[K12OSN] blacklists -- paid vs. free

Rob Owens hick518 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 21 10:06:59 UTC 2005


thanks for the info.  

Are there any good reporting tools for squidguard an
dansguardian?  I'm fine w/ looking through the logs,
but I'm trying to break these guys in easy and it
would help if I could show them a gui tool that lets
them see who's getting blocked and how often.

Thanks again.

-Rob

--- richard ingalls <aslansreturn at yahoo.com> wrote:

> My first Linux project was to get my school district
> properly "filtered".  The commercial filter they
> were
> using was unacceptable.  I pulled it off the network
> and built a squid/SquidGuard/DansGuardian box.  I
> found an easy to use webmin module for DansGuardian
> (DG) and use it to administer the filter.  I never
> touch squid or squidGuard, but SG updates it's lists
> every night automagically!  I use DG to customize
> the
> "phraselists" and it seems to work very well!  Out
> cost? 0$!
> 
> You can't beat FREE!  And it works beautifully!
> 
> --- Mark Sarria <mes4294 at lausd.k12.ca.us> wrote:
> 
> > This is a good question and it happens to tie in
> > with the comparison I am
> > performing. Our district purchased Websense
> > Enterprise, and I have Squid
> > running SquidGuard locally in my school.
> > I don't have full control of Websense so it might
> > not be a far comparison.
> > Our procedure for adding website to our blacklist
> is
> > to call the district
> > office ITD and have them add it to the Websense
> > blacklist.
> > 
> > My squid server updates its black list every
> night.
> > The past few weeks I
> > have been testing for filtering. In my testing I
> > found that Websense blocked
> > more sites than my squidguard filter. It was able
> to
> > block sites in the
> > google sponsored links section. In order to block
> > those sites using my
> > squidguard server, I had to add them to my
> > blacklist. This could perhaps
> > mean that the district hired someone or is paying
> > Websense to create a
> > custom filter rule for the district. Since all
> 2000
> > plus high schools use
> > the same filters.
> > Don't confuse the fact that squidguard does not do
> > proper filtering, in deed
> > it does. There were a few sites that squidguard
> did
> > block that websense did
> > not and squidguard does a pretty good job of
> > blocking adware and spyware,
> > were websense does nothing to protect us from
> that.
> > 
> > To answer your question, it will depend on how
> much
> > administration you are
> > will to do or in your case charge for. You will
> > always have to add your own
> > site to the blacklist regardless of solution you
> > choose, paid blacklist or
> > free blacklist.
> > 
> > --mark 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com
> > [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf
> > Of Rob Owens
> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 8:37 AM
> > To: k12osn at redhat.com
> > Subject: [K12OSN] blacklists -- paid vs. free 
> > 
> > I'm setting up a content filter and was wondering
> > what
> > everybody's opinions were on the free blacklists
> > available on the web vs the ones you can buy from
> > various companies.  I don't have experience using
> > either.  This particular setup is for a company
> that
> > has money to spend, but if the free lists are just
> > as
> > good as the paid ones, then I'll have the company
> > spend their money elsewhere.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > -Rob
> > 
> > 
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