that 
> connection.  Works great until I want to disconnect.  I'm not sure of an 
> eloquent way to disconnect from the clients, though.  I might be missing 
> something.  But that's another thread altogether.
> 
> Thanks again Shauna
> 
> >From: Shauna Ryall <ccschooltech shaw ca>
> >Reply-To: k12osn redhat com
> >To: K12OSN <k12osn redhat com>
> >Subject: Re: [K12OSN] can't access internet from LTSP server
> >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 12:05:23 -0700
> >
> >In regards to the Internet Sharing Connection... why not just route your
> >internet connection thru a Linux box instead? ISC isn't that secure and
> >I would hope that you have a firewall or something in place. I have a
> >test setup at home here and I have my LTSP connected to the internet and
> >get all my LTSP clients using that. I am working on getting DansGuardian
> >up and running so that we can safely surf.
> >
> >Just my .02
> >
> >Shauna
> >
> >On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 08:53, pat ring wrote:
> > > Hi Arnel...Thanks again.
> > >
> > > I have a windows network (192.168.0.x) with a win2k server (192.168.0.1)
> > > serving IP addresses and internet access to other windows 98 and windows
> > > 2000 clients (about 5 others.)  What I'm trying to do is replace the fat
> > > clients, eventually, with diskless workstations and use linux terminal
> > > services.  So the windows clients can access the internet via the win2k
> > > "server" because i am using Windows Internet Connection Sharing, which 
> >is a
> > > minor form of DHCP and NAT, I believe.  The windows clients can get an 
> >IP
> > > address from the server and they can share the internet connection, as 
> >well.
> > >   In fact, I have an additional linux PC that has regular Redhat (or
> > > Mandrake, TurboLinux, etc.,)  loaded and it can access the internet 
> >through
> > > the win2k server without problem.  It just seems to be a problem when i
> > > throw in an additional NIC and try to use the PC to bridge the two 
> >subnets.
> > >
> > > The windows clients are on a switch.  The linux clients are on a 
> >separate
> > > switch.  The K12LTSP server has a NIC plugged into each switch.  ETHO is
> > > plugged into the linux switch.  ETH1 is plugged into the windows switch. 
> >  I
> > > can ping the win2k server from the K12LTSP server, and vice versa.
> > >
> > > I changed the ETH0 on the K12LTSP server to 192.168.1.254 last night and
> > > changed the files you directed me to, as well.  No help at all.
> > >
> > > Again, I think this is more of a networking question than a K12LTSP
> > > question, so I appreciate your response and help in this forum.
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Arnel G. Pastrana" <arnelgp aiias edu>
> > > >Reply-To: k12osn redhat com
> > > >To: k12osn redhat com
> > > >Subject: Re: [K12OSN] can't access internet from LTSP server
> > > >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 18:03:55 +0800
> > > >
> > > >Pat,
> > > >
> > > >sory but i need some more info in your setup
> > > >
> > > >Is your k12tsp server connected to your hub/or switch ?  and your win2k
> > > >connected to the same hub too?
> > > >becuase i think i did that before but it wont really work? im not sure
> > > >win2k
> > > >has that capability... im sory but may be i dont know that yet...
> > > >
> > > >pat, if you have  an ordinary win98 workstation and your win2k server 
> >is
> > > >connected to internet is that win98 workstation  has access to 
> >internet?
> > > >
> > > >im not sure how your win2k give its internet connection to your ws.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >pat ring wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Arnel...Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > I modified the files at the end of the k12ltsp installation page as 
> >you
> > > > > directed in your other email.  I just changed everything that had
> > > >192.168.0
> > > > > to 192.168.1.  After reboot, I get the same error, which is "Could 
> >not
> > > >
> > > >better double chec it again find the default ip and change it to your
> > > >desired.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > connect to host www.kde.org (I was clicking on a KDE.org link.)
> > > > >
> > > > > The win2k server is dialing my ISP.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure of the proper command to set the default route.
> > > >
> > > >its under network configuration, you can do it in graphical mode then 
> >just
> > > >click make default  route
> > > >im not sure in text mode.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for both of your responses and explanations.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Arnel G. Pastrana" <arnelgp aiias edu>
> > > > > >Reply-To: k12osn redhat com
> > > > > >To: k12osn redhat com
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [K12OSN] can't access internet from LTSP server
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 12:27:13 +0800
> > > > > >
> > > > > >pat,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Let me share to you what my computerlab setup is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I have  k12ltsp server  i am dialing up to my isp.
