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Re: [K12OSN] Machines

Oh, yeah...security... :-)

Any idea how long it took my kids to come up with acceptable passwords on the new system this year.

For some reason, the same passwords they used in their Windows labs last year were just unacceptable...

Did I mention my county sends all of our email passwords in cleartext on the web interface (it's a Microsoft Exchange
Server). Not such a big deal, except that the county has roughly 5000 teachers. I keep hoping some obnoxious kid
(not one of mine, thank you) hacks into the system and sends random porn or other offensive messages to
various newspapers, TV stations, and government officials using several different principals' (and maybe the
superintendent's) accounts. Maybe somebody would realize this is not a good idea.


On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 09:14 PM, Yan Seiner wrote:

On Út, 2002-11-12 at 20:22, Todd O'Bryan wrote:

I have:
(1) cost of software licenses (free is better than a Windows license
any day in my book, especially if we have to upgrade)
(2) length of ownership (terminals can last for 5 or 6 years and you
can upgrade the whole lab just by upgrading the server(s) )
(3) ease of administration (with a single file server, software can be
made locally available to all machines at one time, student
work can be monitored from a central location, kids can log on to any
account from any machine, and I can too, which makes checking
and helping easy)
(4) experience for the future (I'm going to have them survey various
local and nationally recognized colleges. I'm guessing most CS programs
use *nix of some sort as their primary platform, and having the kids
learn how to navigate its intricacies in high school is a major leg up
that most schools don't have)

Did I leave anything important out, or miss an important angle on
something I included?

Security - few viruses can penetrate a *nix system
Security - it's easy to isolate users from system commands
Security - extensive logging of user activities
Security - it's very difficult for users to install/modify/hack system
Security - it's easy to keep system up to date for security updates
(what with autorpm, up2date, and apt-get these days)
Security - users can install own software without root/admin privileges

Oh, and did I mention security? ;-)

Also, remote access to files.  I could see setting up a wan for each
user - using something like vtun - and then students could get their
files using scp over a vpn....  Heck, have the students set up the


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