[K12OSN] need bootrom/etherboot for Compaq net1/33s

john lists.john at gmail.com
Thu Mar 16 19:12:37 UTC 2006


Hi All,

Sadly I am not having much luck getting this going. The BIOS on the
Compaq Net1/33S doesn't recognize the 3COM 3C509 (which I sort of
expected since I assume ISA doesn't do PnP), and there doesn't appear
to be a way to assign it an I/O address and an interupt. I don't even
get link on the hub when I plug it in.

In the hope that the Etherboot CD could provide enough information to
get me going I tried the 3c509 image from a boot floppy but the
message I got was:

Probing PCI nic
pci_init: no Bios32 detected

Probing ISA nic
[3x509]
<sleep>

Any ideas?

Thank you for sticking with me on this.

John

On 3/16/06, john <lists.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Petre!
>
> The clarification and advice was very helpful.
>
> John
>
> On 3/16/06, Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net> wrote:
> > I think Tim was trying to say that the 3c515 is the only supported ISA 10/100mb card,
> > since 100mb to the client is usually recommended, and that even then, because of ISA bus
> > limitations, you won't get 100mb. (There weren't many 100mb ISA cards made for just this
> > reason.) You are correct, that Etherlink IIIs will work, but only at 10mb, although that
> > can be adequate as others have said.  I still have a few 10mb Etherlink IIIs in use.
> > However, while most switches will drop to 10mb if that's what the NIC speed is, I have
> > found that with later releases of LTSP the terminals/clients have trouble booting when
> > connected this way.  As such, if I have 10mb cards in my clients, I make it a point to
> > connect them to a 10mb hub (yes, I still have some of those) which then connects to my
> > main 100mb switch.  Plus, I had to put some special settings, courtesy of Jim McQ, into
> > /etc/dhcpd.conf (which you have to do anyway with ISA cards).  Here's the relevant chunk
> > from dhcpd.conf:
> >
> > host wendolene {
> >          hardware ethernet     00:20:AF:14:DB:0B;
> >          fixed-address         172.26.18.5;
> >          filename              "/lts/vmlinuz.ltsp";
> >          option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00;
> >          option option-129 "NIC=3c509 MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048";
> >      }
> >
> > It's the "MOPTS=..." part that is necessary anymore with 10mb clients.  HTH
> >
> > Petre
> >
> > john wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the helpful advice!
> > >
> > > Tim, It _seems_ like 3COM Etherlink III's are supported in ISA mode.
> > > Am I misunderstanding the list of supported hardware. I have managed
> > > to scare some of those up.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On 3/15/06, Doug Simpson <veewee77 at alltel.net> wrote:
> > >>  john wrote:
> > >>  Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your replies. These machines don't have any PCI slots, and
> > >> I haven't dug up any ISA based 3COMs or the like yet.
> > >>
> > >> Chuck I don't understand the bootrom socket advice can you explain
> > >> that to me a bit.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >> On 3/15/06, cliebow at midmaine.com <cliebow at midmaine.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  John: if the card/motherboard has a bootrom socket boot the sucker into
> > >> knoppix-live ubuntu live..dsl live and get a pci id.
> > >> if it has a pci slot free you "may" be able to put a bootroomed card in
> > >> and boot from it..some will boot some wont...chuck
> > >>
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> > >>  Likely, you can look on that old motherboard and find the chipset for the
> > >> NIC that is on it and get the number and find native drivers for that
> > >> chipset.  This isan integrated NIC right?  Once you find the chipset, you
> > >> can then go to rom-0-matic and get a bootrom for it.
> > >>
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