[K12OSN] OT: hard drive emergency -- update

Walker, Clay clay at bridgeportisd.net
Thu Feb 3 13:42:31 UTC 2005

I have had USB devices hose up the boot process (to a point that they
can not boot) on Win boxes.  All I can figure is that the system some
how is thinking it is a USB Hard drive/storage device and attempting to
boot from it.  I didn't spend too much time messing with the boot
sequence in BIOS to know if this was true or not.  Once USB was
unplugged, all was well.

Hope this helps.


-----Original Message-----
From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Owens
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:19 AM
To: k12osn at redhat.com
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] OT: hard drive emergency -- update

After I posted the problem to this list, the laptop still would boot
into linux, but wouldn't run the ssh daemon. So I had my sister boot
into Knoppix and set up an ssh server. I managed to tar and copy /etc,
and when I started looking for her data in /home and the windows
partition, the directories were coming up empty. It died as I was
working on it.

Some over-the-phone diagnostics w/ Dell confirmed that it is dead, and
they are sending a new hard drive (under warranty. luckily). Problem is,
they want the old hard drive back and I'd rather have my sister send it
to me so I can try it periodically--in case it "wakes up", I'd grab all
her pictures and stuff off of it.

The hard drive showed no signs of failure until this. It happenned very
fast. Is that typical?

I'm still suspicious of the iPod, because of how it would stymie the
boot process if it was left plugged in.


 --- On Wed 02/02, Petre Scheie < petre at maltzen.net > wrote:
From: Petre Scheie [mailto: petre at maltzen.net]
To: robowens at myway.com, k12osn at redhat.com
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:28:18 -0600
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] OT:  hard drive emergency

My neighbor re-installed his Windows box from scratch a few months
ago--it was <br>either XP or ME, I can't remember which.  He had
forgotten that his iPod was <br>attached during this, and afterward
discoverd that all the music he had on the <br>iPod was
trashed/gone/unavailable.  I can't see any logical connection between
<br>his experience and yours, aside from the correlation that anytime a
change is <br>made to the OS, having an iPod connected during the change
seems to wreak havoc.<br><br>Petre<br><br>Rob Owens wrote:<br>> Thanks.
I'm looking into smartd right now.<br>> <br>> Is it possible for a usb
device like an iPod to screw up the partition table or the bios? I
really suspect that the problem has to do w/ the iPod, but I can't
understand why it would have the ability to do this kind of damage.<br>>
<br>> -Rob<br>> <br>> <br>>  --- On Wed 02/02, Burke Almquist <
balmquist at mindfirestudios.com > wrote:<br>> From: Burke Almquist
[mailto: balmquist at mindfirestudios.com]!
<br>> To: robowens at myway.com, k12osn at redhat.com<br>> Date: Wed, 2 Feb
2005 07:02:35 -0600<br>> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] OT:  hard drive
emergency<br>> <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash:
SHA1<br><br>you might try running smartd to see if your drive is
reporting any <br>errors, spinrite (grc.com) is also supposed to be
really good at <br>detecting drive errors, but it costs
money.<br>Finally, you might try your HD manufacturer's test
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