[K12OSN] Re: K12OSN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 36

[David Tisdell]

Jim,
One other issue with OS X, OS 9, Samba and netatalk.
When a connection is made to the server with netatalk,
the resource fork information is stored in a hidden
directory. (If I remember correctly it is .appledouble
but I am not positive of that. I would need to look it
up.) This is created by the netatalk daemon. If an OS
X client establishes a connection to the server via
samba, then the client is not aware of the resource
fork information and the file is unusable. A file
saved to the server from an OS X client with a samba
connection will store the resource fork information
difeerently. The client creates a hidden file (I
forget what it is called)on the server with the
resource fork info. Netatalk is unaware of these
hidden files. Files saved from an OS X client to the
server via samba are unusable from a client connected
via netatalk. There is a project called baltra to map
the 2 file types so that a client can use either type
of connection and have the files be usable but I
haven't tried it. When I first heard about it, Samba 3
was required and it was a late alpha at that point.
If you have your OS X clients use netatalk 1.x, they
may need to save to the desktop and then copy to the
server by hand.
netatalk 2.0 is in its first beta which I belive uses
afp 3.0. You could try that for maximum compatability
but it is only the first beta.
Dave
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From: "Jim Kronebusch" <jim at winonacotter.org>
Subject: RE: [K12OSN] Re:View Multiple share points
with Netatalk and
	vsFTP
To: "'Support list for opensource software in
schools.'"
	<k12osn at redhat.com>
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Dave,
Thanks for the extra info on AFP version, I didn't
know that.  We have
OSX, OS9, Windows 9x-XP, and Linux clients here.  So I
will be forced 
to
run Netatalk and Samba.  We also need external access
from home for
teachers and students to the main files server for all
platforms so I
will also be forced to run FTP (Users could connect
via AFP over TCP 
but
that still leaves trouble for Windows users).  

I have set up netatalk, samba and FTP before.  My
problem is mostly 
with
if I set up share points in netatalk, how to I mirror
the same share
points to samba and even FTP if possible?  I am
thinking that with FTP 
I
may be forced to just settle with them logging into
their home folder
and calling it good.  But I would like local users to
see the same
directory structure from and client whether using SMB
or AFP.  I have
thought of just dumping users into a /home and letting
them traverse to
whichever folder they need since they won't have
permissions to access
folders they aren't supposed to, but this is a
cumbersome method and I
like to not have users even see folders they don't
have access to.  

On my Windows server with Serv-U as the server I sould
set up aliases
for each user in FTP for any other directories they
had access to, can
vsFTP do the same?

Ultimately I would like to log in via AFP, SMB, or FTP
directly into my
/home/user folder by default, then if possible have
aliases within that
folder to take me directly to any other folder I have
priveleges to say
/home/publicdrop or
/home/teachers/teachername/homeworkdrop.

If the previous isn't possible maybe have it where if
I log in via AFP 
I
see 3 mount points to choose from, via SMB and FTP
three folders to
choose from.  I am sure I can get these results via
AFP but am lost on
how to do it with SMB and FTP.

I also could just give users multiple usernames and
passwords for
different types of access but they have enough trouble
remembering one
:-)

Anyway the info you have offered helps, Thanks

In the end I am sure I will just realize I am asking
for too much :-)



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