[K12OSN] synaptic and K12LSTP repositories

[Petre Scheie]

4.2.1

Eric Harrison wrote:
> 
> To answer the other part of the question, webmin is *supposed* to
> be in the apt repository. I only have 4.4.0 boxes available to me
> right at this moment, but they all see webmin...
> 
>     $ apt-cache search webmin
>     webmin - A web-based administration interface for Unix systems.
> 
> Petre, what version of K12LTSP are you working with?
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Gustav J Kramer wrote:
> 
>> Check out yumex.  With K12LTSP 4.4 using the default gnome desktop it
>> can be found at "Applications -> System Tools -> Yum Extender".  Works a
>> treat!
>>
>> - gustav
>>
>> On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 08:25 -0500, Petre Scheie wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Petre Scheie wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric Harrison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Mike Heins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Les Mikesell (les at futuresource.com):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 13:22, Mike Heins wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In practice, webmin seems to be pretty secure and there are a lot
>>>>>>>> of people using it successfully. I will admit to placing it a 
>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>> of places where the system administrators don't have strong Linux
>>>>>>>> knowledge. But I don't think it is the right way to run a railroad
>>>>>>>> if you have an alternative.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, 'the alternative' is years of experience...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't mean to try and sound like I was talking from the top
>>>>>> of a mountain, not at all. Though I have the years of experience,
>>>>>> I recognize that not everyone does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just explaining why I think it is not configured into
>>>>>> k12ltsp by default.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You missed the main reason Webmin is not installed by default...
>>>>>
>>>>> The official Webmin packages copy the root password from /etc/passwd
>>>>> (or /etc/shadow) when the package is installed. During the process
>>>>> of installing the operating system, the root password is empty.
>>>>> If Webmin is installed as part of the OS, it ends up with root
>>>>> rights and no password. From a security perspective, the results
>>>>> are non-optimal ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The two choices were to maintain a customized Webmin package that
>>>>> works around this issue or to have an option to install Webmin
>>>>> after the install was complete. Maintaining customized packages
>>>>> can put a huge drag on K12LTSP development, thus the post-install
>>>>> option was quite attractive.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>
>>>> And I must say the post-install option worked like a champ.  Thanks for
>>>> building that option, Eric.
>>>>
>>>> Petre
>>>>
>>> Does MESD maintain apt repositories?  Going back to my original 
>>> question, is there a
>>> reason why Webmin can't be installed via Syanptic?  Well, yes, the 
>>> reason is that
>>> Synaptic comes configured with the stock FC repositories.  My real 
>>> question is, if not
>>> Synaptic, what do people use to give novices a grahpical tool for 
>>> seeing what packages
>>> are available and what packages they have installed, etc.  (Perhaps 
>>> Webmin is a bad
>>> choice for an example because its security implications have forced 
>>> the workaround that
>>> Eric has created.)  Is there a gui for yum?
>>>
>>> Petre
>>>
> 
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