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Re: [K12OSN] Advocacy in Curriculum

a little personal advocacy,  give the students a choice of keyboards and
make it known..  have at least both Qwerty and Dvorak loaded and ready to


On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Shane Sammons wrote:

> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:51:07 -0500
> From: Shane Sammons <shane sammons gmail com>
> Reply-To: Support list for open source software in schools.
>     <k12osn redhat com>
> To: Support list for open source software in schools. <k12osn redhat com>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Advocacy in Curriculum
> I am probably one of the younger ones in the list, I am 25. I personally
> agree with Todd. You can teach at any age they can type comfortably.
> However, like he said best to have a reward/purpose they can see. I myself
> am a very hands on visual learner. For me this field and profession is only
> fun because I can "see" my results. I despise using the command line because
> it does not suit my personality/style but I use it regardless because of the
> power it holds. If all I had was the command line or script interface I
> would likely go nuts.
> It took me years of coding in HTML, Perl, PHP, Visual Basic, etc. to just
> get past the code and realize the goal I was trying to achieve. It was only
> once I got to see a website, GUI interface or results in the GUI I felt
> excited. I know this is common, but I have met people who get a thrill
> writing perl scripts and such that simply swap Apache installations or
> something totally unseen from visual perspective only known if you
> investigate the system. I think most kids are like me with attention spans,
> they need to see fruit of their labor.
> Then you pick your top kids make a club, and have them dive in deeper and
> become the next series of IT people to come into the world :D.
> On 12/20/06, Todd O'Bryan <toddobryan mac com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm getting a thin terminal lab after break and am interested in
> > developing a curriculum that would exist in parallel with the
> > programming classes I teach so that students learn a little bit more
> > about Linux each year in my class. Ideally, by the third year, they'd
> > be able to take and pass the Linux+ exam that CompTIA offers (because
> > our state vocational ed department is just gaga over industry
> > certifications).
> >
> > I'll let you know what I come with, assuming I actually manage to
> > come up with anything, but would be very interested to see anything
> > other people have developed.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > P.S. I think you can teach command line stuff as soon as they can
> > type fast enough that it's not frustrating. The key, though, is
> > motivation. They're not going to want to use the command line to do
> > something they can do easier with the GUI. Finding tasks that are
> > easier with a few typed commands would be key to making it
> > interesting for students.
> >
> > On Dec 20, 2006, at 1:03 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/19/06, Kari Matthews <karisue gmail com> wrote:
> > >> Wow.
> > >>
> > >> At what age/grade should we start them on command line, in your
> > >> (anyone's)
> > >> opinion?
> > >
> > > My intro Python/Linux course is offered to students starting in
> > > grade 10 and up.
> > >
> >
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