[K12OSN] Booting macs

Sat Aug 27 10:43:13 UTC 2005

i can send you my dhcpd.conf from the laptop if you like...

> Thanks everyone for their help so far.  I'm narrowing down the problem, and
> I think I'm nearly there.
> 
> At first I wanted to make sure that the DHCP server was working properly for
> the mac, so I changed the network card on the mac to take dhcp, which it did
> with no problem, getting 192.168.0.211.
> 
> I went to the messages log, and saw something to the effect of "not
> authoratative for the subnet 192.168.0.0"  Somewhere in google, I saw that I
> should add the line "authoratative;" (without quotes) to the top line of the
> dhcpd.conf, which I did, then restarted dhcpd.
> 
> Now in my messages log, it looks like it gets the ip address, but never
> gives out the OS.
> 
> For a successful boot with x86, it looks like:
> 
> Aug 26 09:31:15 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:10:4b:57:f2:68 via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:16 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.213 to 00:10:4b:57:f2:68
> via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:16 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.213 (192.168.0.254)
> from 00:10:4b:57:f2:68 via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:16 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.213 to 00:10:4b:57:f2:68
> via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:22 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:10:4b:57:f2:68 via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:22 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.213 to 00:10:4b:57:f2:68
> via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:23 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.213 (192.168.0.254)
> from 00:10:4b:57:f2:68 via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:23 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.213 to 00:10:4b:57:f2:68
> via eth0
> Aug 26 09:31:23 ltsp rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from
> ws213.ltsp:657 for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp/i386)
> 
> Before I added the authortative line, it looked like:
> 
> Aug 26 09:50:55 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:14:51:07:39:ba via eth0
> Aug 26 09:50:56 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.216 to 00:14:51:07:39:ba
> via eth0
> Aug 26 09:50:56 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.216 (192.168.0.254)
> from 00:14:51:07:39:ba via eth0
> Aug 26 09:50:56 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.216 to 00:14:51:07:39:ba
> via eth0
> Aug 26 09:51:00 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPINFORM from 192.168.0.216 via eth0: not
> authoritative for subnet 192.168.0.0
> Aug 26 09:51:58 ltsp last message repeated 3 times
> 
> After I added the authortative line:
> 
> Aug 26 12:51:35 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0d:93:53:d8:ca via eth0
> Aug 26 12:51:36 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.211 to 00:0d:93:53:d8:ca
> via eth0
> Aug 26 12:51:36 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.211 (192.168.0.254)
> from 00:0d:93:53:d8:ca via eth0
> Aug 26 12:51:36 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.211 to 00:0d:93:53:d8:ca
> via eth0
> Aug 26 12:51:40 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPINFORM from 192.168.0.211 via eth0
> Aug 26 12:51:40 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK to 192.168.0.211
> Aug 26 12:51:49 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPINFORM from 192.168.0.211 via eth0
> Aug 26 12:51:49 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK to 192.168.0.211
> Aug 26 12:52:05 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPINFORM from 192.168.0.211 via eth0
> Aug 26 12:52:05 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK to 192.168.0.211
> Aug 26 12:52:38 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPINFORM from 192.168.0.211 via eth0
> Aug 26 12:52:38 ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK to 192.168.0.211
> 
> Like it's just cranking away, but not getting that kernel.  I do have
> /opt/ltsp/ppc/etc/lts.conf file that has been mentioned.
> 
> Any clues as to where to look? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf
> Of Petre Scheie
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: Support list for opensource software in schools.
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Booting macs
> 
> The flashing tile with the globe means it's trying to netboot.  When it is
> working correctly on my one Mac (sheesh, give the guy a Mac and suddenly
> he's an authority on it
> ;-)) the tile blinks only once or twice, and then starts booting from the
> server. 
> Initially, it wasn't working for me, with the tile blinking for several
> minutes, just like yours, because I don't use the default 192.168.0.x
> addressing, but the ppc lts file does.  When I changed the addressing in the
> ppc lts.conf file, it started working.  So, lots of words to say that it
> sounds like your Mac isn't finding the server.
> 
> To answer your last question, yes, you can have your server booting both x86
> and ppc clients at the same time.  I love showing that off to people,
> demonstrating how flexible Linux is.
> 
> Petre
> 
> Eric Brown wrote:
> > This information was most helpful.  Thanks Shawn
> > 
> > The G3 I had was the beige all-in-one model.  Unfortunatly, that's 
> > what we have throughout our district.  I'll see if I can't have one to 
> > try out yellow dog.
> > 
> > Now, I've gotten an eMac, white egg-shell type machine, that runs OS X 
> > pretty well.  I held down the N key when it booted, and I got a 
> > flashing tile with a globe in the middle of the screen for a few 
> > minutes, then it booted into OS X.  I then tried to change the startup 
> > disk to a net boot, restarted, and got the same thing.
> > 
> > I checked the lts.conf file, and the second or third line does state 
> > that the server is the correct address (the default of 192.168.0.254.
> > 
> > Can I have BOTH x86 pc's and ppc's running on my ltsp network at the 
> > same time?  I've also got 20-some old gateways running ltsp so I know 
> > my dhcp is working.
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > Eric
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Shawn Powers
> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:06 PM
> > To: Support list for opensource software in schools.
> > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Booting macs
> > 
> > cliebow at downeast.net wrote:
> > 
> >>if they are old world gv3 without openfirmware..they wont netboot
> > 
> > 
> > If it is in fact an iMac (color other than beige) it will neboot.  
> > Even the original Bondi iMacs will netboot.
> > 
> > I can't get mine to boot either, and I'm not sure why.  I installed 
> > 4.4.0
> > pre2 on a test server, with all the default settings, and got an iMac 
> > to boot fine.  When I put it on a production server (with 4.4.0 pre3), 
> > I can't get it to work.  On the suggestion from David Trask (I think?  
> > Maybe Jim
> > Kronebusch...) I edited the /opt/ltsp/ppc/etc/lts.conf file to point 
> > to the new IP of the server, but still it wouldn't boot.
> > Perhaps it was something with my external DHCP server.  I tried 
> > copying all the if/then magic regarding the kernel image, etc -- but no
> glory.
> > I've been too busy with other stuff (still at work, after 9PM) to 
> > troubleshoot as well, which really stinks.
> > 
> > Will they boot from a stock (read: all defaults) install on a 2 NIC
> server?
> > I hope it works for you, it's uber-cool to see one boot up. 
> > And lastly, no -- you don't see a happy mac.  It goes to a black 
> > screen with text as soon as it gets the kernel.
> > 
> > If it *is* a beige computer, like the G3 all in one model -- the 
> > chubby client is the way to go.  I still have a handful of PowerMac 
> > 5500's in service.  They have a local install of yellowdog linux, and 
> > do an X -query command to connect to the server.  I even mangled 
> > around the esd stuff, and they have sound support too.  I haven't 
> > messed with them for over a year though, so I'm a little rusty.
> > 
> > Don't give up -- even though it's the busiest time of year for most of 
> > us, I/we/us will try to figure out the problem, especially since 
> > you're not alone.  (mine won't work either yet)
> > 
> > -Shawn
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Shawn Powers
> > Technology Director
> > Inland Lakes Schools
> > PHN: 231-238-6868 x9174
> > FAX: 509-356-7024
> > spowers at inlandlakes.org
> > http://techcorner.inlandlakes.org
> > 
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