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Re: [K12OSN] Manhattan

There is a newer version and Steve Narmontas, the developer of Manhattan who is
the tech guy at Western New England College, is actively working on a new
version which will have a centralized login system. 

I actively use Manhattan and do not see it as limited, but rather free of
unwanted clutter, but strong on letting users focus on content -- which is what
it's all about.

I applaud you for wanting to develop your own system in Zope, and you're not
alone, but most schools can use Manhattan very profitably now. What it lacks and
needs it can get. Not only does W.N.E. College support it but Steve's got a
hefty grant supporting the development well. A full-featured quiz environment is
planned. Getting involved in its development as users-testers is a way for
teachers to start helping a viable open source project done by and for teachers. 

I have a demo at http://members.iteachnet.org/manhat-bin/doorstep?class=tester
username: jjones
password: jjones

Best wishes,


Quoting Vern Ceder <vceder canterburyschool org>:

> We used Manhattan last year. It was successful in that it allowed some 
> of our faculty to see the potential of such a system and it was 
> relatively easy to set up. It was also relatively easy for users to 
> understand.
> On the other hand, Manhattan does have several limitations :
> 1. you can't create subfolders to manage assignments

> 2. once an assignment has been responded to, it can't be deleted by a 
> teacher

> 3. you have to log in separately to each class, which is a pain in a K12 
>   environment where students have several different classes

> 4. it validates logins against it's own databases individually, which 
> need to be managed course by course (I patched ours to validate off of 
> our NT domain controller, but it never worked seamlessly

> 5. administrator/advisor/parent access to student information on that 
> system was problematic

> 6. basically course management is VERY rudimentary

> These comments apply to the 0.92.2 version that was current up to 6 
> months ago; I don't know if there is a newer version or how many of 
> these issues it might have addressed.
> Basicallly, we gave up on Manhattan and are developing our own system 
> with Zope/CMF, which has given us much more functionality.
> Vern
> Cornerstone Christian School wrote:
> > Howdy.. anyone using Manhattan? I am just looking at it now. It is a
> > virtual classroom run off Linux and Apache, but from what I can see it
> > using IE for the teacher's manual... I would guess that you can use
> > Galeon, Mozilla or what have you instead... 
> > 
> > Anyone tried it in a school situation and liked it? 
> > 
> > http://manhattan.sourceforge.net/index.php?menu=1 
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > Shauna
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> This time for sure!
>     -Bullwinkle J. Moose
> -----------------------------
> Vern Ceder, Director of Technology
> Canterbury School, 3210 Smith Road, Ft Wayne, IN 46804
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