[K12OSN] universal boot floppy
Brian Chase
networkr0 at cfl.rr.com
Fri Apr 23 21:11:45 UTC 2004
http://www.rom-o-matic.net/5.2.4/
julio ramirez wrote:
> hi
> does anybody knows how or where to get a universal boot floppy ) to
> start my ltsp computer
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> thank you
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> 1. Installing K12LTSP Problems Solved (Tanieth Bowers)
> 2. Re: About printing (Julius Szelagiewicz)
> 3. Life Expectancy of Riverdale Labs (Shawn Powers)
> 4. Getting involved with K12 Documentation (Calvin Park, ADCS)
> 5. easy VPN? (Julius Szelagiewicz)
> 6. Re: easy VPN? (Brian Chase)
> 7. Re: easy VPN? (Les Mikesell)
> 8. CDROM from server (Daniel Loomis)
> 9. Re: easy VP! N? (Julius Szelagiewicz)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tanieth Bowers
> Subject: [K12OSN] Installing K12LTSP Problems Solved
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
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> For those out there that have had as much trouble
> installing K12LTSP as i'v had over the past week -
> getting the error. "Error transferring install image
> to hard drive - probably out of disk
> space" when installing. A simple "linux allowcddma" at
> boot prompt solved this. Also I found that when it
> asked for disk 2 and 3 I was better off inserting the
> disk - waiting for about ten seconds and then hitting
> the OK button. Otherwise the machine would just hang.
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> Thanx Les.
> This link proved interesting too
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/long_list.cgi?buglist=109462
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 13:11:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Julius Szelagiewicz
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] About printing
> To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
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> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Les Mikesell wrote:
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> > On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 10:00, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:
> > > > gv postscript_file ...
> > > >
> > > you really think it is a good idea to to use gv to look for blank
> > > pages (by visually scanning output?) and then convert! ing the
> ps to
> > > something more editable, removing the blank pages, converting
> again for
> > > print, resubmitting the jobs ..... goodness gracious, what a
> perfect setup
> > > for a bored masochist. the woman wants to *look* at files.
> maybe she
> > > should be replaced by a small script?
> > > julius
> > >
> > > p.s. convering to / from ps tends to hit the processor hard.
> >
> > Whether something is a good idea or not is a very different
> issue than
> > whether it is technically possible or even difficult. Postscript
> > is only marginally different from pdf format so viewing one makes
> > as much sense as the other. You are right, of course, about
> replacing
> > all possible repetitive jobs with a script. I remember doing
> something
> > like that back in the day when blank pages were just form-feed
> > characters or some number of linefeeds and a lot of software sent an
> > extra blank page at th! e end of each job.
> >
> Les,
> you make perfect sense when you make distinction between feasible
> and advisable. It is possible that i suffer form the "frustrated
> teacher
> syndrome" and give answers that go beyond the direct scope of the
> questions, but this one just seemed to cry for help.
> by the way, pdf is just as bad if not worth than ps, so is rtf.
> the reason: most printing people do deals with text, so the pretty
> page
> description stuff is just hindrance, and yes, i've been doing a lot of
> post-processing of print jobs - it is easier for me, since i have
> lots of
> control over format. julius
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:23:17 -0400
> From: Shawn Powers
> Subject: [K12OSN] Life Expectancy of Riverdale Labs
> To: "k12osn at redhat.com"
> Message-ID: <40895F15.7020606 at inlandlakes.org>
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> Paul Nelson, or anyone that is involved at Riverdale,
>
> I read that the Riverdale HS lab went online September of 2002. (That
> particular school has a great writeup on k12ltsp.org on
> how/when/why/etc) I'm curious how the hardware has been faring now
> that
> almost 2 school years have gone by...
>
> I guess I ask, because I'm not sure how to properly figure TCO with a
> k12ltsp lab... Theoretically, the thin clients will last forever. I
> have circa 1993 machines running just fine as thin clients, so the
> "forever" at least has a decade of age to back it.
>
> How has the school transitioned through the versions of K12LTSP? I
> don't remember what version was out in Sept 2002, but I'm sure it
> was no
> newer than version 2. Are you running version 4.0.1 on the same
> hardware? How does it compare performance-wise?
