[K12OSN] LTSP 4.2

[David Trask]

>vangundypw at sau14.k12.nh.us on Sunday, April 09, 2006 at 9:06 AM +0000
>wrote:
>>Ramon,
>>
>>Excellent question. Yes, it does. However the integration of LTSP into
>>Edubuntu wasn't done properly. The Ubuntu/Edubuntu development teams
>>know this and are trying to correct it in their next version of Edubuntu
>>(6.06). Therefore, Edubuntu isn't a reliable LTSP distribution at this
>>time. I hope this helps!
>>
>>-Paul 
>
>Actually, it's not that it wasn't done properly, but yet it was done
>differently.  This is actually a MueKow implementation of LTSP. 
>AND...remember that the LTSP bits were essentially shoved into Edubuntu
>just prior to the last release in October, thus there is a long way to go.
> I know we'll see a huge improvement in Dapper as Oliver Grauwert and the
>rest of the Edubuntu team are working hard on this.  So....it's not that
>it wasn't done properly....it was indeed....in fact it's pretty cool to
>see the result of one of the first MueKow implementations.  Now...I do
>happen to agree that I would not recommend this implementation of
>Edubuntu/LTSP for production use...and the Edubuntu guys would agree with
>me.  The Breezy implementation was more of a "proof-of-concept" as opposed
>to the release we should see with Dapper.  
>
>Also....Matt and I met at length with Warren Togami, Chris DeKoneigsburg,
>and several other Fedora/Redhat folks about LTSP, K12LTSP (in particular)
>, and Linux in Education in general.  It was such an exciting
>conversation/meeting that I still have goosebumps.  Warren and Chris are
>very cool and they too shared our enthusiasm for Linux in education. 
>Many...many...points were discussed, but in short....we're going to see
>some seriously cool support for the K12LTSP project and Linux in Education
>in general coming our way over the next few months.  Hang on....it's going
>to be a great ride!

"Support list for opensource software in schools." <k12osn at redhat.com> on
Sunday, April 09, 2006 at 11:08 AM +0000 wrote:
>> I'm not sure where you got the idea that the LTSP bits were shoved 
>> into Edubuntu just prior to release in October.
>There were 4 of us LTSP/K12LTSP guys at the Ubuntu developers meeting in 
>Sydney at the end of April, working VERY closely with the Ubuntu 
>developers, to put LTSP into Breezy Ubuntu and Edubuntu.  In fact, 
>preliminary work on this was started at a meeting in Portland Oregon, 
>between Eric Harrison, Matt Zimmerman and myself at the end of February 
>2005.  So, to think that LTSP in Edubuntu was a last minute thing is 
>both inaccurate and an insult to the developers that worked so hard on 
>the LTSP/Ubuntu integration.

Whoa....no insult intended....believe me.  The words "shoved" and/or
"shoehorned" were quoted to me by an Edubuntu staffer (who shall remain
nameless) in Montreal.  Looking at it now...I agree....it's a poor choice
of words.  I was aware of the meeting you. Eric...et al had in February as
you were leaving for that meeting shortly after LinuxWorld I think (last
year).  Jim....I would never minimize the work you all do....none of us
would even be on this list if it were not for you, Eric, Scotty and many
others who work hard to make LTSP a reality.  The Edubuntu folks are doing
some remarkable work....I actually run Edubuntu on my own laptop (so does
Gadi...hi Gadi!).  I was lucky and fortunate (and I truly mean that) to
meet Matt Zimmerman, Oliver Grauwert, Jane, and many others who are
intimately involved with Edubuntu.  It's extremely exciting....and I
really look forward to what comes next.  Please accept my apologies....I
never meant to minimize anyone's hard work...in any way.

David N. Trask
Technology Teacher/Director
Vassalboro Community School
dtrask at vcsvikings.org
(207)923-3100