[K12OSN] Any LTSP users in the San Francisco area?

Tue Dec 11 23:42:41 UTC 2007

I did the actual installation on the server, as it was a Windows 2003
Server with Citrix Presentation Server installed. 

I did try copying the folder over to the LTSP Server and I used
Crossover for SRC but the performance was horrible, if one student
logged in the performance was really shaky. I know Crossover uses Wine
to run Windows applications but does it add something that would slow
down applications? I tried it with 98/2000/XP bottles also.

Thanks for all the information by the way.

Cody

>>> "Kemp, Levi" <lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us> 12/11/07 11:08 AM >>>
We do use wine to run SRC. But it uses the native Macromedia Flash
Player. Let's back up some more on this. How did you install SRC on your
server? I took the SRC folder from a windows installation and dropped it
on my server and made it available for all the users. I actually do the
same for all the windows stations as well, to save time, and to keep
from installing old versions of flash, QuickTime, and adobe reader. Is
that where we differ? I never actually installed the client in the .wine
folder since nothing has to reside in the system32 folder. All wine does
is call the executable which in turn calls the flash player. Seems like
an unnecessary step, but I didn't program it ;-)

Levi Kemp
Technology Specialist
Bolivar R-1 Schools
417-328-8943
lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us

"The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and
buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even
too sure about that one"  

        --Dennis Hughes, FBI
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Subject: RE: [K12OSN] Any LTSP users in the San Francisco area?

So how are you opening SRC? You don't use wine or crossover? 

Could you provide a little more detail as to how you are using SRC? 

I recently just got a set of the Novell OES Reading Counts server disks,
I haven't installed it yet because the database server is also a Citrix
terminal server (for now). 

Cody

>>> "Kemp, Levi" <lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us> 12/07/07 8:31 PM >>>
Really? It's sluggish for you? I've had at least 20 maybe 25 using it at
one time with any major problems with performance. I have more trouble
on some xp clients that are in a bad section of network(Poor functioning
media converters). That is because the "client" software for enterprise
edition is really just a flash player that pulls all the info from the
server through http. I'm hoping with the new flash plugin I'll see even
better performance since my reading counts uses the native flash player,
not a wine/crossover player. I'll admit we only have SRC and SRI though,
not Read 180 which is apparently a bigger hassle to get going. There is
supposed to be a Novell(SUSE) server solution for SRI/SRC but for some
reason we still went with a server 2003 setup. I still wonder if it
would work even better that way though.

Levi Kemp
Technology Specialist
Bolivar R-1 Schools
417-328-8943
lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us

"The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and
buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even
too sure about that one"  

		--Dennis Hughes, FBI

-----Original Message-----
From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Cody Grosskopf
Sent: Fri 12/7/2007 3:29 PM
To: k12osn at redhat.com
Subject: RE: [K12OSN] Any LTSP users in the San Francisco area?

Levi,

I haven't read much on what others have been working on with Reading
Counts, are you talking a Wine/Crossover solution? We are using the
Enterprise Version 1.1 and we have it working with Crossover, but the
performance is very sluggish when 24 students are using it. 

I would love to get rid of Citrix (as well as all Windows apps), how are
you doing it?

Cody

>>> "Kemp, Levi" <lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us> 12/07/07 8:18 AM >>>
Cody,

 I'm sure you've read what others have been working on with Reading
Counts, what version of Reading Counts are you running? I know it very
easy to get the latest version up, but I was also able to get the
previous version going as well. Just shoot me an email if you are
interested in ditching the citrix solution, or at least comparing the
performance.

Levi Kemp
Technology Specialist
Bolivar R-1 Schools
417-328-8943
lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us

"The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and
buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even
too sure about that one"  

		--Dennis Hughes, FBI

-----Original Message-----
From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Cody Grosskopf
Sent: Wed 12/5/2007 10:13 AM
To: k12osn at redhat.com
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Any LTSP users in the San Francisco area?

I work for a medium sized school district in Northern California, we
have been using LTSP for almost one year now. I will say that it has
been a bumpy ride and there has been a lot of frustration along the way,
we a just at a point where the performance is acceptable but we have a
special case where we have to use Citrix to present one windows
application called Reading Counts, and the performance still leaves a
lot to be desired from that side of it. We currently have one whole
school using Wyse Thin Clients and LTSP, this includes a 24 station lab
and I think about 25 teacher workstations. We also have another 34
workstation lab at another school.

That being said I think LTSP is great!

Cody

>>> Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> 12/03/07 9:17 PM >>>
Anyone in the Bay Area using LTSP in a school setting?

Thanks,

-- 
Bill Moseley
moseley at hank.org

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