[K12OSN] Uninteruptable Power Supply UPS with Linux

Thu Nov 16 01:31:31 UTC 2006

Thought I would just thank the list for the help to setup my UPS. Today we
had a power outage. One week after I setup my UPS. I got a 1500VA Back-UPS
(not the expensive Smart ones). So I had to set the shutdown timeout in the
conf file.  Hadn't even gotten around to testing it yet. Worked like a charm
doing a clean shutdown today . Talk about luck.

BTW just wondering. Is there any benefit to using ext3 filesystem in a
software RAID1? I know that ext3 is journalled but with a mirror what's the
point if one of the drives completes a write but the other doesn't (due to
power loss). Won't the array still be corrupted? Anyone with experience?

On 10/16/06, Robert Arkiletian <robark at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 10/16/06, James P. Kinney III <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 13:04 -0600, Calvin Dodge wrote:
> > > On 10/16/06, Robert Arkiletian <robark at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Why do you recommend usb over serial?
> > >
> > > The cheaper APCs don't do true serial communication (i.e., sending
> > > data to the computer). Instead, they set certain signals (like CTS,
> > > IIRC) to indicate their condition.
> >
> > It even more complicated than that. The different models transmit
> > differing amounts of data. Whether the data port is serial or usb makes
> > no difference. The Back-UPS vs the Smart-UPS have a large amount of
> > functionality difference. The Backups is simpler and has only a timer
> > function. Once it goes on battery, the timer starts. At the end of the
> > timer, it send the shutdown command to the host.
> >
> > The smartups has much more of a command set. It supports battery
> > condition testing and and can signal a power down when the battery falls
> >
> > below a certain level. More importantly, it can hold of on powering back
> > up until the battery has reached a certain minimum runtime level.
> >
> > On my current install, we have Smart-UPS XL 3000VA RM 3U models that
> > have both serial and USB connectors. The same data is on both ports.
> >
> > One nice thing about these (and all Linux systems can be setup to do
> > this) is when the shutdown command is issued, the apcupsd can be told to
> >
> > also send it to a group of other machines. In my current case, there are
> > several servers that run off the UPS in the rack. If the UPS is going
> > down that powers the main login/NFS-/home machine, every other server
> > will need to also shut down as they will have nothing they can do. If a
> > UPS signals to a boot/app server the remaining app servers can stay up.
> >
> > So the UPS is told power back up when the AC as back and the batteries
> > are back up to enough time to allow a partially booted system to shut
> > down gracefully. The first box up is the NFS server. It will then tickle
> > the other machines with Wake-on LAN calls (as soon as I can finish that
> > process).
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>
> Wow nice info James. Thanks. I really like the fact that one box can tell
> the others to shutdown also. Is this done by setting up ssh keys? There must
> be some kind of auth required.
>
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> >
> > > USB allows for real communication with the host computer, and I
> > > _believe_ that means real data gets sent to that host. For example,
> > > here's the output of "apcaccess" on my workstation:
> > >
> > > APC      : 001,034,0890
> > > DATE     : Mon Oct 16 12:59:50 MDT 2006
> > > HOSTNAME : source-server.prosocial.local
> > > RELEASE  : 3.12.4
> > > VERSION  : 3.12.4 (19 August 2006) redhat
> > > UPSNAME  : source-server.prosocial.local
> > > CABLE    : USB Cable
> > > MODEL    : Back-UPS NS 600
> > > UPSMODE  : Stand Alone
> > > STARTTIME: Fri Oct 13 13:05:46 MDT 2006
> > > STATUS   : ONLINE
> > > LINEV    : 118.0 Volts
> > > LOADPCT  :   0.0 Percent Load Capacity
> > > BCHARGE  : 100.0 Percent
> > > TIMELEFT :  42.8 Minutes
> > > MBATTCHG : 5 Percent
> > > MINTIMEL : 3 Minutes
> > > MAXTIME  : 0 Seconds
> > > LOTRANS  : 088.0 Volts
> > > HITRANS  : 139.0 Volts
> > > ALARMDEL : Always
> > > BATTV    : 13.5 Volts
> > > LASTXFER : Low line voltage
> > > NUMXFERS : 0
> > > TONBATT  : 0 seconds
> > > CUMONBATT: 0 seconds
> > > XOFFBATT : N/A
> > > STATFLAG : 0x07000008 Status Flag
> > > MANDATE  : 2005-12-26
> > > SERIALNO : 3B0601X00177
> > > BATTDATE : 2000-00-00
> > > NOMBATTV :  12.0
> > > FIRMWARE : 18.w1 .D USB FW:w1
> > > APCMODEL : Back-UPS NS 600
> > > END APC  : Mon Oct 16 12:59:51 MDT 2006
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm reasonably certain a serial signal-only connection can't convey
> > > that much information to the host (I've no great emotional stake in
> > > this, and won't complain if somebody can post similar output from a
> > > signal-only UPS).
> > >
> > > >
> > > >  I am using the CentOS 4 based k12ltsp.
> > >
> > > RPMs are available for RHEL3 at the apcupsd site
> > > (
> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54413&package_id=73150
> > ).
> > > I think that's the closest match to CentOS 4 (being directly descended
> >
> > > from RHEL4).
> > >
> > > Calvin
> > >
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