> > > > > >i configured /etc/squid/squid.conf
> > > > > >once this server is connected to the isp the rest of my diskless
> > > > > >workstation
> > > > > >are connected to the internet
> > > > > >i make my ppp0 connection default route so that everybody connects 
> >to
> > > >that
> > > > > >server can get internet connection.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My workstation is using only 1 ethernet card. once the server is
> > > >connected
> > > > > >ws
> > > > > >are conected too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In your case since you have win2k internet server all you have to 
> >setup
> > > >is
> > > > > >in
> > > > > >your k12ltsp server put
> > > > > >eth0 to your ws and
> > > > > >eth1 internet connect it to win2k server and make this default 
> >route
> > > > > >
> > > > > >is your win2k server using diialup to your isp?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >pat ring wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a stumper that I can't seem to get answered.  I suspect 
> >this
> > > >is
> > > > > >more
> > > > > > > of a two-NIC network question than a LTSP or K12LTSP question.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have been testing terminal services.  I couldn't really get 
> >the
> > > >actual
> > > > > > > LTSP working properly (something wrong with X on the client that 
> >I
> > > > > >couldn't
> > > > > > > figure out,) so I downloaded and installed the K12LTSP version 
> >of
> > > > > >Redhat7.2.
> > > > > > >   It worked great right out of the box.  My clients log right in 
> >and
> > > >can
> > > > > > > utilize terminal services perfectly.  However, on my normal
> > > > > >installations of
> > > > > > > Redhat, I can assign a static IP to the linux PC and use my 
> >Win2K
> > > > > >gateway to
> > > > > > > surf the internet.  But when I install the LTSP'ized version 
> >with
> > > >two
> > > > > >NICs,
> > > > > > > I can ping the gateway, the gateway can ping the LTSP server, 
> >but I
> > > > > >can't
> > > > > > > surf the internet.  I think I've tried just about everything to 
> >try
> > > >and
> > > > > >use
> > > > > > > the gateway for internet access.  If I can get the LTSP server 
> >on
> > > >the
> > > > > > > internet via the gateway, then I believe the LTSP clients will 
> >fall
> > > >into
> > > > > > > place, as well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some details.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My network "server" is actually a Win2k PC with internet 
> >connection
> > > > > >sharing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >What is your internet connection of your win2k? are u using dialup 
> >or
> > > > > >connected
> > > > > >to network?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   I use VNC to virtually connect to the gateway to open and 
> >close
> > > >dial
> > > > > >in
> > > > > > > connections to the internet.  I have to use win2k because I need 
> >an
> > > > > > > "internet answering machine" to answer the phone when I am 
> >online
> > > >and
> > > > > >there
> > > > > > > is no linux support for this type of product (living in the 
> >sticks,
> > > >as I
> > > > > >do,
> > > > > > > also makes separate lines very much cost prohibitive for dial in
> > > >access
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > the internet.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The terminal services PC has two NICs.  ETH0 is attached to the
> > > >terminal
> > > > > > > services clients via a 3com switch.  ETH1 is attached via an
> > > >additional
> > > > > > > switch to my network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I might have a problem with the way the subnets are setup:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ETH0 is assigned by the K12LTSP default install to 192.168.0.254 
> >and
> > > > > >serves
> > > > > > > the LTSP clients .100 to .253.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ETH1 also gets its 192.168.0.x IP address either manually or 
> >through
> > > > > >DHCP
> > > > > > > from the network.  It doesn't matter if I manually assign the IP 
> >or
> > > >let
> > > > > >DHCP
> > > > > > > handle the IP asignment, but I have that if I let DHCP handle 
> >the
> > > > > > > assignment, I can't surf, so I just use 192.168.0.88.  This may 
> >be
> > > > > >because
> > > > > > > the DHCP services via Windows Internet COnnection Sharing aren't
> > > >really
> > > > > >full
> > > > > > > DHCP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My win2k gateway PC is 192.168.0.1 and I always enter this 
> >address
> > > >as
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > DNS server.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried to manually change the LTSP subnet on ETH0 to 
> >192.168.1.254,
> > > > > >etc.,
> > > > > > > but I'm not sure this is the problem.  Does the fact that the 
> >two
> > > > > >subnets
> > > > > > > are using the same subnet scheme create the problem?  I could 
> >see if
> > > >the
> > > > > > > clients couldn't surf, then that may be the case, but the LTSP
> > > >gateway
> > > > > >can't
> > > > > > > surf.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After about 30 installs, different configurations, etc., I'm not
> > > >sure
> > > > > >where
> > > > > > > to go further with this issue.  Can I provide some conf files 
> >that
> > > >might
> > > > > > > give you an idea of where I need to go?  Is this DNS or a route
> > > >problem?
> > > > > > > Can the same IP adress scheme be used because the subnets are on
> > > > > >different
> > > > > > > NICs, or is this the problem?  Can you push me in the right
> > > >direction of
> > > > > > > where to get some help?  I looked through the archives but I 
> >didn't
> > > >see
> > > > > > > anything similar to this problem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
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