[K12OSN] Re: Opinions on a Forum
Bert Rolston
bert.rolston at clear.net.nz
Tue Nov 14 20:39:02 UTC 2006
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> 1. Do anyone here REALLY understand LTSP and remote sound?
> (Barry R Cisna)
> 2. Re: Opinions on a Forum (Les Mikesell)
> 3. Re: Opinions on a Forum (Dan Young)
> 4. esssolo1 linux driver (Jean Phil)
> 5. Re: User already logged in prompt (William Fragakis)
> 6. Do anyone here REALLY understand LTSP and remote sound?
> (William Fragakis)
> 7. Re: Opinions on a Forum (Burke Almquist)
> 8. Re: Do anyone here REALLY understand LTSP and remote sound?
> (Petre Scheie)
> 9. Re: esssolo1 linux driver (Petre Scheie)
> 10. Re: mondoarchive in K12LTSP 4.4.1 (Tim Born)
> 11. Re: mondoarchive in K12LTSP 4.4.1 (Tim Born)
> 12. new account and Flash (William Fragakis)
> 13. Nancy E. Willard Audio Interview on Internet Safety
> (Steve Hargadon)
> 14. Re: Opinions on a Forum (Les Mikesell)
> 15. Re: Opinions on a Forum (Meelis Mihhailov)
> 16. Re: Opinions on a Forum (Les Mikesell)
> 17. Re: Opinions on a Forum (Les Mikesell)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:21:44 -0600 (CST)
> From: Barry R Cisna <brcisna at eazylivin.net>
> Subject: [K12OSN] Do anyone here REALLY understand LTSP and remote
> sound?
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <58675.127.0.0.1.1163474505.squirrel at server1>
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> Hi John,
>
> You did not mention what version of K12ltsp/ltsp you are running? Are you
> using esd as the default sound daemon? DO you have ALL pci cards in your
> client machines? Ive found a good starting spot to troubleshoot this,,is
> to install XMMS. This is easy and consistent to test sound on. Once you
> have your sound working on ALL clients through XMMS,, then graduate to
> Flash/ Rhythmbox,Totem, Xine, Mplayer etc. But the BIG thing is use XMMS
> and <esd> as the sound output for xmms /preferences to test sound on each
> client. If you dont do this, you'll end up doing many days of head
> scratching as it sounds you have been doing. Do you check to make sure all
> client machines are set in System>Preferences>More Preferences> Multimedia
> systems selector set to esd,and do you get the Syn "humm' when doing
> atest or what error do you get? You are right in that on v5 of k12ltsp( if
> this is the version of k12ltsp you are using) you have to chmod 755 the
> /dev/dsp and the /dev/mixer to get sound working for "everyone".If you
> like email me off list and i will help in more detail. Lots of little
> things that will work easier such as using totem-xine,rather than the
> default totem,,which uses gstreamer sound .For flash sound you still may
> need to do the " mkdir /tmp/.esd , then touch /tmp/.esd/socket" once in a
> while to keep it working,etc. Ive been doing this gig since early versions
> of k12ltsp,,and still dont know much,,though:)..but sound works on
> everything cept RealPlayer10:(..which does not have esd support..
>
> Barry Cisna
> westcentral school
>
> cisna-barry wc235.k12.il.us
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:56:45 -0600
> From: Les Mikesell <les at futuresource.com>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Opinions on a Forum
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> <k12osn at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1163476604.6235.19.camel at les-home.futuresource.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
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> On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 20:24, Sudev Barar wrote:
> > On 14/11/06, Les Mikesell <les at futuresource.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 15:15 -0600, Petre Scheie wrote:
> > > > Yes, I wish the k12ltsp wiki had a *prominent* link right on the first page of
> > > > k12ltsp.org. OTOH, Ubuntu has Canonical driving it; k12ltsp just has...us. ;-)
> > >
> > > I think it would be even better if www.k12ltsp.org went directly to the
> >
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > My $0.02 worth - No
> > Broadcasts, like mailing list, is much better in increasing knowledge
> > as it also brings to me issues that may not be on fire today but could
> > be a situation in future or a trend that I am not even aware of.
>
> The combination is even better when things that come up and
> are answered on the list are summarized on the wiki for
> easier reference.
