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I used createuser_GUI  http://www.lfsp.org/users.html

I gave the users a year for the groups e.g.

username, password, My Name, 2002
username1, password, AN Other, 2001
username2, password, IMA Teacher, Staff

this gave a layout of

/home/2002/username
/home/2001/username1
/home/Staff/username2

If you want anymore info let me know.



Martin Stevens
Network Manager
Chace Community School
Website : http://www.chace.enfield.sch.uk e-mail :
stevens chace enfield sch uk
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Simpson" <simpsond leopards k12 ar us>
To: <k12osn redhat com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Pinch me...


> On the question about home directories. . .
>
> Here, we use first name, last initial, and grad year, like
> dougs06
>
> This makes this student an account and home directory that will last until
> he graduates (unless he fails, in which case you'd have to do some
> changing), whatever year that is.  This may be easier to keep up with than
> the other.
>
> Then, I use a script given graciously by members of one of these lists
> that will just delete directories with a certain year in their name.
>
> Doug
>
> On 6 Jul 2003, Shawn Powers wrote:
>
> > I remember last year, that it was difficult for me to convince the
> > school to purchase a subscription to Linux Journal... and now...
> >
> > In a recent unexpected turn of events at my school district, the school
> > board was overwhelmingly in favor of switching to open-source based
> > servers.  Amazingly enough, my presentation focused on the money saved,
> > and the businessmen and businesswomen on the board actually *understood*
> > linux.  At least enough to like the moneysaving aspect of it. :)
> >
> > I turn to this group of open-source advocates for some help, as I have
> > done in the past.  I have been given a one-shot budget for servers,
> > networking equipment, and even man-hours (mine, I'm actually getting
> > paid this summer!!!) to implement an entirely new infrastructure.  The
> > catch is that my reputation, credibility, job, and likely
> > mortgage-paying-ability are at stake. :o)
> >
> > I hope that a number of you are willing to answer some of my
> > implementation questions based on experiences (good and bad) that you've
> > had.  Keep in mind that only the servers are being changed, workstations
> > are still going to be a combination of mac, windows, and linux.
> >
> > I plan to fully document the progress of our district into the foray of
> > open-source software.  If this year proves to be much smoother than
> > last, with less money being spent -- I can see even more adoption of
> > linux, both in lab and classroom settings.  It's a unique experience I
> > have this summer to completely start from scratch with servers, and not
> > have to "wedge" linux into an already existing system.
> >
> > Ok, here's round (1) of my inquiries.  If I start to seem like I'm
> > overusing the "group" this summer, I apologize ahead of time.
> >
> > 1) Not a question, but a simple description of the hardware that will be
> > involved.  We have a handful of public IP addresses coming into the
> > district via a licensed wireless link from our ISD.  I will have a
> > computer with 2 or 3 NICs acting as the firewall/masquerading box.  This
> > will most likely run IPCOP.  Connected to that machine, in the DMZ will
> > be a XEON machine with mirrored-RAID IDE drives for web/internet
> > services.  Inside the private LAN, I will have 2 other servers.  One
> > will be a PIII with 9GB SCSI drive running squidgard/dansguardian.  The
> > other will be a PIII/PIV with RAID5 SCSI drives acting as the fileserver
> > for the district.  Ok, there's a simplistic picture of the hardware I
> > have to work with.
> >
> > 2) LDAP.  I can't think of a reason to *not* use LDAP for
> > authentication.  Everything seems to be able to authenticate via LDAP,
> > plus the addressbook side-effect you get, it would be silly for me NOT
> > to use it.  My question:  What has proven to be the best way for users
> > to change their password?  Usermin?  Does whatever method you fancy
> > allow for a hierarchy of "who can change what"  ?   It would be
> > wonderful if I could delegate a small group of users (teachers) that
> > could change passwords for students, but NOT change the passwords of the
> > principals...  Any help with the "in use" nuances of LDAP would be
> > appreciated.  This list has generated a great deal of info regarding
> > setting up a server, and I thank all involved for that. :)
> >
> > 3) home directory structure.  I know this has much to do with personal
> > preference, but I wonder if anyone has any pros/cons of different
> > structures.  My plan is to base it on graduation year, like:
> >
> > /home/2004/user1
> > /home/2004/user2
> > /home/2005/user3
> > /home/2005/user4
> > /home/staff/user5
> > /home/staff/user6
> >
> > I picture that this will give me an easy way to delete accounts at the
> > end of a year...  Just change the home directories for those students
> > that failed, and then with a simple bash script loop -- remove all the
> > users that graduated.  Does anyone have better ideas for this?
> >
> > 4) Chicken-and-Egg scenario.  I can't think of a perfect order for
> > setting up servers.  I plan to start with the LDAP server, because
> > everthing else I set up will need to have user authentication.  The LDAP
> > server will reside on the "web/internet services" machine mentioned in
> > question 1.  I should be able to set this up internally on a private IP,
> > and have the appropriate ports forwarded through the firewall to it.
> > The only problem with setting this machine up first, is that I will
> > eventually want the /home directory mounted from the fileserver via
> > NFS.  Since that server doesnt' exist yet -- I'm hoping that when the
> > time comes, I can just empty the /home folder that will exist, and mount
> > the NFS box.  If I'm offbase in that thought, please slap me
> > accordingly.
> >
> > 5) I am replacing our current proprietary email/groupware server
> > (FirstClass) with linux based alternatives.  One feature I have been
> > unable to pin down is the ability to have multiple email connections to
> > a single box.  This seems like a silly need, but I can't stand it when
> > my computer at work disconnects my mutt session by polling for new
> > mail.  I check mail from many many computers in a day, and I play
> > "broken IMAP connection" tag all day...  I know the IMAP server isn't
> > tied directly into the MTA I use -- but a combination that works well
> > for you would be greatly appreciated.   (BTW, does anyone else have
> > problems with the "server disconnected" problem with their IMAP server
> > using multiple machines, or is it just me?)
> >
> > 6) Ok, last question for today. :o)  Since I'm replacing our groupware
> > server (see #5) -- I need an alternative.  Does anyone have a web based
> > system that has worked well in their educational situation?  Mind you,
> > it needs to authenticate from the same LDAP server.  Luckily, the
> > proprietary system is so poor in design, that I don't have very big
> > shoes to fill -- and phpBB may suffice if it LDAP authenticates.  I just
> > wanted to throw the question out there to see if anyone has the "killer
> > web app" for thier teachers to collaborate with.
> >
> > THANK YOU all for even reading this far.  I'm very excited about this
> > summer, but want to make sure I make the best decisions possible.  Thank
> > you for any advice/experience you are willing to share.  Our district
> > has influence over a lot of schools (never really thought of myself as
> > influential, but alas linux geeks shine when the economy turns sour) and
> > I want to make sure we set a good example. :)
> >
> > -Shawn
> >
> > --
> > Shawn Powers
> > Inland Lakes Schools
> > Indian River, MI 49749
> > 231-238-6868
> > http://techcorner.inland.k12.mi.us
> >
> >
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> Doug Simpson
> Technology Specialist
> DeQueen Public Schools
> DeQueen, AR 71832
> simpsond leopards k12 ar us
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