[K12OSN] need bootrom/etherboot for Compaq net1/33s
john
lists.john at gmail.com
Mon Mar 20 22:20:39 UTC 2006
HI Timothy,
Thanks for the response. I spent a day messing with this and can't
afford to spend more time. I'm moving to clients that I know I can
boot via PXE.
John
On 3/16/06, Timothy Legge <tlegge at rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Etherboot looks for a the card at an io address it doesn't care too much
> which address or irq is used as long as the it is not in use by other
> hardware.
>
> My first advice though would be to disable the on board nic if you can.
> However, you may want to open up the case and see if you can identify
> it. Compaq has used the tlan card but I forget whether the EB tlan
> driver supports isa (I did not have one to test).
>
> If you are able to boot a knoppix cd you may be able to find the on
> board nic driver. Otherwise send me a digital pic of the motherboard, I
> can often distinguish unmarked nics.
>
> Tim
>
>
> john wrote:
> > Hi Petre and John,
> >
> > I downloaded the card config tool and messed around trying I/O:
> >
> > I/O Base: 0300x
> > IRQ: 10
> >
> > and
> >
> > I/O Base: 0310x
> > IRQ: 11
> >
> > no joy, though.
> >
> > I randomly toggled some other settings (optimize for server, no modem,
> > PnP off) but no change in the etherboot message.
> >
> > Is there a way to find out what I/O address and IRQ the 3C509
> > etherboot image is looking for? Perhaps it's neither of the above?
> >
> > John
> >
> > On 3/16/06, John G. Ruff <JRuff at sihope.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Most ISA cards need to be manually configured. Early ones with jumpers,
> >>later ones with DOS software. The program name is 3C5X9CFG.EXE and
> >>should be on the diskette that came with the card. It can be downloaded
> >>from the 3Com website, probably here:
> >>
> >>http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/3c509.htm
> >>
> >>Normal setting are:
> >>
> >> I/O Base: 0300x
> >> IRQ: 10
> >> Cable Type: Auto
> >>
> >>Which may or not be appropriate in any particular situation.
> >>
> >>jr
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 11:12 -0800, john wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>Sadly I am not having much luck getting this going. The BIOS on the
> >>>Compaq Net1/33S doesn't recognize the 3COM 3C509 (which I sort of
> >>>expected since I assume ISA doesn't do PnP), and there doesn't appear
> >>>to be a way to assign it an I/O address and an interupt. I don't even
> >>>get link on the hub when I plug it in.
> >>>
> >>>In the hope that the Etherboot CD could provide enough information to
> >>>get me going I tried the 3c509 image from a boot floppy but the
> >>>message I got was:
> >>>
> >>>Probing PCI nic
> >>>pci_init: no Bios32 detected
> >>>
> >>>Probing ISA nic
> >>>[3x509]
> >>><sleep>
> >>>
> >>>Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>>Thank you for sticking with me on this.
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>
> >>>On 3/16/06, john <lists.john at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks Petre!
> >>>>
> >>>>The clarification and advice was very helpful.
> >>>>
> >>>>John
> >>>>
> >>>>On 3/16/06, Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>I think Tim was trying to say that the 3c515 is the only supported ISA 10/100mb card,
> >>>>>since 100mb to the client is usually recommended, and that even then, because of ISA bus
> >>>>>limitations, you won't get 100mb. (There weren't many 100mb ISA cards made for just this
> >>>>>reason.) You are correct, that Etherlink IIIs will work, but only at 10mb, although that
> >>>>>can be adequate as others have said. I still have a few 10mb Etherlink IIIs in use.
> >>>>>However, while most switches will drop to 10mb if that's what the NIC speed is, I have
> >>>>>found that with later releases of LTSP the terminals/clients have trouble booting when
> >>>>>connected this way. As such, if I have 10mb cards in my clients, I make it a point to
> >>>>>connect them to a 10mb hub (yes, I still have some of those) which then connects to my
> >>>>>main 100mb switch. Plus, I had to put some special settings, courtesy of Jim McQ, into
> >>>>>/etc/dhcpd.conf (which you have to do anyway with ISA cards). Here's the relevant chunk
> >>>>>from dhcpd.conf:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>host wendolene {
> >>>>> hardware ethernet 00:20:AF:14:DB:0B;
> >>>>> fixed-address 172.26.18.5;
> >>>>> filename "/lts/vmlinuz.ltsp";
> >>>>> option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00;
> >>>>> option option-129 "NIC=3c509 MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048";
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It's the "MOPTS=..." part that is necessary anymore with 10mb clients. HTH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Petre
> >>>>>
> >>>>>john wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks for the helpful advice!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Tim, It _seems_ like 3COM Etherlink III's are supported in ISA mode.
> >>>>>>Am I misunderstanding the list of supported hardware. I have managed
> >>>>>>to scare some of those up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>John
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On 3/15/06, Doug Simpson <veewee77 at alltel.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> john wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks for your replies. These machines don't have any PCI slots, and
> >>>>>>>I haven't dug up any ISA based 3COMs or the like yet.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Chuck I don't understand the bootrom socket advice can you explain
> >>>>>>>that to me a bit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On 3/15/06, cliebow at midmaine.com <cliebow at midmaine.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> John: if the card/motherboard has a bootrom socket boot the sucker into
> >>>>>>>knoppix-live ubuntu live..dsl live and get a pci id.
> >>>>>>>if it has a pci slot free you "may" be able to put a bootroomed card in
> >>>>>>>and boot from it..some will boot some wont...chuck
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> Likely, you can look on that old motherboard and find the chipset for the
> >>>>>>>NIC that is on it and get the number and find native drivers for that
> >>>>>>>chipset. This isan integrated NIC right? Once you find the chipset, you
> >>>>>>>can then go to rom-0-matic and get a bootrom for it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Doug
> >>>>>>>
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