>
> Have you noticed less "maintenance" required for thin clients than
> regular computers? (no hard drives! to fail, although that's not
> terribly common even in a "regular" lab)
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> Do you have any comparative energy savings from using the thin
> clients
> and flat screens? I know they use less energy, but also you probably
> don't need to air-condition the labs either... I know that figure
> isn't
> specific to just you, and I could probably figure out the costs
> that it
> would save me -- but I'm trying to fill in any questions when I
> use you
> as a big example case. :)
>
> Thanks a million,
> -Shawn
>
>
> --
> Shawn Powers
> Technology Director
> Inland Lakes Schools
> PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174
> FAX: 509-356-7024
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> http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:22:22 -0400
> From: "Calvin Park, ADCS"
> Subject: [K12OSN] Getting involved with K12 Documentation
> To: Eric Harrison
> Cc: "Support! list for opensource software in schools."
> , K12 Devel
> Message-ID: <1082748142.2149.18.camel at localhost>
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> Thanks for the info. Is there anyway for me to get more involved
> in the
> k12 documentation? Not sure if you all need anymore help. But I'd be
> more than willing to help out if you all wanted/needed it. (NOTE:m I
> changed the subject since we're no longer talking about CD-ROM's, the
> original discussion is included below)
>
> -Calvin
>
> On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 15:58, Eric Harrison wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 10:58, Calvin Park, ADCS wrote:
> > > I agree that CDROM access in the terminals would be a big
> improvement.
> > > That is one point that our school here has been a little
> disappointed
> > > about. Currently it's not supported, short of rebuilding the
> kernel (at
> > > least to my knowledge).
> > >
> ! > > So, can any of the devel guys help us with an answer to
> this? Is CDROM
> > > support planned in the next release?
> >
> > Yes, improvements in removable media are expected for LTSP 4.1.
> I'm not
> > sure of the current status, I'll be looking at this next week.
> >
> > > Also, one last question that's a little unrelated. Is there a
> k12LTSP
> > > documentation project anywhere?
> >
> >
> > http://k12ltsp.org
> > http://k12ltsp.org/phpwiki/
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > > Thanks all!
> > > -Calvin
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 07:36, Eduardo Robles Elvira wrote:
> > > > El Jueves, 22 de Abril de 2004 08:29, George Bredberg escribió:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have two ltsp-servers, 4.01 serving 9 and 12 terminals
> each in our
> > > > > school. Now there are a lot of people asking for access to
> the CD:s in
> >! > > > the terminals. I have tried to search for how to do this
> but I have
> > > > > only found one note for an older version accessing CD:s
> via the ftp
> > > > > protocoll.. Is there some straightforward (for the
> students at least..)
> > > > > way to do this? I would wery much apreciate if someone
> could point me
> > > > > in the right direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards /George
> > > >
> > > > Hi George!
> > > >
> > > > I've dealing with this although I haven't finnished yet as
> my project of using K12LTSP in the school have been stopped.
> Anyway I only need to finninish some things in order to get all
> done, and then I'll create a howto:
> > > >
> > > > I've already have success accessing to CD in the terminals.
> You only need to:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Rebuild the terminal's kernel with supermount module
> support> > > 2. Install lufs in the terminal's root (/opt/ltsp/i386)
> > > > 3. using a combination of lufsmount and supermount, you sucess!
> > > >
> > > > I think it's not needed, but I used SSH in order to the be
> secure :). All of this thanks to Andres Toomsalu's LDA howto
> (http://smtp.active.ee/download/ltsp4_lda_v0.2.tar.gz).
> > > >
> > > > This way, you can access even to usb devices, and to local
> partitions, but I still couldn't read audio cds. That's anoying,
> thus, I'm still trying to use ENBD (Enhanced NBD) to do that. I
> feel that I have already installed, and my problems are about the
> enbd command's options..
> > > >
> > > > If you need help with anythink, ask me and I'll try to do it
> at my best =).
> > > >
> > > > I think in the next K12LTSP version (4.1 anyone?) could be
> included: ssh + lda + supermount. This would be a real improvement
> and it would save many time to us. ! CDroms in the terminals is a
> fact. Let's use it. And we could even try to autdetect every
> device whn it's added, then we supermount it. What do you think
> K12LTSP developers ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Edulix.
