[K12OSN] OT: thoughts on running vista through K12LTSP

Wed Apr 11 15:27:06 UTC 2007

I have been ordered to test a certain VPN client on Vista.  Here is my
verdict:

Do not run Vista if you can possibly avoid it.  Stay the hell away. 
Caleb's comments below are all correct, and here's another little
tidbit.  In order to run it--just the OS, nothing more--you need 512MB. 
To even *think* of running Microsoft Office on it, you need 1GB.  To do
anything useful, you need 2GB.  One of our vendors just last night
described to me how he needed 2GB to run their enterprise apps on Vista.

STAY AWAY FROM VISTA.

If you're going to give the "powers that be" a real Vista system, then
do so...but Caleb's right, let 'em see what it's really like on a real,
i. e. _non-fantasy_ system.  Give 'em MS Office and whatever else they
want...but only in 512MB DRAM.  Why?  That's all XP needed to be
functional, right?  Yes, indeed, let them see what it's *really* like. 
When they complain, just tell 'em it was sold as "Vista ready."

I'm always amazed at these non-technical PHB's wanting to tell the
techies how to do our jobs...when if we were to tell them how to teach,
they would react as if we'd just committed an act of terrorism....

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Caleb Wagnon wrote:
> If I may chime in here....get the "powers that be" one true vista system to play with and watch them recoil. My experience in these parts has been as people get new computers for home they bring them to me to blow away and stick XP on. They were begging for windows XP when it was the new thing. However with Vista my users say to me "We're not going to have to use Vista *here* are we?"
>
> They hate all the "stupid security popups" and the "stupid circle cursor that won't go away" =)
>
> Thanks Microsoft for becoming so out of touch with your consumers that you are inadvertently promoting alternative operating systems....
>
> There's no way to rationally virtualize vista and get excellent performance. Certainly not in a terminal environment. 
>
>
> Caleb Wagnon
> Technology Coordinator
> Fordyce Schools
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>>>> <cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us> 4/11/2007 9:31 AM >>>
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> Levi,
>
> I was just trying to see if anyone had tried running Vista via any VM
> software. I thought if it were possible to run on top of Linux, such as
> replacing a fresh IMG for example if the primary IMG gets hosed might be
> less maintenance,etc. As you stated I m afraid you couldnt get enough ram
> sticks shoved inside the server to provide the amount of available ram to
> run many concurrent connections for Vista. I m just curious more than
> anything if this has been attempted in any school scenarios? The powers
> that be, would like to have a few pcs ( 20-25),with Vista for next school
> year,so was just pondering options.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barry Cisna
>
>
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