[K12OSN] Re:View Multiple share points with Netatalk and vsFTP

Jim Kronebusch jim at winonacotter.org
Thu Apr 8 18:10:29 UTC 2004

Thanks for the extra info on AFP version, I didn't know that.  We have
OSX, OS9, Windows 9x-XP, and Linux clients here.  So I will be forced to
run Netatalk and Samba.  We also need external access from home for
teachers and students to the main files server for all platforms so I
will also be forced to run FTP (Users could connect via AFP over TCP but
that still leaves trouble for Windows users).  

I have set up netatalk, samba and FTP before.  My problem is mostly with
if I set up share points in netatalk, how to I mirror the same share
points to samba and even FTP if possible?  I am thinking that with FTP I
may be forced to just settle with them logging into their home folder
and calling it good.  But I would like local users to see the same
directory structure from and client whether using SMB or AFP.  I have
thought of just dumping users into a /home and letting them traverse to
whichever folder they need since they won't have permissions to access
folders they aren't supposed to, but this is a cumbersome method and I
like to not have users even see folders they don't have access to.  

On my Windows server with Serv-U as the server I sould set up aliases
for each user in FTP for any other directories they had access to, can
vsFTP do the same?

Ultimately I would like to log in via AFP, SMB, or FTP directly into my
/home/user folder by default, then if possible have aliases within that
folder to take me directly to any other folder I have priveleges to say
/home/publicdrop or /home/teachers/teachername/homeworkdrop.

If the previous isn't possible maybe have it where if I log in via AFP I
see 3 mount points to choose from, via SMB and FTP three folders to
choose from.  I am sure I can get these results via AFP but am lost on
how to do it with SMB and FTP.

I also could just give users multiple usernames and passwords for
different types of access but they have enough trouble remembering one

Anyway the info you have offered helps, Thanks

In the end I am sure I will just realize I am asking for too much :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On
Behalf Of David Tisdell
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:13 PM
To: k12osn at redhat.com
Subject: [K12OSN] Re:View Multiple share points with Netatalk and vsFTP

Netatalk does a pretty good job of behaving as an
AppleShare server. You can setup multiple shares. If
you are going to run netatalk, you should go to
netatalk.sourceforge.net. There is a mailing list there you can join
which would be beneficial. One thing to be aware of is that netatalk is
still based on AFP 2.0 and OS X uses AFP 3.0. Apple did not write good
backward compatability into OS X. I think their intent was to force
people to upgrade their AppleShareIP server to OS X. You will run into
issues with netatalk and OS X clients. Samba is a better solution if you
have all OS X clients. If you are mixed with OS X and 9 or earlier, I
would use netatalk and train you OS X users to deal with the
idiosyncracies they will run into. If you want more details, I can give
them to you but I need to go now. Dave
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 13:03:27 -0500
From: "Jim Kronebusch" <jim at winonacotter.org>
Subject: [K12OSN] View Multiple share points with
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I will be migrating our main fileserver to linux this
summer.  Right 
if a user logs in via appletalk they get to choose
from multiple share
points.  Is this possible with netatalk?  Or is it
possible to have
aliases within the users home directory to take them
to other home
directories as long as they have proper permissions to
the other 
via group privileges?  Can this same setup also be
accessed via FTP as
Here is a scenario if it helps:
User X logs in and is taken to their /home/usrXfolder/
Now user X wants to drop files into a teacher Y's drop
folder located 
Can this user either:
A. See 2 share points on login /usrXfolder/ and
/1sthourdrop/ or
B. Dump directly into their /usrXfolder/ and see an
alias to
I currently have vsFTP set with chroot_local_user=yes
option to lock
into the users /home/user directory to keep them from wandering.
Whatever solution I go with I want to be sure that if a user logs in
from home via FTP on a Windows based system they can traverse
directories in the same fashion.
Also the majority of our computers here are Macintosh,
and we are 
more Windows machines, when we get to adding Linux
machines they will 
thin clients.  So I guess Samba will need to reflect
this configuration
as well.
I hope this makes some sort of sense to everyone.  And
me out if there is a better way to do this.  I want to
avoid giving
users more than one username and password.  Also
depending on what
activities or courses a student is involved in, this
won't be limited 
two folders, there may be half a dozen in some cases.

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