[K12OSN] Re: K12OSN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 36

David Tisdell penguintiz at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 9 12:33:46 UTC 2004

One other issue with OS X, OS 9, Samba and netatalk.
When a connection is made to the server with netatalk,
the resource fork information is stored in a hidden
directory. (If I remember correctly it is .appledouble
but I am not positive of that. I would need to look it
up.) This is created by the netatalk daemon. If an OS
X client establishes a connection to the server via
samba, then the client is not aware of the resource
fork information and the file is unusable. A file
saved to the server from an OS X client with a samba
connection will store the resource fork information
difeerently. The client creates a hidden file (I
forget what it is called)on the server with the
resource fork info. Netatalk is unaware of these
hidden files. Files saved from an OS X client to the
server via samba are unusable from a client connected
via netatalk. There is a project called baltra to map
the 2 file types so that a client can use either type
of connection and have the files be usable but I
haven't tried it. When I first heard about it, Samba 3
was required and it was a late alpha at that point.
If you have your OS X clients use netatalk 1.x, they
may need to save to the desktop and then copy to the
server by hand.
netatalk 2.0 is in its first beta which I belive uses
afp 3.0. You could try that for maximum compatability
but it is only the first beta.
From: "Jim Kronebusch" <jim at winonacotter.org>
Subject: RE: [K12OSN] Re:View Multiple share points
with Netatalk and
To: "'Support list for opensource software in
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Thanks for the extra info on AFP version, I didn't
know that.  We have
OSX, OS9, Windows 9x-XP, and Linux clients here.  So I
will be forced 
run Netatalk and Samba.  We also need external access
from home for
teachers and students to the main files server for all
platforms so I
will also be forced to run FTP (Users could connect
via AFP over TCP 
that still leaves trouble for Windows users).  

I have set up netatalk, samba and FTP before.  My
problem is mostly 
if I set up share points in netatalk, how to I mirror
the same share
points to samba and even FTP if possible?  I am
thinking that with FTP 
may be forced to just settle with them logging into
their home folder
and calling it good.  But I would like local users to
see the same
directory structure from and client whether using SMB
or AFP.  I have
thought of just dumping users into a /home and letting
them traverse to
whichever folder they need since they won't have
permissions to access
folders they aren't supposed to, but this is a
cumbersome method and I
like to not have users even see folders they don't
have access to.  

On my Windows server with Serv-U as the server I sould
set up aliases
for each user in FTP for any other directories they
had access to, can
vsFTP do the same?

Ultimately I would like to log in via AFP, SMB, or FTP
directly into my
/home/user folder by default, then if possible have
aliases within that
folder to take me directly to any other folder I have
priveleges to say
/home/publicdrop or

If the previous isn't possible maybe have it where if
I log in via AFP 
see 3 mount points to choose from, via SMB and FTP
three folders to
choose from.  I am sure I can get these results via
AFP but am lost on
how to do it with SMB and FTP.

I also could just give users multiple usernames and
passwords for
different types of access but they have enough trouble
remembering one

Anyway the info you have offered helps, Thanks

In the end I am sure I will just realize I am asking
for too much :-)

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