Oh ya. If you are going to OC them make sure you get nice ram. The FSB on this 805 D cpu is 533mhz not 800mhz that's why it's cheap. -- Robert Arkiletian Fl_TeacherTool http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ C++ GUI tutorial http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/