>
> > For example I just am replaying mails on this list on backup's and
> > trying to see if backuppc offers better user control without involving
> > IT support like we have to using rsync...and so on.
>
> It does, but you can only map machines to 'owners' who are
> allowed to access the backups of their own machines through
> the web interface. It doesn't go user level on multiuser
> machines, although I suppose you could use the alias feature
> to make each home directory look like a different machine
> if you wanted to go to the trouble.
>
> --
> Les Mikesell
> les at futuresource.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:24:18 -0800
> From: Dan Young <dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Opinions on a Forum
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> <k12osn at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <45595302.2020707 at mesd.k12.or.us>
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> Les Mikesell wrote:
> >> Again, thanks, and I will see how I feel and how others way in at.
> >> Hopefully if I do get a forum up I can put aside enough time to
> >> contribute good topics and set it up with some useful initial
> >> information.
> >
> > Try joining a few dozen mailing lists and forums before you decide
> > which you like better. Forums become very cumbersome when you have
> > more than a couple of interests.
>
> FWIW Les, I agree about forums not scaling and personally hate the idea
> of anything that would balkanize F/OSS in education efforts. Speaking
> just for myself, forums are out for that reason only.
>
> Having said that, the typical geek interaction with mailing lists (e.g.
> filtering on the List-Id header or similar) is _not_ very welcoming or
> obvious to the newcomer. I suppose I could blame the poor mailing list
> support in popular MUAs, but I can't help but wonder how many folks run
> away screaming the first time their INBOXes fill up from joining a
> high-traffic list (imagine (fedora|ubuntu)-users lists for example).
>
> Maybe I'd like to see perhaps pointers to the GMANE interface, as that's
> effectively a BB-type interface to most popular lists. Frankly, I like
> that the conversations on K12OSN don't usually get too "meta" and mostly
> focus on rocking with regard to free software in schools.
>
> --
> Dan Young <dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us>
> Multnomah ESD - Technology Services
> 503-257-1562
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:00:41 +0800
> From: "Jean Phil" <genfil at gmail.com>
> Subject: [K12OSN] esssolo1 linux driver
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
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> My thin client's soundcard is not working properly. On boot up it has a
> fatal error. Module esssolo1 not found. Does any know where I can download
> and how to install it. Thanks!
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:15:17 -0500
> From: William Fragakis <william at fragakis.com>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] User already logged in prompt
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1163510117.15761.7.camel at server.ltsp>
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> Petre is very kind but I've not in decades had an original thought. I
> nicked this off the ltsp wiki or something similar, iirc.
>
> regards,
> William
>
> On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 22:11 -0500, k12osn-request at redhat.com wrote:
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:09:16 -0600
> > From: Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net>
> > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] User already logged in prompt
> > To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> > <k12osn at redhat.com>
> > Message-ID: <4558ED0C.7090007 at maltzen.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> >
> > Having multiple users log in with the same ID is generally a bad idea,
> > because of the
> > problems you're running into. For kindergartners, it would be better
> > to setup the
> > clients to automatically login. To do so, you have to do a small bit
> > of configuration
> > for each client machine, but I don't think it's too hard.
> >
> > Credit where credit is due: Morris Brandon Elementary in Atlanta does
> > this. William
> > Fragakis, who set it up, sent the following to me on configuring it:
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:33:59 -0500
> From: William Fragakis <william at fragakis.com>
> Subject: [K12OSN] Do anyone here REALLY understand LTSP and remote
> sound?
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1163511239.15761.21.camel at server.ltsp>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> I don't understand it but I can point provide you with a bit of insight
> gleaned from my bumps and bruises. the ltsp wiki audio section can be
> very helpful btw.
>
> On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 22:11 -0500, k12osn-request at redhat.com wrote:
>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have been hacking at my sound issue for the better part of 3 days
> > now and
> > I hope someone can point me in the right direction.
> >
> > -problem 1: sound only for root and only on the server itself
> > -problem 2: thin clients don't see ANY sound card (in Gnome) under
> > Preferences>Sound unless I do chmod -R 777 /dev/dsp and chmod -R 777
> > /dev/snd and then they ONLY see the servers Sound card after reboot.
