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RE: [K12OSN] K12LTSP and Citrix?

I have found in the LTSP documentation a method for installing
applications locally (Chap 9).  Is this how the ICA client must be
loaded or can I install the client on the server as root and place a
link to it in the default desktop?  Does anyone have any experience with
either of these modes?  I would prefer not to have to have hard drives
in the client computers.


On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:39, Jim Anderson wrote:
> Thanks, Matt.  I'm aware of the Citrix Linux client and this would be a
> good solution for some of our later-model workstations that have decent
> speed, RAM, and newer hard drives.
> My problem is that some of the machines I'm looking at are quite old and
> well-used Pentium 133s with only 16MB RAM, others are 166s with 32MB.  I
> suppose I could install a thin version of Linux with a desktop like
> IceWM, but then I still have the problem of some pretty ratty hard
> drives that would require replacement soon.  I'm sure that the
> powers-that-be don't want to invest in maintaining this equipment, but
> if there were a "solid-state" solution in the form of bootable NICs (I
> use the Lynksys ones from disklessworkstations.com at home) that would
> enable these computers to not need further service I might be able to
> introduce Linux and OSS into the environment via K12LTSP if I can have
> them "route" a citrix session to the workstations.
> Is there a way to boot directly into a Citrix ICA client from Linux
> without a desktop?  This would be a fallback position if the opinion is
> against a Linux desktop or LTSP.  At least that's one less set of
> desktop OS licenses going to M$, but I would preferably have the school
> district and my employer see the advantages and wealth of good Open
> Source software available in the K12LTSP package.
> On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 08:16, Matt Loretitsch wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> > 
> > 	This isn't really terminal server related, but there IS a Citirx
> > client for Linux.  Instead of loading NT4 on your workstations load Linux
> > instead and run the client.
> > 
> > http://www.citrix.com/site/SS/downloads/downloads.asp?dID=2755
> > 
> > Just a thought... I haven't touched Citrix in about 4 years and even then it
> > was a Novell based network.
> > 
> > -Matt
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Anderson [mailto:netman1 optonline net] 
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:34 AM
> > To: K12OSN Mailing List
> > Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP and Citrix?
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm new to this list, but I have some K12LTSP experience as I run a K12LTSP
> > v3.0 server at home (RH8).  I work in network support for a school district
> > in a New York suburb. We are have a Citrix installation (and there won't be
> > any change to that situation). It does work well, except for the expense
> > because the clients are NT4 workstations with an ICA client. 
> > 
> > I would like to incorporate K12LTSP into the existing Citrix environment.
> > I've heard this is possible, but I don't know how it would be done.  Can
> > anyone point me to some documentation that can help me out?  So far I
> > haven't had any luck finding any, except for the mention that it's possible.
> > Is the ICA client run from the Linux server?  Also, can I set up the
> > accounts so that the user can log into the Windows domain from the client
> > login screen.  
> > 
> > We're currently using NT4, but are migrating the servers to Windows 2003
> > this summer.  The Citrix servers are currently at Windows 2000.  The
> > standard workstations will continue to be NT4, at least until next year.  We
> > have one domain and the buildings are connected by gigabit Ethernet.  There
> > are about 2000 workstations around the district.  My idea is to enable the
> > oldest workstations get a KDE desktop (editable
> > menus) and applications from the K12LTSP servers and connect to Citrix when
> > Windows-based applications are required.  The user files need to be saved on
> > Windows file servers (not the Citrix servers).  There is an existing DNS and
> > DHCP structure in place.  Email connectivity to an Exchange server from the
> > Linux clients would be a plus (but that's for another day).
> > 
> > I know I'm asking a lot the first time out, so please bear with me. If this
> > works out I hope to be able to use it as model to convince my employer to
> > deploy it in other school districts.  Thanks in advance.
> > 

Jim Anderson

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to
	-Gandalf the Grey

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