[K12OSN] Re:View Multiple share points with Netatalk and vsFTP

Jim Hays haysja at sages.us
Thu Apr 8 18:35:30 UTC 2004

Jim Kronebusch wrote:

>Thanks for the extra info on AFP version, I didn't know that.  We have
>OSX, OS9, Windows 9x-XP, and Linux clients here.  So I will be forced to
>run Netatalk and Samba.  We also need external access from home for
>teachers and students to the main files server for all platforms so I
>will also be forced to run FTP (Users could connect via AFP over TCP but
>that still leaves trouble for Windows users).  
>I have set up netatalk, samba and FTP before.  My problem is mostly with
>if I set up share points in netatalk, how to I mirror the same share
>points to samba and even FTP if possible?  I am thinking that with FTP I
>may be forced to just settle with them logging into their home folder
>and calling it good.  But I would like local users to see the same
>directory structure from and client whether using SMB or AFP.  I have
>thought of just dumping users into a /home and letting them traverse to
>whichever folder they need since they won't have permissions to access
>folders they aren't supposed to, but this is a cumbersome method and I
>like to not have users even see folders they don't have access to.  
>On my Windows server with Serv-U as the server I sould set up aliases
>for each user in FTP for any other directories they had access to, can
>vsFTP do the same?
>Ultimately I would like to log in via AFP, SMB, or FTP directly into my
>/home/user folder by default, then if possible have aliases within that
>folder to take me directly to any other folder I have priveleges to say
>/home/publicdrop or /home/teachers/teachername/homeworkdrop.
>If the previous isn't possible maybe have it where if I log in via AFP I
>see 3 mount points to choose from, via SMB and FTP three folders to
>choose from.  I am sure I can get these results via AFP but am lost on
>how to do it with SMB and FTP.
>I also could just give users multiple usernames and passwords for
>different types of access but they have enough trouble remembering one
>Anyway the info you have offered helps, Thanks
>In the end I am sure I will just realize I am asking for too much :-)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On
>Behalf Of David Tisdell
>Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:13 PM
>To: k12osn at redhat.com
>Subject: [K12OSN] Re:View Multiple share points with Netatalk and vsFTP
>Netatalk does a pretty good job of behaving as an
>AppleShare server. You can setup multiple shares. If
>you are going to run netatalk, you should go to
>netatalk.sourceforge.net. There is a mailing list there you can join
>which would be beneficial. One thing to be aware of is that netatalk is
>still based on AFP 2.0 and OS X uses AFP 3.0. Apple did not write good
>backward compatability into OS X. I think their intent was to force
>people to upgrade their AppleShareIP server to OS X. You will run into
>issues with netatalk and OS X clients. Samba is a better solution if you
>have all OS X clients. If you are mixed with OS X and 9 or earlier, I
>would use netatalk and train you OS X users to deal with the
>idiosyncracies they will run into. If you want more details, I can give
>them to you but I need to go now. Dave
>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 13:03:27 -0500
>From: "Jim Kronebusch" <jim at winonacotter.org>
>Subject: [K12OSN] View Multiple share points with
>Netatalk and vsFTP
>To: <k12osn at redhat.com>
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>I will be migrating our main fileserver to linux this
>summer.  Right 
>if a user logs in via appletalk they get to choose
>from multiple share
>points.  Is this possible with netatalk?  Or is it
>possible to have
>aliases within the users home directory to take them
>to other home
>directories as long as they have proper permissions to
>the other 
>via group privileges?  Can this same setup also be
>accessed via FTP as
>Here is a scenario if it helps:
>User X logs in and is taken to their /home/usrXfolder/
>Now user X wants to drop files into a teacher Y's drop
>folder located 
>Can this user either:
>A. See 2 share points on login /usrXfolder/ and
>/1sthourdrop/ or
>B. Dump directly into their /usrXfolder/ and see an
>alias to
>I currently have vsFTP set with chroot_local_user=yes
>option to lock
>into the users /home/user directory to keep them from wandering.
>Whatever solution I go with I want to be sure that if a user logs in
>from home via FTP on a Windows based system they can traverse
>directories in the same fashion.
>Also the majority of our computers here are Macintosh,
>and we are 
>more Windows machines, when we get to adding Linux
>machines they will 
>thin clients.  So I guess Samba will need to reflect
>this configuration
>as well.
>I hope this makes some sort of sense to everyone.  And
>me out if there is a better way to do this.  I want to
>avoid giving
>users more than one username and password.  Also
>depending on what
>activities or courses a student is involved in, this
>won't be limited 
>two folders, there may be half a dozen in some cases.
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