> > Sound
> because (drum roll....), remember, unless you are doing local apps,
> everything is running on the server, so when running sound card
> detection, you are running it on the server.
>
> > has NEVER worked for ANY of the several clients I have tried to use.
> >
> > Sound seems like a VERY difficult nut to crack.
> Not really. We have 8 yr old Compaq desktops and brand new thin clients
> with sound. If you are using GNOME, make sure you are using esd in
> lts.conf and commented out nasd.
>
> When the client boots, right before the display is enabled, see if it
> recognizes and initiates (right word?) the sound card. If it only says
> something like sound card not detected, choose correct sound module or
> something similar (my coffee and memory haven't kicked in this morning)
> you need to list the sound card in the lts.conf file. Most Sound Blaster
> cards are auto recognized though. If yours isn't, google around as lots
> of folks have posted various permutations especially with laptops which
> seem particularly finicky as clients. Many older PCs with built-in sound
> actually use the ISA configuration that's commented out in lts.conf even
> though the motherboard has only PCI slots. We were wonderfully surprised
> when a bunch of old Compaqs barked to life with their little built-in
> speakers recently.
>
> If all else fails, cheap $5 SB-compatible PCI cards from newegg.com work
> fine.
>
> Once you have the sound card recognized, then go on each client and
> (again, drum roll) enable sound in the preferences. It's easy to miss
> this step. Also, look at the ltsp wiki and understand how to turn sound
> on with Flash. It's well explained there.
>
> You don't really need to understand the idea of sound servers, etc to
> get sound working. Understanding it does give you an idea of the
> challenge the ltsp develops had when they began, though.
>
> Regards,
> William
>
> > I see lots of requests that
> > never seem to have resolutions on this list. Is there anyone here who
> > feels
> > like they REALLY understand whats going on with remote sound? This
> > isn't a
> > challenge, just a question, because I feel very much in the dark (and
> > of
> > course if you say 'YES' I am going to start asking you questions! :-)
> >
> > Should I take this to the LTSP list or the LTSP IRC channel?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:45:16 -0600
> From: Burke Almquist <balmquist at mindfirestudios.com>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Opinions on a Forum
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> <k12osn at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <9BA405C5-FB3F-40C1-AFA8-E7FC9C86A499 at mindfirestudios.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> I have to say that I agree. The COMBINATION of a wiki and mailing
> list seems to be better than using a forum. But a forum would be
> better than either a mailing list or wiki alone.
>
> The major weakness of the mailing list is that it not easy to search,
> as it tends to be chronological, and have a lot of noise compared to
> a forum. But the wiki is even better at solving this than a forum/BB
> would be. The major weakness of the wiki is that it doesn't do the
> realtime Q&A like a forum or mailing list. IMHO the mailing list is
> better for fast Q&A than a forum, since all the conversations are
> pushed out rather than pulled. That's why a combination of the wiki/
> mailinglist obviates the need to do a web forum for me.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:03:14 -0600
> From: Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Do anyone here REALLY understand LTSP and remote
> sound?
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> <k12osn at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4559CCA2.3040106 at maltzen.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Actually, if possible, keep the discussion on the list. Questions about sound come up
> frequently, and the more discussion there is on the list, the easier it will be for
> people to find answers when searching the archives.
>
> Petre
>
> Barry R Cisna wrote:
> If you
> > like email me off list and i will help in more detail.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:07:39 -0600
> From: Petre Scheie <petre at maltzen.net>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] esssolo1 linux driver
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> <k12osn at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <4559CDAB.8070702 at maltzen.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Can you boot a knoppix disk on your thin client? If so, does sound work with that? If
> so, run lspci to see what sound driver knoppix is using, then report back to the list.
