[K12OSN] Linux cut off

[Rob Owens]

I think one of the best points made was that this is not ITT or some vocational school.  A vocational school is responsible for preparing you for a job which you might take in a matter of months and as such, it would make sense for them to teach the "industry standard" software.  But for any student who plans on being a student for the next few years, it really doesn't matter what brand software is used.  The "industry standard" might be different by the time the student gets a job, and even if the brand is the same a few years later, it most likely will have gone through multiple new versions requiring the student to at least partially relearn it anyway.

Maybe the business teachers in question need to be reminded of the fact that their students will not be getting jobs tomorrow, but likely will be heading for 4 years of college once they're done with highschool.  And if they won't budge in their beliefs, then get Windows terminal services in there alongside K12LTSP, so the students and faculty can at least be exposed to some Linux.

-Rob



 --- On Fri 11/19, KJ < ksj2010 at myrealbox.com > wrote:
From: KJ [mailto: ksj2010 at myrealbox.com]
To: k12osn at redhat.com
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:20:18 -0500
Subject: RE: [K12OSN] Linux cut off

Hi Henry,<br>Interesting point.  I had not read that post as the teachers were saying<br>"we should only teach this because etc" I read it as they were simply<br>stating the fact that M$ is the standard on the desktop.  Which as you<br>pointed out is true.  I agree with you that the concepts should be<br>taught, the medium is not important.  That leads to my belief that if it<br>saves the taxpayers money AND accomplishes the desired result it should<br>be heralded and championed by all.<br><br>KJ  <br><br>On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:03, Henry Hartley wrote:<br>> >> -----Original Message-----<br>> >> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On<br>> Behalf Of KJ<br>> >> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:20 AM<br>> >> <br>> >> I apologize if I sounded like a M$ evangelist.  I'm not, I was<br>> >> simply saying that the business teachers are correct, it is the<br>> >> standard and I understand their point.<br>> <br>> While I <br>> a) understand what you ar!
e saying here and <br>> b) agree that MS software is "the standard in business" (at least<br>>    on the desktop) and<br>> c) understand the business teachers point,<br>> <br>> I also disagree that the business teachers are correct. I believe<br>> they are very wrong.  No one here is disputing that MS Office is<br>> much more widely used than (say) OpenOffice.  The dispute is over<br>> whether this implies we should teach MS Office which is what the<br>> business teachers in question are doing.  The point (in my opinion)<br>> is that this conclusion (and therefore the business teachers who<br>> make it) is wrong.  The fact that MS Office is "the standard in<br>> business" is, if not completely irrelevant to the discussion, at<br>> least not central.<br>> <br>> In fact, I think that most business people you ask will agree that<br>> knowledge of MS Word is completely useless in a potential employee<br>> if they cannot write (unless perhaps you are hiring an old fashioned<br>> !
secretary who will do nothing but type someone else's words).!
   In <br
>> the same way, knowledge of Photoshop in a potential employee is<br>> completely useless if the person is not at least a little bit<br>> artistic.<br>> <br>> Furthermore, claims that MS software is the standard in business <br>> anywhere other than the desktop are less obviously true and in some<br>> cases certainly false.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>K12OSN mailing list<br>K12OSN at redhat.com<br>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn<br>For more info see <http://www.k12os.org><br>

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