[K12OSN] G3's up and running!

Thu Mar 25 18:21:50 UTC 2004

Eric,
Rpm -q esound returned okay on the server.

Part of the problem with the client was /bin/esd didn't seem to be
there.  I changed the inittab to /usr/bin/esd and it said successfully
on boot that it was listening on port 16001.  The ps auxw | grep esd on
the client after the Ctrl-Alt-F1 did return a similar line as what you
indicated, weird thing is that the first three times I issue the command
I get two lines after that only one.  The extra line lists "grep esd" in
place of "/usr/bin/esd -nobeeps -tcp -port 16001".  I however am still
short on sound when fully booted.  But a good sign is that when I
Ctrl-Alt-F1 to the command line I receive error beeps on the client if I
punch something it wrong.  This is progress, I never heard these beeps
before.

I am now going to try the :once: option instead of :respawn:.  Maybe
that will fix something.  I am also assuming there is no reason to order
in the inittab file and am just throwing the two new commands at the end
of the file, first esd, then x.

My sound on the Term150's just goes to a steady high pitch beeping, but
I have no problem with that at this point.  I would be very happy with a
dedicated Mac lab.

On a side note, Shawn, the Ctrl-Alt-F1 appears to let you out of the X
query and issue a reboot command without crashing the local YDL.

-----Original Message-----
From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Harrison
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 11:30 AM
To: k12osn at redhat.com
Subject: RE: [K12OSN] G3's up and running!

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Jim Kronebusch wrote:

>Eric, do I have to install esd on the server first or is it already 
>there?

You should not need to install esd on the server. You can verify that
you have it installed with:

	rpm -q esound

>I am running 3.1.2 on the test box.  Also the default lts.conf was set 
>to
>SOUND_DAEMON      = nasd
>Without the quotes.  Does 3.1.2 need the quotes once I change the line 
>to = esd ?

It is a good habit to put it in quotes, but not strictly needed for a
single parameter. (something like VARIABLE = "param1 param2" must be
quoted)

With K12LTSP 3.1.2, the SOUND_DAEMON variable must be global. Your x86
clients should work again if you reboot them. 

K12LTSP 4.0 added support for having SOUND_DAEMON on a per-client basis.

>Also, my local YDL on the macs does already have sound, but should I 
>run some sort of test to be sure it is running esd?

I believe you can still hit "Ctrl-Alt-F1" to get to a command line login
prompt. If you can, login and run:

	ps auxw | grep esd

you should see somthing like:  (made up, it won't look exactly the same)

	root    883  0.0  0.0  4796  516 pts/4    R    09:27   0:00
/bin/esd -nobeeps -tcp -port 16001

>I already tried to add the new line in the inittab and changed the 
>lts.conf line on the server.  Didn't work yet, hence the prior 
>questions.  I did however manage to kill sound for my PC terminals.  I 
>changed back to nasd on the lts.conf and my PC terminal sound came 
>back. My current test PC terminals I am checking are the Term150's.
>
>Thanks

Worse case, set SOUND_DAEMON back to nasd and reboot the Term150's....

-Eric

>-----Original Message-----
>From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On 
>Behalf Of Eric Harrison
>Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:40 PM
>To: A technical support and discussion community for users of the K12OS

>Linux distribution.
>Subject: RE: [K12OSN] G3's up and running!
>
>
>On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Jim Kronebusch wrote:
>
>>The only thing I have sound working on is the Term150 diskless
>>workstation.  I haven't even had the time to try on anything else.  To

>>me sound isn't very important, but teachers want it available for the 
>>younger crowd to keep them interested (The sound just drives me insane

>>in a lab).  If you hear of a way to get sound please let me know.  But

>>thanks for the work on the inittab mods for the -query option.
>
>Here's a theory on how to get sound to work in the environment, 
>completely untested ;-)
>
>
>First, you'll want to try esd rather than nasd. Nasd is a pain to
>compile and the default K12LTSP one won't work on PPC. Esd will be
>included in YDL, so that is a better bet.
>
>Make sure sound is working before making the "-query" change to 
>inittab.
>
>Once sound is working as a "fat" client, in addition to making the 
>"-query" change, also add this line to /etc/inittab
>
>
>	esd:5:respawn:/bin/esd -nobeeps -tcp -port 16001
>
>
>I can't remember off-hand (and can't test at the moment) if esd 
>automatically runs as a daemon or not. The man page implies that it 
>does not. But if it does, the above line will have to be changed
>to:
>
>	esd:5:once:/bin/esd -nobeeps -tcp -port 16001
>
>
>Now you can set your K12LTSP server to use esd, in lts.conf set:
>
>	SOUND_DAEMON     = "esd"
>
>
>If my theory is correct, sound should now work with the mac in "thin" 
>mode.
>
>
>-Eric
>

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