[K12OSN] What programming languages are people teaching in K12LTSP environment

Petre Scheie petre at maltzen.net
Thu May 11 14:14:53 UTC 2006


I think the machines are about five years old.  Interestingly, they sometimes refer to 
them as 'stolen': they were donated by some fellow, from his company--except his company 
didn't know they were donating them.  They've had to replace two or three power supplies 
this past year.  They have a reputation for crashing a lot, but I suspect that's a 
software issue--W2K--rather than hardware.

Python seems like a good idea; what do you use for curriculum?  I'll have a look at the 
f4l on sourceforge.

Petre

Timothy Hart wrote:
> Python is always my favorite. Starlogo is another to use. I wish there 
> was a real version of Flash for Linux. I guess the questions they need 
> to answer is how important is Flash and Actionscript in the curriculum? 
> Would http://f4l.sourceforge.net/ (a stipped down swf creator) do what 
> they need? Are the old machines really that old, or do they just want to 
> update to get the latest version of flash?
> 
> On 5/11/06, *Petre Scheie* <petre at maltzen.net 
> <mailto:petre at maltzen.net>> wrote:
> 
>     At my kids' school, the two computer teachers are trying to get
>     money for upgrading
>     their computer lab for next fall.  They've calculated that they need
>     ~$32k to replace 25
>     machines with 3ghz P4s with 1GB RAM; they also want to replace the
>     CRTs with flat panels
>     to reduce the heat in the room, which is problem.  They're being
>     told there isn't that
>     much money available.
> 
>     I suggested that they look at buying/building a beefy LTSP server
>     and use the existing
>     machines as clients.  One of their hesitations has to do with
>     programming: they teach a
>     class on Flash, which I expect would be impossible to do on
>     Linux.  They also teach Java
>     which would not be a problem on Linux.  My question is what
>     programming classes are
>     people giving using their LTSP environments?  While I question the
>     value of teaching
>     Flash programming at the high school level, I think an argument can
>     be made for it in
>     the sense that people & businesses do like to use the things it
>     provides.  But I think
>     if I can suggest alternatives--and I don't mean just a replacement
>     for Flash, but rather
>     a list of languages that other schools are teaching--it might make a
>     difference.
> 
>     Petre
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