>
> Petre
>
> Jean Phil wrote:
> > My thin client's soundcard is not working properly. On boot up it has a
> > fatal error. Module esssolo1 not found. Does any know where I can
> > download and how to install it. Thanks!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:36:12 -0600
> From: Tim Born <k12osn at deltacfax.com>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] mondoarchive in K12LTSP 4.4.1
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> <k12osn at redhat.com>, petre at maltzen.net
> Message-ID: <4559D45C.4000806 at deltacfax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> mkcdrec does not appear to be part of K12LTSP 4.4.1
>
> >[root at zorro ~]# yum search mkcdrec
> >Searching Packages:
> >Setting up repositories
> >Reading repository metadata in from local files
> >No Matches found
> >[root at zorro ~]# apropos mkcdrec
> >mkcdrec: nothing appropriate
> >[root at zorro ~]#
> >
>
> Petre Scheie wrote:
>
> > mkcdrec
> >
> > Tim Born wrote:
> >
> >> Tim Born wrote:
> >>
> >>> Has anyone gotten Mondo to work on K12LTSP 4.4.1?
> >>>
> >> I'm the *only* one backing up my system with Mondo ??
> >>
> >> OK, I'll bite. What else makes bare-metal recovery CDs on K12LTSP?
> >>
> >> -tim
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> K12OSN mailing list
> >> K12OSN at redhat.com
> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn
> >> For more info see <http://www.k12os.org>
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > K12OSN mailing list
> > K12OSN at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn
> > For more info see <http://www.k12os.org>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:49:04 -0600
> From: Tim Born <k12osn at deltacfax.com>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] mondoarchive in K12LTSP 4.4.1
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
> <k12osn at redhat.com>, eharrison at mail.mesd.k12.or.us
> Message-ID: <4559D760.2090507 at deltacfax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Eric Harrison wrote:
>
> >Tim Born wrote:
> >
> >
> >>...
> >>
> >>Has anyone gotten Mondo to work on K12LTSP 4.4.1?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >This may be the same issue that can cause install disk verifies to fail
> >(falsely).
> >
> >Try appending "ide=nodma" to the boot options when booting the restore cd.
> >
> >-Eric
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >K12OSN mailing list
> >K12OSN at redhat.com
> >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn
> >For more info see <http://www.k12os.org>
> >
> >
> Tried that option last night with no success. Didn't seem to make any
> difference.
>
> Found an error /var/log/mindi.log that must have been created during the
> backup:
>
> > Warning - /lib/liblvm does not exist; cannot be LDD'd.
> > This warning only affects you if you are using LVM.
>
> That concerns me since we ARE using LVM.
>
> Installed latest FC4 RPMs for mondo & mindi to see if they work any better.
> Backing up still in progress. I will let you know.
> At this point mondo I see that mondo-2.2.0-2 seems to know about IDE
> CDROMs, which is new.
>
> -tim
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:51:29 -0500
> From: William Fragakis <william at fragakis.com>
> Subject: [K12OSN] new account and Flash
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1163515889.16782.9.camel at server.ltsp>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hello all,
> I have a quirk that I can't figure out. Ideas welcome. We set up a new
> account on a ver 5 server (updated from ver. 4). While every other
> account on the server can use Flash in Firefox, the new one can't. I
> even put the plug ins in a local folder /home/thisuser/.mozilla...etc
> and that didn't work. Looking at the pluginreg.dat file, nothing at a
> cursory look seems amiss.
>
> Any ideas? Again, all the existing accounts use Flash fine but new
> accounts (I've tried this a couple of times) can't. Even if I copy an
> entire .mozilla file from another user and change the permissions to
> this user, it won't work.
>
> Sign me,
> Perplexed in the South
> (William)
>
> btw, FreeNX and Teacher_Tool rock as remote management tools. But you
> knew that already...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:58:42 -0800
> From: "Steve Hargadon" <steve.hargadon at gmail.com>
> Subject: [K12OSN] Nancy E. Willard Audio Interview on Internet Safety
> To: schoolforge-discuss at schoolforge.net, "Support list for open source
> software in schools." <k12osn at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <cf97a9210611140658w2eae1e3co7b151eda1f9e14f2 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/NancyWillard.mp3
> http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/NancyWillard.ogg<http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/NancyWillard.mp3>
>
> <http://www.education-world.com/a_issues/issues/images/nwillard_130w.jpg>Over
> the last several months, I've watched
> Nancy's<http://www.csriu.org/about/bio.html>consistent, warning voice
> on the educational technology email lists. I'm
> sure this is not an easy role--at a time when the read-write web is
> challenging educators to find creative ways to take advantage in schools of
> technologies that have become so engaging to our youth outside of school ,
> Nancy keeps talking about hard topics of safe internet use, filtering,
> online predators, disinhibition <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinhibition>,
> and cyberbullying <http://www.cyberbully.org>.
