[K12OSN] Terminal Services Licenses for rdesktop

[Petre Scheie]

To me, this whole discussion illustrates why using any Windows-based software is a bad 
idea.  Not only is it hard to figure out the licensing--which means you spend a lot of 
time thinking about it, trying to figure it out, and time is money--but no matter which 
licensing structure you conclude, it then costs more money to implement, perhaps much 
money, money that most likely could be put to much better use.  Do they *really* need 
this app, or do they just want it?  Extra costs hurting the children?  Ask them which 
teacher is going to take the paycut to pay for the software.  Given those stark contrast 
terms, they might look hard for an alternative.

Petre

David Hopkins wrote:
> Taking this further OT:  And thus my concern that I might not win the 
> court case.  I guess we need to find someone with deep pockets and a 
> willingness to contest the way MS has stated the license?  Or, just hope 
> that enough bad publicity with the attempt to collect from schools 
> (think of how the extras costs are hurting the children?) could open up 
> a chance to showcase OSS?  Probably not the best approach since it is 
> based on provoking someone else.
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/28/07, *Sudev Barar* <sbarar at gmail.com <mailto:sbarar at gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>     On 26/01/07, Rusty Pywtorak <rusty at enveloptech.com
>     <mailto:rusty at enveloptech.com>> wrote:
>      > > So the question is - Do I have to purchase these Terminal Services
>      > Client Licenses?
>      >
>      > Yes. Terminal services (on 2003) can be licensed either per seat
>     or per
>      > user. The per seat license is a per device license so every
>     device that
>      > connects takes a license (doesn't matter whether it is linux or
>     Mac or
>      > whatever).
> 
>     With this and the old thread recalled this is very much clear that you
>     need TCAL's.
> 
>     Question really is can "per device" be taken to imply the server since
>     the MS sessions control (or what ever it is called which refuses
>     connection when numbers go in excess of registered licenses) reads all
>     request coming from one server as one connection? Dave (and others)
>     confirms that RDP sessions from all terminals under LTSP show as
>     connection from one machine to Window$.
> 
>     SO while the M$ rep would want to improve his revenue (and history
>     shows he will not likely interpret otherwise) the final decider could
>     hinge on "What would be the situation if there are two RDP sessions
>     launched form one client?"
> 
>     Do you need a license for every RDP session and not every
>     seat(machine)? Else one license is sufficient as their software is
>     only recognizing multiple sessions from single machine as one
>     connection.
> 
>     Conjecture: While M$ rolled out per seat license to accommodate
>     corporates and schools (where per computer there are many users) they
>     perhaps did not envisage this sort of situation.
> 
>     Safe approach: What I would like to do is put synopsis across to a M$
>     guy and ask for a written reply. If in future it turns out I was given
>     wrong advise then may be some claims could be pressed.
> 
>     Brave approach: I would say as consumers (customers) you should
>     interpret what benefits you unless expressly prohibited. This is like
>     people taking advantage of airfares / holidays at cheap prices because
>     of wrong price listing by seller. Those that have booked and paid get
>     the benefit.
> 
>     This of course is my view point and needs some more thought.
> 
>     --
>     Regards,
>     Sudev Barar
> 
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