> > > >
> > > >
> --
> Calvin Park
> Associate Director of Computer Services
> Davis College: A Practical school of Bible and Ministry
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:40:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Julius Szelagiewicz
> Subject: [K12OSN] easy VPN?
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
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> Dear Folks,
> I need to set up a VPN between 2 sites connected to the Internet.
> I need something that is easy to install and configure and that is
> robust
> enough to do windoze networking - need to mount a remote directory
> on a
> pc. If you have any experience, ideas, please share. thanks julius
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:48:54 -0400
> From: Brian Chase
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] easy VPN?
> To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
>
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> Well, i suppose you could use a PC and IPCop or Smoothwall with two
> NIC's, but a much smaller footprint and lower power consumption
> option
> might be wiser, just make sure you buy two of the same type
> VPN-endpoint
> routers for each end to ensure interoperability.
>
> I use the 2XW, but there's other decent one's out there:
>
>
> http://www.us.zyxel.com/products/categoryCompare.php?indexFlagvalue=1021873683
>
> Julius Szela! giewicz wrote:
>
> >Dear Folks,
> > I need to set up a VPN between 2 sites connected to the Internet.
> >I need something that is easy to install and configure and that
> is robust
> >enough to do windoze networking - need to mount a remote
> directory on a
> >pc. If you have any experience, ideas, please share. thanks julius
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 15:02:15 -0500
> From: Les Mikesell
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] easy VPN?
> To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
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> Message-ID: <1082750535.10986.3.camel at moola.futuresource.com>
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> On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 14:40, Juli! us Szelagiewicz wrote:
> > Dear Folks,
> > I need to set up a VPN between 2 sites connected to the Internet.
> > I need something that is easy to install and configure and that
> is robust
> > enough to do windoze networking - need to mount a remote
> directory on a
> > pc. If you have any experience, ideas, please share. thanks julius
>
> Redhat/fedora/k12ltsp has CIPE built in so you can configure it
> with the redhat-configure-network GUI. It runs over UDP and
> doesn't object to going through NAT on the way. It probably
> isn't the most secure choice but unless you are a bank it
> should be good enough. If you aren't starting with a machine
> with CIPE included, I'd look at openvpn first.
>
> ---
> Les Mikesell
> les at futuresource.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:10:37 -0500
> From: Daniel Loomis
> Subject: [K12OSN] CDROM from server
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1082754637.3364.9.camel at harpo.curmudgeon.not>
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> A fairly simple way to implement a cdrom server can be found in the
> archives at Linuxjournal (It is based on the cdserver howto at
> tldp.org).
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5639
>
> CDROMs are copied into a directory as iso files and mounted using
> the -o
> loop. The article also explains how to set up the volumes using
> automount. A second directory is needed to allow browsing to work with
> automount.
>
> I followed the procedure fairly closely and it works well for us,
> including the automount.
>
> We use it to run Windows programs in our Sunday School lab which use
> WindowsXP computers. They access the LTSP server via ethernet. Thin
> client terminals can access them as well, but the windows software
> is a
> problem (Wine works on some, but not all).
>
> Dan Loomis
> FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
> El Dor! ado, AR
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:26:00 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Julius Szelagiewicz
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] easy VPN?
> To: "Support list for opensource software in schools."
>
> Message-ID:
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> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 14:40, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:
> > > Dear Folks,
> > > I need to set up a VPN between 2 sites connected to the Internet.
> > > I need something that is easy to install and configure and
> that is robust
> > > enough to do windoze networking - need to mount a remote
> directory on a
> > > pc. If you have any experience, ideas, please share. thanks julius
> >
> > Redhat/fedora/k12ltsp has CIPE built in so you can configure it
> > with the redhat-configure-network GUI. It runs over UDP and
> > doesn't object to going through NAT on the way. It probably
> > isn't the most secure choice but unless you are a bank it
> > should be good enough. If you aren't starting with a machine
> > with CIPE included, I'd look at openvpn first.
> >
> Les,
> I can actually use light-weight k12 server for remote end and a
> spare k12 server for hq end - cipe is obviously included. my
> problem with
> cipe is the documentation. it is rather verbose in obvious places
> and very
> sparse in non-obvious. The description of server end seems to
> translate
> into "and the magic happens here". the docs for openvpn are a bit
> scary.
> perhaps i just need to plug away at cipe. thanks, julius
>
>
>
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