[K12OSN] New installation on an old Server

"Terrell Prudé Jr." microman at cmosnetworks.com
Wed Apr 18 17:24:20 UTC 2007


I will add to this that I *hate* LVM.  Yes, I know it's the RH/Fedora
default, but I don't recommend its use unless you know why you need it. 
If...um...the remnants of dinner ever do happen to enter the air
circulatory system, and you need to use a repair disk to fix things, not
all repair disks support LVMs.  One of my guys found that out the hard
way with CentOS; it required a re-install.

If you don't know for sure why you need LVM, then you don't need it. 
Just use manual partitioning; it is very much supported in RH/Fedora/CentOS.

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EJBoshinski wrote:
> Levi,
>
>     I don't think that this is exactly what you want.  If you look
> closely, you will see that LVM is spanning both your array & the IDE
> drive ( /dev/hdb is your IDE hardrive and it is showing 2 partitions. 
> You would want it to only have a single partition, /dev/hdb1. Have
> another go at it and see if you can force the boot partition to
> consume the entire drive.  I don't have the interface in front of me
> right now, but I "think" you can do a custom partition setup...
>
> HTH,
>
> -ejb
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Kemp, Levi" <lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us>
> To: Support list for open source software in schools. <k12osn at redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:50:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [K12OSN] New installation on an old Server
>
> I hate to reply to myself but I’m at a point where I’m afraid to move
> forward without some input. I cleared the server again with the
> SmartStart CD. I reconfigured the array; I went with Raid 5 this time
> instead of Raid 0. I had already installed the IDE hard drive, but the
> SmartStart said the server did not support fixed disks on IDE. Well I
> decided to try installing Fedora anyways, low and behold the HD is
> present in the drive configuration of the Fedora setup. So basically
> I’m going to list how it is being setup to see if it is correct.
>
>  
>
> LVM Volume Groups
>
>             VolGroup00                                          
>                         61376
>
>                         LogVol00           /                      
> ext3                  59840
>
>                         LogVol01                                  
> swap                 1536
>
> Hard Drives
>
>             /dev/hdb
>
>                         /dev/hdb1          /boot                
> ext3                  102
>
>                         /dev/hdb2          VolGroup00       LVM
> PV            9437
>
>             /dev/ida/c0d0
>
>                         /dev/ida/c0d0p1  VolGroup00       LVM
> PV            52062
>
>  
>
> I’m not sure if the formatting will stay on that so I apologize now if
> it is hard to read. As far as I can tell it is doing exactly what I
> want. The /boot in on the hard drive, the / is on the array, and so is
> the swap. Is the rest of the hard drive being left alone or added to
> the / ? If anyone has time to help me on this I’d appreciate it, like
> I said, I’m still new to Linux in general so I’m still new to drive
> types other than fat and ntfs.
>
>  
>
> Levi Kemp
>
> Technology Specialist
>
> Bolivar R-I School District
>
> 417-328-8943
>
> lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us <mailto:lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Kemp, Levi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:18 AM
> *To:* Support list for open source software in schools.
> *Subject:* RE: [K12OSN] New installation on an old Server
>
>  
>
> Thanks Petre, I hadn't really paid much attention to the partitioning
> till now. I finally got an IDE hard drive in, of course now it's stuck
> recognizing the array as the boot device. Guess I'll have to run the
> SmartStart CD again.
>
>  
>
> Levi
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* k12osn-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Peter Scheie
> *Sent:* Tue 4/17/2007 9:45 AM
> *To:* Support list for open source software in schools.
> *Subject:* Re: [K12OSN] New installation on an old Server
>
> Put / on the array, too, as /usr and /var will be where most of the
> traffic takes place.
>
> Petre
>
> Kemp, Levi wrote:
> > Ok that makes more sense. Now I just need to get an IDE hard drive in
> > that case and use it for /boot and use the SCSI array for /swap and
> > /home. That doesn't sound too complicated, the worst part will be
> > getting the drive in the server. Thanks.
> >
> > Levi
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Peter Scheie
