I forgot to write the permissions of the directory and files that the user created : drwxr-xr-x 2 terminal1 users 4096 15.dets 15:20 "nimeta kataloog" and in this directory a file : drwx------ 23 terminal1 users 4096 15.dets 15:20 "uus fail" Meelis --- meelis at nlib.ee