>
> Arranging an interview time with Nancy was difficult--she is the parent of
> three children, and working on finishing two books--but we finally caught up
> last week. I was particularly interested in her concerns about how online
> sexual predation is taught, which she says is often based on the myth that
> the youth who go to meet an online predator are unaware of what is actually
> going to take place. Nancy is also appropriately harsh on the inappropriate
> marketing of sexuality to young women, and she agreed with my concerns (we
> both have thirteen-year-old daughters) about how the movies and media have
> really promoted aggressive sexuality by young women in the last decade. And
> she discusses cyber-bullying, which I hadn't really had any direct
> experience with, but which she describes as very real and very serious.
>
> My wife generally has not had a great deal of interest in my interview
> series (c'mon, isn't everyone excited about educational technology?), but
> she listened to this interview from start to finish. Our thanks to Nancy for
> caring.
>
> EdTechLive.com Interview
> Series<http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/Recordings+List>
>
> <http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/NancyWillard.mp3>Listen
> to the WebCast in MP3
> format<http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/NancyWillard.mp3>
>
> * *Listen to WebCast in Vorbis OGG
> format<http://educationbridges.net/k12opensource/wp-content/uploads/NancyWillard.ogg>
> *Subscribe to this AudioCast:<http://feeds.feedburner.com/K12opensourcesmp3>
> <http://feeds.feedburner.com/K12opensourcesogg>*<http://feeds.feedburner.com/K12opensourcesmp3?format=pcast>
>
> <http://www.videolan.org/vlc>Not sure how to listen MP3/OGG files? Use the free
> VLC Media Player <http://www.videolan.org/vlc>--works on Linux, Windows, and
> Mac.
>
> --
> Steve Hargadon
> steve at hargadon.com
> 916-899-1400 direct
>
> www.SteveHargadon.com - (Blog on Educational Technology)
> www.K12Computers.com - (Refurbished Dell Optiplexes for Schools)
> www.EdTechLive.com (Podcasts, Workshops, & Conferences)
> www.TechnologyRescue.com - (Linux Thin Client Solutions)
> www.LiveKiosk.com - (Web Access and Content Delivery Solutions)
> www.PublicWebStations.com - (Disaster & Shelter WebStation Software)
> www.K12OpenSource.com (Public Wiki)
> www.SupportBlogging.com (Public Wiki)
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:06:41 -0600
> From: Les Mikesell <les at futuresource.com>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Opinions on a Forum
> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
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> On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 07:45 -0600, Burke Almquist wrote:
> > I have to say that I agree. The COMBINATION of a wiki and mailing
> > list seems to be better than using a forum. But a forum would be
> > better than either a mailing list or wiki alone.
>
> I think the real flaw of a forum is that while it is easier for
> someone starting out and barely interested in computer-related
> topics to post their questions there, the answers are more likely
> to come from people who found them because they are watching an
> assortment of related mail lists and don't have time to bounce
> around through forums.
>
> > The major weakness of the mailing list is that it not easy to search,
> > as it tends to be chronological, and have a lot of noise compared to
> > a forum.
>
> I've never seen a forum that was any better at being searched. The
> sound/noise ratio also doesn't seem better to me. If there is less
> noise it is because there is less general interest.
>
> > The major weakness of the wiki is that it doesn't do the
> > realtime Q&A like a forum or mailing list.
>
> That's a weakness in the wiki users, not the platform which lets
> you make it whatever you want it to be.
>
> --
> Les Mikesell
> les at futuresource.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:28:26 +0200
> From: "Meelis Mihhailov" <meelis at nlib.ee>
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Opinions on a Forum
I would say No to a forum. For the same reasons that others have given.
SNIP.....
You can always use the digest option to keep the number of messages
down.
Admittedly digest replies aren't as prompt as individual messages.
My 2c worth.
Bert
> If you get about 50 e-mails in 24 hours (60% of them at the time I'm
> sleeping) then it's a lot of work to filter out the things I want to read
> and things I do not. :)
>
> Meelis
>
>
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