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:20 AM
> >> To: Support list for open source software in schools.
> >> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] New installation on an old Server
> >>
> >> You will get the faster speed of the SCSI drives: booting from an IDE
> >> drive is just to
> >> start the process and load the driver for the SCSI array.  Use the IDE
> >> disk for /boot
> >> and put everything else onto the array.  You might even be able to get
> >> /boot onto the
> >> array, but that takes more wrestling with grub.  Since /boot isn't
> > really
> >> read after the
> >> system is up and running, putting that onto the IDE disk would be
> > simplest
> >> and still get
> >> you what you want.
> >>
> >> Petre
> >>
> >> Kemp, Levi wrote:
> >>> Well I was hoping to be able to use the faster speeds of the SCSI
> >>> drives, but I guess I can just use them as storage. Thanks for the
> >>> advice.
> >>>
> >>> Levi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com]
> > On
> >>>> Behalf Of Steven Santos
> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:58 PM
> >>>> To: Support list for open source software in schools.
> >>>> Subject: RE: [K12OSN] New installation on an old Server
> >>>>
> >>>> Easy answer: install another boot device.
> >>>>
> >>>> For whatever reason, you can't boot to the RAID array.  I have had
> >>> enough
> >>>> RAID issues in the past to know that sometimes it just won't work.
> >>> Keep
> >>>> hunting down why, but to make it just work install another boot
> >>> device.
> >>>> Install a cheep IDE drive, bootable USB stick, something, anything
> >>> else
> >>>> that
> >>>> you can use to boot to the point that Linux can use that RAID
> > array.
> >>>>   _____
> >>>>
> >>>> Steven Santos
> >>>> Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
> >>>> Email: Steven at SimplyCircus.com
> >>>>  Mail: 14 Pierrepont Road
> >>>>        Newton , MA 02462
> >>>> Phone: 617-527-0667
> >>>>   Web: www.SimplyCircus.com <http://www.SimplyCircus.com>
> <http://www.SimplyCircus.com <http://www.simplycircus.com/>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com
> > [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com]On
> >>>>> Behalf Of Kemp, Levi
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:35 PM
> >>>>> To: Support list for open source software in schools.
> >>>>> Subject: RE: [K12OSN] New installation on an old Server
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, after installing a PCI video card I was able to get through
> > an
> >>>>> entire installation. Both NICs were recognized; even the raid
> > array
> >>> was
> >>>>> seen and used as it had been setup for just one drive. I rebooted,
> >>> the
> >>>>> server tried as always to PXE boot then asked me to hit H to boot
> >>> from
> >>>>> the hard drive. At which time it then told me Non-System disk or
> >>> disk
> >>>>> error. There is nothing in the floppy or CD drive, or even the
> > tape
> >>>>> drives. Anyone have a thought as to what may have gone wrong? I'm
> >>> about
> >>>>> to give up on this server, I was hoping that with maxing the RAM
> > in
> >>> it I
> >>>>> could get a decent LTSP set up for nearly zero cost as we have
> > more
> >>> than
> >>>>> enough iPaqs for clients and this server is just collecting dust.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Levi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com
> > [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com]
> >>> On
> >>>>>> Behalf Of Dan Young
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:54 AM
> >>>>>> To: Support list for open source software in schools.
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] New installation on an old Server
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kemp, Levi wrote:
> >>>>>>> Has anyone installed K12LTSP or any distribution on a Compaq
> >>>>> Proliant
> >>>>>>> 3000 before? I finally got the Array straightened out and forced
> >>> it
> >>>>>>> to boot to a CD, but now in the installation itself I am left
> >>>>> viewing
> >>>>>>> maybe 50% of the screen. Is there a way to adjust the resolution
> >>> in
> >>>>>>> the installation? Or should I start over and go command line
> >>>>>>> installation? This is so annoying, making it boot to CD again
> >>> will
> >>>>>>> pretty much cause me to start over. I'm considering installing a
> >>> PCI
> >>>>>>> video card, in case that is the issue. Any thoughts?
> >>>>>> Either try "linux vesa" or "linux text".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Dan Young <dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us>
> >>>>>> Multnomah ESD - Technology Services
> >>>>>> 503-257-1562
> >>>>>>
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