[K12OSN] synaptic and K12LSTP repositories

[Eric Harrison]

To answer the other part of the question, webmin is *supposed* to
be in the apt repository. I only have 4.4.0 boxes available to me
right at this moment, but they all see webmin...

 	$ apt-cache search webmin
 	webmin - A web-based administration interface for Unix systems.

Petre, what version of K12LTSP are you working with?

-Eric

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Gustav J Kramer wrote:

> Check out yumex.  With K12LTSP 4.4 using the default gnome desktop it
> can be found at "Applications -> System Tools -> Yum Extender".  Works a
> treat!
>
> - gustav
>
> On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 08:25 -0500, Petre Scheie wrote:
>>
>> Petre Scheie wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Harrison wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Mike Heins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Les Mikesell (les at futuresource.com):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 13:22, Mike Heins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In practice, webmin seems to be pretty secure and there are a lot
>>>>>>> of people using it successfully. I will admit to placing it a couple
>>>>>>> of places where the system administrators don't have strong Linux
>>>>>>> knowledge. But I don't think it is the right way to run a railroad
>>>>>>> if you have an alternative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, 'the alternative' is years of experience...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't mean to try and sound like I was talking from the top
>>>>> of a mountain, not at all. Though I have the years of experience,
>>>>> I recognize that not everyone does.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just explaining why I think it is not configured into
>>>>> k12ltsp by default.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You missed the main reason Webmin is not installed by default...
>>>>
>>>> The official Webmin packages copy the root password from /etc/passwd
>>>> (or /etc/shadow) when the package is installed. During the process
>>>> of installing the operating system, the root password is empty.
>>>> If Webmin is installed as part of the OS, it ends up with root
>>>> rights and no password. From a security perspective, the results
>>>> are non-optimal ;-)
>>>>
>>>> The two choices were to maintain a customized Webmin package that
>>>> works around this issue or to have an option to install Webmin
>>>> after the install was complete. Maintaining customized packages
>>>> can put a huge drag on K12LTSP development, thus the post-install
>>>> option was quite attractive.
>>>>
>>>> -Eric
>>>>
>>> And I must say the post-install option worked like a champ.  Thanks for
>>> building that option, Eric.
>>>
>>> Petre
>>>
>> Does MESD maintain apt repositories?  Going back to my original question, is there a
>> reason why Webmin can't be installed via Syanptic?  Well, yes, the reason is that
>> Synaptic comes configured with the stock FC repositories.  My real question is, if not
>> Synaptic, what do people use to give novices a grahpical tool for seeing what packages
>> are available and what packages they have installed, etc.  (Perhaps Webmin is a bad
>> choice for an example because its security implications have forced the workaround that
>> Eric has created.)  Is there a gui for yum?
>>
>> Petre
>>