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Re: [K12OSN] Feasibility, conventional networking VS diskless networking



Hi Josiah,

I completely understand your comment and have had the same experience in the past. People don't like to learn new thing !!!

However it does not mean that we will surrender to difficulties.

Stephen Liu

At 11:21 AM 11/20/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I flew through the basics of this setup in a demonstration to our
Library in an hour.  It seemed like they loved it and my Boss was
glowing with pride from the quality of my presentation, but now 2 weeks
later they are asking questions like, could you price a refurbished
server to run Microsoft Office even though I specifically explained that
StarOffice or OpenOffice are replacements.  A week before those
questions I had to explain again that MS Office doesn't run on Linux.

My suggestion:
Be as clear as possible and make sure they realize what you're talking
about.  They might be awed by new things, but when it comes down to it
they miss what you are saying.  I even had them sit down and try it
after a full on-screen OpenOffice presentation, but they still don't
seem to get it.

(If you think I sound frustrated, you're right)

_JR

On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 03:34, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi all folks,
>
> I am preparing a feasibility report of a Terminal Server project (diskless
> networking) in comparison with conventional networking project served with
> M$ workstations and M$ server, highlighting the advantage of the former
> with figures in support. The same shall form the base trying to convince
> the owner of a private school to turn away from M$. Hoping that some folks
> on the list can inject some input and comment.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Stephen Liu
>
> Rmark: value to be filled in later
> =======================
>
> COMPARISON
> CONVENTIONAL NETWORKING VS DISKLESS NETWORKING
> Case Study: Investment for 10 new workstations, conventional computer VS
> diskless workstations
> Date:
>
>
> CONVENTIONAL NETWORKING
>
> 1) Server
> Spec Price
> Pentium IV 2 Ghz
> Motherboard with built-in Video card and NIC
> Memory (RAM) DDR266, 1GB
> HDD 40 GB
> CD Writer 40X 12X 40X
> FDD 3.5'
> Monitor 15'
> Keyboard
> PS/2 Mouse
> Case
>
> Licence fee Windows 2000, Advanced Server
> MS Office 2000
> Adobe PhotoShop 7
> Norton System Work 2002
> Roxio CD Easy Creator5
> Total
>
>
> 2) Conventional workstation
> Spec Price
> Pentium IV 1 Ghz
> Motherboard with built-in Video card and NIC
> Memory (RAM) DDR266, 128 MB
> HDD 30 GB
> CDRom 52X
> FDD 3.5'
> Monitor 15'
> Keyboard
> PS/2 Mouse
> Case
>
> Licence fee Windows 2000
> MS Office 2000
> Adobe PhotoShop 7
> Norton System Work 2002
> Total
>
> 3) Installation cost
> a) Server 1 unit
> b) Workstations 10 units
>
> 4) Maintenance cost
> a) Server one Engineer/month
> b) Workstations one Technician/month
>
> 5) Running cost
> Electricity per month
>
>
> DISKLESS NETWORKING
>
> 1) Server
> Spec Price
> Pentium IV 2 Ghz
> Motherboard with built-in Video card and NIC
> Memory (RAM) DDR266, 1GB
> HDD 40 GB
> CD Writer 40X 12X 40X
> FDD 3.5'
> Monitor 15'
> Keyboard
> PS/2 Mouse
> Case
>
> Licence fee Linux Nil
> OpenOffice Nil
> Gimp Nil
> Iptables Nil
> KOnCD Nil
> Total
>
> 2) Diskless workstation
> Spec Price
> Pentium P II Cel 600 Hz
> Motherboard with built-in Video card
> Memory (RAM) SD133, 64 MB
> HDD not required Nil
> FDD 3.5'
> Ethernet card (NIC) with boot ROM
> Monitor 15'
> Keyboard
> PS/2 Mouse
> Case
>
> Software installation not required
> Total
>
> 3) Installation cost
> a) Server 1 unit
> b) Workstations 10 units
>
> 4) Maintenance cost
> a) Server one Engineer/month
> b) Workstations to be covered by the Engineer
>
> 5) Running cost
> Electricity per month
> (heat generated will reduce resulting in less air
> conditioning consumpted)
>
>
>
>
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