[K12OSN] Selective floppy access ???

norbert bear2bar at netscape.net
Sat Nov 13 03:09:04 UTC 2004


rgibson57 at earthlink.net wrote:

> norbert wrote:
>
>> rgibson57 at earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>> norbert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We're starting to encounter a problem with the floppyd function.
>>>> Recently, without there being any changes to the system cedrtain
>>>> thin-client cannot access the local floppy drive. Message is 
>>>> permission
>>>> denied, but when I check both the lts.conf and the workstation
>>>> permissions these are no different from the other workstation that can
>>>> access the local floppy....... any suggestions
>>>> K12LTSP V4.0.1
>>>> Server P-IV 2.8GHz, 2GB, 2x 80GB SATA HD
>>>> Workstations - Compaq P-I mix of 5175 to 5166
>>>> NIC 3-Com 905
>>>>
>>>> and no its not a certain box but a mix of ws's..... ?
>>>>
>>>> thks
>>>> norbert
>>>>
>>> I had what sounds like a similar problem last week. I spent a couple 
>>> of hours trying to track down the problem. Freaking out thinking 
>>> something was wrong building-wide. I finally decided it was bad 
>>> floppies. The floppies in question wouldn't work in the server, or 
>>> any Windows machines either. I formatted on the teachers windows 
>>> machine a blank floppy and went to the thin clients that seemed to 
>>> be having problems (with the two previous floppies). The new 
>>> formatted floppy worked fine, copied back and forth, logged into the 
>>> next machine, copied back and forth. Then, later the lab teacher 
>>> told me that when a student brings in a bad floppy and has access 
>>> problems, and she gets the permission denied message, she finds she 
>>> must reboot the thin client for any floppy to work. (?)
>>>
>>> I chalked it off to the fact that in my experience about a third of 
>>> any given box of floppies is bad right off the shelf. I always 
>>> format a floppy before I use it, but most people may not do that.We 
>>> have one linux workstation in the lab with USB ports in the front 
>>> panel and the kids can log into that machine with a USB key and copy 
>>> their stuff to their homes. We purchased some USB keys (watch for 
>>> sales and rebates) and check them out like library books for kids 
>>> who can't email their work to themselves because they don't have 
>>> internet access, or if they are working on something big. The USB 
>>> keys seem to be much more reliable than floppies. (We don't have any 
>>> clients with USB ports, so I went and bought a newer case so the 
>>> ports would be on the front with easy access just for the kids.)
>>>
>>> Rita Gibson
>>> RMSEL Tech
>>>
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>>
>>
>> Hi Rita,
>>
>> Thank you for the response, I did consider bad floppies, but 
>> discounted that when those same floppies were read without problems 
>> on other clients. Further to eliminate the possibility that the 
>> drives are we tested with new drives and the same problem appeared. 
>> The strangest is that most of the WS use a boot floppy.
>> I agree using USB would be great but the school doesn't have budgets 
>> to swap them out ...
>>
>> thanks
>> norbert
>>
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> Did you try rebooting the client to see if the floppies worked then? 
> Also, have you cleaned the floppy drives lately?
>
> Rita
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Hi Rita,

Yes I've tried rebooting the WS numerous times, but cleaning the floppy 
drives ? I've replaced the floppy drives wihout any effect.

thks
norbert




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