[K12OSN] general acceptance of k12ltsp in schools

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and from what I have seen the switch to K12ltsp will be less of a problem
and easier than a switch to Vista..

Bob


On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, John Lucas wrote:

> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:09:35 -0400
> From: John Lucas <mrjohnlucas at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Support list for open source software in schools.
>     <k12osn at redhat.com>
> To: k12osn at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] general acceptance of k12ltsp in schools
>
> On Tuesday 09 January 2007 03:32, Terrell Prudé Jr. wrote:
> > I have heard all of the following:
> >
> > "Look, we have to prepare our children for the 'real world', and the
> > 'real world' uses Microsoft."
> > "Microsoft is the standard.  Employers are demanding that schools teach
> > the standard."
> >
>
> They need to remember when the "standard" was Word Perfect, and before that
> the standard was WordStar. Teaching concepts is more important than teaching
> particular applications.
>
> > "Nobody got fired for buying Microsoft."
> >
>
> But perhaps they should :-} It used to be "nobody got fired for buying IBM".
> Things change. Evolve or die.
>
> > "Linux is for techies."
> >
>
> Why is that a bad thing? Linux is not *just* for techies.
>
> > "Will it work with <insert special pet application>?"
>
> Ask them if they have a site license for their special pet application (did
> they bring enough for everybody :-}
>
> > "Where's Internet Explorer?  Where's my Outlook?  I can't take time to
> > figure this out, I have to do real work!"
> >
>
> "Oh, those are the applications letting in all that malware, didn't you know?"
>
> > "We'd have to retrain all our staff!  That's expensive, we don't have
> > funding or time for that!" <Note: they seem to have no problem spending
> > big bucks for Windows training.>
> >
>
> In my experience, many staff members were never trained in the first place and
> they learn from each other.
>
> >
> > Of course, the mindset that you have to turn 3rd graders into "good
> > little employees" is a little frightening to me....
> >
>
> Yes. If anyone thinks that the software world will be anything like today when
> these 3rd graders are ready to go into the workforce has not been paying
> attention to the rate of change; five years is an eternity in computer
> technology.
>
> > --TP
> > _______________________________
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> > Microsoft Free since 2003 <http://www.gnu.org/>--the ultimate antivirus
> > protection!
> >
> > Barry Cisna wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I posed this question about a year ago, and am wonedering what others
> > > have found,that work in the trenches, since there have been a lot more
> > > people come on board to k12ltsp.
> > > How has the administrative and teachers in general accepted k12ltsp in
> > > your school? I'd like to hear actual "comments". Here is a scenario at
> > > our school. Of course most teachers are very offish because " Its not
> > > MS$". The last superintendent was very receptive to Linux/K12LTSP, but
> > > having consolidated and a new super,I heard was " Well whether you like
> > > it or not,it's a MS$ world out there". Enough said. How do you get any
> > > farther than that?:(. Also Ive heard "It's free"? Mind turning,,, it must
> > > not be worth much:(. Or "How much longer will it be free".
> > > You can show all involved the benefits of the Educational software
> > > bundled for all age ranges,right out of the box,in K12LTSP,but seems to
> > > not offset it,, not being branded MS$. I've found if you told the higher
> > > ups its going to cost thousands of $$ to get k12ltsp going they would
> > > listen much more. Don't make sense but thats the way it seems.
> > > Here's a good point too. I talk to an old timer on the phone for
> > > hardware, that is a long time Linux guru,,that had his own business and
> > > is a world traveler, He told me that the US would be the last country to
> > > "flip" to accepting Linux,because the US is so "commercialized". Im
> > > seeing he makes very much sense.:)You people in Europe/Asia/etc, are a
> > > step ahead,in thinking i can see!:).
> > >
> > > Just curious what others have heard when trying to roll out K12LTSP in
> > > your schools.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Barry Cisna
> > >
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