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Re: FW: [K12OSN] K12LTSP and Citrix?

Thank you!  If I can install ICA directly on the server as you did, and
have users on clients have access to Windows apps on Citrix, I think I
might be able to convince the powers that be to look at this
configuration it will force them to take a real serious look at
deploying Linux.  I want users to be able to use the OSS applications
primarily and think of opening up a Citrix session as an option.

Tonight I plan to build a LTSP server that I can take to one of of labs,
and have test users log in to Citrix using a LTSP client.  If this works
well my next step will be single-sign-on authentication to a Windows
domain and load-balancing.

I got one of our top shelf network engineers interested in using a LTSP
deployment option.  So now, with this information, and his backing and
help getting  users to log in to the Windows domain from the LTSP
clients with PAM, I feel confidant that we can offer a lower cost
solution to school networking by using OSS components.

Hopefully, as things move along I can post some progress notes.

- Jim

On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 08:30, Paul Davison wrote:
> sorry if this ends up on the list twice.
> I have been playing around with K12LTSP for a while, and might be
> introducing it for use in a non-profit organization in the fall.
> I have the linux ICA client installed on the K12LTSP server and it works
> fine from my test clients (P166MMX / 32 Mb Ram/ 4 Mb Video/ 10/100 NIC).   I
> set the ICA client to run in full screen mode, and it works great.  There
> are ofcourse some issues to deal with if you need to use local printers or
> drives, but for regular ICA use it is fine.
> I am sure if you wanted to have the default ICA client connection start when
> the users Gnome desktop starts, and ran it in full screen mode, the average
> user would never know they weren't on an NT4/Windoze machine.
> The determining factors for the usability of Citrix in conjunction with
> K12LTSP are ofcourse related to your bandwidth to the Citrix server, how
> beefy your K12LTSP server is and how many client connections you need to
> support.  In general, if your thinclient can support running the Gnome
> desktop, it should be able to run an ICA desktop with the same resolution.
> Paul Davison
> IT Manager
> PS Production Services
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:39:34 -0400
> > From: Jim Anderson <netman1 optonline net>
> > Subject: RE: [K12OSN] K12LTSP and Citrix?
> > To: K12OSN Mailing List <K12OSN redhat com>
> > Reply-To: k12osn redhat com
> >
> > Thanks, Matt.  I'm aware of the Citrix Linux client and this would be a
> > good solution for some of our later-model workstations that have decent
> > speed, RAM, and newer hard drives.
> >
> > My problem is that some of the machines I'm looking at are quite old and
> > well-used Pentium 133s with only 16MB RAM, others are 166s with 32MB.  I
> > suppose I could install a thin version of Linux with a desktop like
> > IceWM, but then I still have the problem of some pretty ratty hard
> > drives that would require replacement soon.  I'm sure that the
> > powers-that-be don't want to invest in maintaining this equipment, but
> > if there were a "solid-state" solution in the form of bootable NICs (I
> > use the Lynksys ones from disklessworkstations.com at home) that would
> > enable these computers to not need further service I might be able to
> > introduce Linux and OSS into the environment via K12LTSP if I can have
> > them "route" a citrix session to the workstations.
> >
> > Is there a way to boot directly into a Citrix ICA client from Linux
> > without a desktop?  This would be a fallback position if the opinion is
> > against a Linux desktop or LTSP.  At least that's one less set of
> > desktop OS licenses going to M$, but I would preferably have the school
> > district and my employer see the advantages and wealth of good Open
> > Source software available in the K12LTSP package.
Jim Anderson

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to
	-Gandalf the Grey

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