[K12OSN] need bootrom/etherboot for Compaq net1/33s
john
lists.john at gmail.com
Thu Mar 16 21:55:50 UTC 2006
Hi Petre and John,
I downloaded the card config tool and messed around trying I/O:
I/O Base: 0300x
IRQ: 10
and
I/O Base: 0310x
IRQ: 11
no joy, though.
I randomly toggled some other settings (optimize for server, no modem,
PnP off) but no change in the etherboot message.
Is there a way to find out what I/O address and IRQ the 3C509
etherboot image is looking for? Perhaps it's neither of the above?
John
On 3/16/06, John G. Ruff <JRuff at sihope.com> wrote:
> Most ISA cards need to be manually configured. Early ones with jumpers,
> later ones with DOS software. The program name is 3C5X9CFG.EXE and
> should be on the diskette that came with the card. It can be downloaded
> from the 3Com website, probably here:
>
> http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/3c509.htm
>
> Normal setting are:
>
> I/O Base: 0300x
> IRQ: 10
> Cable Type: Auto
>
> Which may or not be appropriate in any particular situation.
>
> jr
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 11:12 -0800, john wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Sadly I am not having much luck getting this going. The BIOS on the
> > Compaq Net1/33S doesn't recognize the 3COM 3C509 (which I sort of
> > expected since I assume ISA doesn't do PnP), and there doesn't appear
> > to be a way to assign it an I/O address and an interupt. I don't even
> > get link on the hub when I plug it in.
> >
> > In the hope that the Etherboot CD could provide enough information to
> > get me going I tried the 3c509 image from a boot floppy but the
> > message I got was:
> >
> > Probing PCI nic
> > pci_init: no Bios32 detected
> >
> > Probing ISA nic
> > [3x509]
> > <sleep>
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thank you for sticking with me on this.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On 3/16/06, john <lists.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Petre!
> > >
> > > The clarification and advice was very helpful.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On 3/16/06, Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net> wrote:
> > > > I think Tim was trying to say that the 3c515 is the only supported ISA 10/100mb card,
> > > > since 100mb to the client is usually recommended, and that even then, because of ISA bus
> > > > limitations, you won't get 100mb. (There weren't many 100mb ISA cards made for just this
> > > > reason.) You are correct, that Etherlink IIIs will work, but only at 10mb, although that
> > > > can be adequate as others have said. I still have a few 10mb Etherlink IIIs in use.
> > > > However, while most switches will drop to 10mb if that's what the NIC speed is, I have
> > > > found that with later releases of LTSP the terminals/clients have trouble booting when
> > > > connected this way. As such, if I have 10mb cards in my clients, I make it a point to
> > > > connect them to a 10mb hub (yes, I still have some of those) which then connects to my
> > > > main 100mb switch. Plus, I had to put some special settings, courtesy of Jim McQ, into
> > > > /etc/dhcpd.conf (which you have to do anyway with ISA cards). Here's the relevant chunk
> > > > from dhcpd.conf:
> > > >
> > > > host wendolene {
> > > > hardware ethernet 00:20:AF:14:DB:0B;
> > > > fixed-address 172.26.18.5;
> > > > filename "/lts/vmlinuz.ltsp";
> > > > option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00;
> > > > option option-129 "NIC=3c509 MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048";
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > It's the "MOPTS=..." part that is necessary anymore with 10mb clients. HTH
> > > >
> > > > Petre
> > > >
> > > > john wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the helpful advice!
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim, It _seems_ like 3COM Etherlink III's are supported in ISA mode.
> > > > > Am I misunderstanding the list of supported hardware. I have managed
> > > > > to scare some of those up.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/15/06, Doug Simpson <veewee77 at alltel.net> wrote:
> > > > >> john wrote:
> > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks for your replies. These machines don't have any PCI slots, and
> > > > >> I haven't dug up any ISA based 3COMs or the like yet.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Chuck I don't understand the bootrom socket advice can you explain
> > > > >> that to me a bit.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> John
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 3/15/06, cliebow at midmaine.com <cliebow at midmaine.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> John: if the card/motherboard has a bootrom socket boot the sucker into
> > > > >> knoppix-live ubuntu live..dsl live and get a pci id.
> > > > >> if it has a pci slot free you "may" be able to put a bootroomed card in
> > > > >> and boot from it..some will boot some wont...chuck
> > > > >>
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> > > > >> Likely, you can look on that old motherboard and find the chipset for the
> > > > >> NIC that is on it and get the number and find native drivers for that
> > > > >> chipset. This isan integrated NIC right? Once you find the chipset, you
> > > > >> can then go to rom-0-matic and get a bootrom for it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Doug
> > > > >>
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