[K12OSN] LTSP vs PC

Doug Simpson simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us
Fri Apr 2 13:47:55 UTC 2004


Am I just missing something here?

I see many posts about mixing Windows and linux (*nix) (oss servers) and 
keeping the same home directories and etc.

unless I am just missing something, what is so hard?

I have windows users using linux (samba) servers and they use the same 
home directories on the server they could use under linux on the same 
servers.  I use either, and have no problems finding my data no matter 
which workstation OS is being used (a terminal with K12LTSP, W98, WXP or 
W2K).

Please enlighten me about all the fuss about home directories. . .

Doug


On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Shawn Iverson wrote:

> I am responding to this thread because I am deeply concerned that the school
> system at which I work will be throwing away the ability to pursue
> opensource soon.  The school system wants to upgrade this network of 1200+
> computers spanning 7 elementary schools, 1 middle school, and 1 high school
> to Windows Server 2003 from NT 4. The network is almost entirely M$ (no
> surprise huh?).  
> 
> I recommended turning over to Samba instead of a Windows upgrade, but that
> idea didn't sink in.  Furthermore, I and an intern tried making an
> opensource email server that could replace Exchange, but that didn't work
> because the new server lacked such features as automatic name/address
> completion (when a user's name is partially typed into the "To:" box in
> Outlook).  Since I am unfamiliar with databases such as LDAP, I could not
> provide an alternative to the Windows Global Directory either.
> 
> I noticed a while back that M$ released their Windows Services for Unix for
> free (?).  The details of this service were unbelievable and seemed that it
> would fulfill everything I need to integrate Linux into the existing
> environment.  Upon closer inspection I found that M$ requires a CAL for any
> machine, Windows or not, utilizing a Windows server service.  Furthermore,
> my boss is requiring that in order for Linux to be used, the user
> name/password must the same as in the Windows environment, and it must
> provide access to the same home directories.  I have successfully done this
> using pam_winbind and pam_mount, but apparently going this route would
> require CALs too and may not even work at all with AD.  It doesn't look like
> the domain controllers and the file servers will be replaced with opensource
> alternatives anytime soon.
> 
> On Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:17 AM Jim Hays wrote:
> > I started to answer this last night but didn't send it.  My answer was
> > similar to George's.  Here is what I run into:
> > 
> > "This is not what the kids will see in college or the work place."
> > "My software (Accelerated Reader, Inspiration, etc) won't run on this."
> 
> I am having problems involving just these two.  The school system here will
> not let its grip loose on these applications.  Furthermore, I have been
> unsuccessful in getting these apps to run under wine, especially from a
> Windows network server, as it is set up here.  Another one is KidPix.  Tux
> Paint would have worked just fine, but no, that wouldn't do because
> everything was organized differently.
> 
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-- 
Doug Simpson
Technology Specialist
DeQueen Public Schools
DeQueen, AR 71832
simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us
XP is the biggest thorn in my side since Saddam Hussein!
Tux for President!





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