[K12OSN] Starting with NO Thin Clients to PC or to Thin

[ATM Logic]

Ooops... Should have made that more clear...  What I was talking about was
taking the Cheap Fat Clients, removing the HDD and having them boot from CD
to the terminal server.  (Or getting boot Rom's or something.... But Yes,
using the cheap systems as thin clients, and I have 50 available, but only
will need about 20-30 tops.

---Thanks


Not too mention the fact that managing 50 Windows machines (fat clients) is
A LOT more work than managing 50 thin clients.  With thin clients, you
manage one box, the server. 
  With 50 Windows boxes, you'll have *50 times* the workload.  That's not an
exaggeration.  So, the Windows boxes will cost you a lot more than just the
initial purchase.

Or did you mean that you'd use the IBM's as thin clients?

ATM Logic wrote:
> Thanks for the reply's  One of the other reasons I ask is we can pick 
> up about 50 or so IBM's preloaded with XP Home for about the cost of a 
> ThinClient (about $200ish) They are 1.8G with 256Mb.  My thought is to 
> grab them up, and have a load of spares... HOWEVER they make that much 
> more noise, and are already 2-3 years old...
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On 
> Behalf Of Gideon Romm
> Sent: March 8, 2006 10:51 AM
> To: Support list for opensource software in schools.
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Starting with NO Thin Clients to PC or to Thin
> 
> On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 08:01 -0600, ATM Logic wrote:
>>  I would like to deploy this to a small school for a K-4 
>> enviroment...(20-30
>> Client)
>>
> 
> If sound is important, I would suggest going with an IceWM or Gnome 
> desktop environment and esd sound.  I know David Trask and other of my 
> friends up in Maine will probably advocate nasd rather than esd, but 
> you will get great support either way from this list.
> 
>> I think its important to have sound at this level, so that is one part.
>> Now... If they are starting with nothing, should they try to round up 
>> a whole load of mix and match PC's or go all, brand new thin clinets?
>> If new and thin... What do you recommend?  Wyse, Compaq, Dell?
>>
> 
> If you are planning on having a lab for many years and are starting 
> fresh, you will save yourself a lot of time and aggravation going with 
> new thin clients.  It will also impress parents/teachers/kids/decision 
> makers a lot more.
> 
> That said, if you don't have the budget and would like to reuse old 
> equipment, note that if sound is important, make sure that all the 
> sound cards are PCI (*not* ISA) and that they work well in Linux.
> 
> In terms of diskless thin client products, you can check out:
> 
> 1. DisklessWorkstations.com (owned/operated by LTSP founders Jim 
> McQuillan and Ron Colcernian) 2. DisklessThinClients.com ( a brand new 
> store operated by Symbio Technologies - also a member of the core LTSP 
> development team, but stocked with thin clients from many 
> manufacturers.  There is a nice compare feature - if I do say so 
> myself - where you can compare a variety of models side-by-side )
> 
> Hopefully, that should get you started.  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Gideon
> 
>> Thanks,
>>
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