[K12OSN] finding user passwords

Huck dhuckaby at paasda.org
Thu Nov 11 16:03:34 UTC 2004


I agree with Jim...technology don't solve "parenting issues"..
Insubordination in today's youth I fear will be the ruin of us all...

[* removed the part about beat'n the kid with a 'holey paddle' ;) *]

--Huck

Jim Hays wrote:

>I would not try to crack the password.  I would resest the password to a default.
>
>A better question is "Why do the teachers need to know the password?".  Give the
>teachers rights to student folders.  This eliminates the teacher's need to know
>the password, unless, of course, the teacher is on a power trip and wants to
>control everything.  The only reason that I can see for a teacher needing to
>know the passwords would be for very young students where you expect the
>students to forget passwords and have login problems.  There are other ways to
>solve this that to have a manufactured fight between teacher and student.
>
>Reset the password.  Tell the student that he/she needs to share his/her
>password with the teacher if asked.
>
>The problem here seems to run much deeper that a technology issue.  Technology
>can't solve problems of insubordination, power plays, etc.  
>
>If you want, you can take the previous suggestion of changing permission
>settings on passwd and not allowing students to change passwords, but this can
>be handled at the policy level by implementing a school policy that students
>must share passwords with teachers if asked.  (If that is a direction your
>school wants to go.)
>
>Too often we try to come up with technological solutions for social problems.  I
>do not view a student not being willing to share a password with a teacher as a
>technological problem.  This is a student who is being insubordinate.  Steps
>need to be taken outside the realm of technology to deal with this.  
>
>If you don't have a policy regarding student passwords and teacher's access to
>student folders, you shoule write one and get it approved quickly.
>
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>Jim Hays
>Technology Director
>Monticello CUSD#25
>Monticello, IL  61856
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