[K12OSN] IE requirement

Terrell Prude', Jr. microman at cmosnetworks.com
Mon May 24 03:34:42 UTC 2004

Our district has also, sadly, taken the "IE-only" development tack, even 
though we include Netscape 7 on our client Ghost images.  It looks to me 
like what's happening is that CraptiveX controls are getting used.  
Since no browsers besides Internet Exploder run CraptiveX controls, the 
sites aren't viewed properly in them.  I've run into several situations 
like that with a few Internet Web sites that do the IE-only thing.  When 
I told Konqueror to pretend it was IE, these few sites didn't work 
right, so I looked at the HTML source, and I saw 8.3 filenames in there 
(codebase=<something>.cab) as well as stuff that looked kinda similar to 
NT SIDs in format.  Looks to me like there's something hidden in a 
CABinet file there on their server that wants to get D/L'd to the client 
and executed.  I'm guessing that this code just doesn't even get D/L'd, 
since the browser doesn't know what to do with it.  No error messages 
come up, of course.

This said, there have been other sites that seem to check your browser 
version and won't run if it isn't some version of IE, but actually do 
work just fine if you use the Konqueror identity trick.  This was the 
case for one credit union's WWW site (I don't remember which one; it's 
been a bit).

Official Disclaimer:  I am not a professional software developer, be it 
for Web apps or otherwise, but rather just a systems/network engineer.


norbert wrote:

> Hi
> Nope tried that one too Opera doesn't cut it for certain "Educational 
> Applications" written for IE 5.5+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> norbert
> info at baf-computers.com wrote:
>> You could try opera as it fools most sites/
>> Les
>> On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:40:10 +0530, Sudev Barar 
>> <sudev at mantraonline.com>  wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 13:00, pnakashi at k12.hi.us wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Our district has recently standardized all administrative web app  
>>>> development to IE. This has put a crimp into our fledgling K12LTSP  
>>>> project (3 elementary schools, 90 clients). We've been tossing 
>>>> around  the following options:
>>>> 1. Dual bootable clients so when IE is required, the client can 
>>>> boot  Win 98.
>>>> 2. Wine on the server.
>>>> 3. Windows terminal server.
>>>> 4. Crossover Office on the server.
>>>> 5. Other suggestions welcome.
>>>> We are in a budget crisis, so I'm thinking #3 and #4 would be too  
>>>> expensive. Our clients aren't very powerful, so I'm thinking #1 is 
>>>> not  the greatest solution either. That leaves #2. Is anyone doing 
>>>> this with  K12LTSP?
>>>> --Peter
>>> Konqueror as part of KDE desktop comes with option to set "emulations"
>>> under "tools > change browser identification" menu. This allows you to
>>> set OS as well as browser emulation. Will this be of any help?

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