[K12OSN] Firefox question

jconlon1 at elp.rr.com jconlon1 at elp.rr.com
Thu Dec 8 18:11:47 UTC 2005

If I'm not mistaken, our district already has such expertise on hand. 
The key is just to get the piece of paper for them to testify about.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Ely <mely at rogueriver.k12.or.us>
Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2005 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Firefox question

> John P. Conlon wrote:
> > Our district does the blocking at their level in the network.  
> > Occasionally a student goes looking for the things that haven't 
> been 
> > blocked yet and the ones where the jerks have found a new way 
> around the 
> > filters.  When they find them the students get a visit to the 
> assistant 
> > principal and enjoy several days of in-school punishment 
> suspension.  
> > The with last occurrence we had a father threaten to sue the 
> school and 
> > various teachers etc. which is why we are looking for things that 
> a tech 
> > illiterate judge would understand.  Being able to print out a 
> hard copy 
> > of that individuals network user history is among the most 
> desirable 
> > things to be able to do.
> > Thanks
> > Pat
> > 
> If you're looking for a solid evidence trail, you're in for a much 
> more 
> expensive ride - a printout like you describe will likely be binned 
> out 
> of hand as heresay if it's introduced on its own.
> What would be more likely to be effective in that venue is a 
> court-recognized expert witness who can testify to the contents of 
> the 
> cache, along with testimony related to the accuracy of the 
> timestamps 
> and the fact that those cache files were found in that student's 
> profile.  If at that point you can prove that the student was 
> actually 
> at that computer at the time matching the timestamps and not some 
> other 
> student, then you've got a case.
> Of course, you can expect to pay three figures per-hour for an 
> expert 
> witness that has experience in such litigation.
> Mike
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