[K12OSN] Support for Etherboot on 486's with ISA NICs

Mon Jul 2 19:21:36 UTC 2007

2007/7/2, Doug Simpson <simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us>:
>
> I killed the other DHCP server. There is only one running at a time.
>
> Thanks for the input. . .
>
> P.S. I did finally get it to take the boot as far as the NIC is concerned,
> but now am trying to get X to load.


Set up the xdmcp to remote in system > log screen input (grafic mode)
Reboot gdm or the server

. .
>
> Progress. . .
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Doug
>
>
> Doug Simpson
> Technology Specialist
> De Queen Public Schools
> De Queen, AR
> simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us
> >>> "Alberto Castillo" <proyecto.edulin at gmail.com> 07/02/07 1:14 PM >>>
> Man I suppose that you have 2 dhcp servers running....
> maybe thats is the problem...
> Your client target to other dhcp server that no have the option to handle
> old isa netcards...
> I have long time ago this ttrouble.... A router has a dhcp server too...
> and
> when ltsp boot ask for second time dhcp appear this error: no nic...
> kernel
> panic... etc etc...
> The presence of other dhcp server running is the problem...
> I try to help with my little acknoweldge...
> Greetings.
>
> 2007/7/2, Doug Simpson <simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us>:
> >
> > Read inline. . .
> >
> > Doug Simpson
> > Technology Specialist
> > De Queen Public Schools
> > De Queen, AR
> > simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us
> > >>> "Alberto Castillo" <proyecto.edulin at gmail.com> 07/02/07 12:54 PM >>>
> > 2007/7/2, Doug Simpson <simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us>:
> > >
> > > I was referring to booting with Etherboot floppies like you can get
> from
> > > Rom-O-Matic. These have always worked for me in the past, but not at
> all
> > in
> > > 6.0.0.
> > >
> > > One one particular one, for example, it boots from the floppy,
> (normal)
> > > gets an IP via DHCP, (normal) loads the kernel, (normal) and then
> fails
> > with
> > > the "kernel panic" because it can't load the NIC.  I know how to
> > configure
> > > for that and it is done, but it doesn't work. There is a 3com card in
> > there
> > > and the option lines are configured, and the workstation has entries
> in
> > the
> > > /etc/lts.conf to load the 3com card. like"NIC=3c509". And it doesn't
> > > work.  I have tried several different cards, adjusting the configs for
> > each
> > > but to no avail.
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> > Remember that in 6.0 k12 refers their dhcpd.conf that
> dhcpd-k12ltsp.confor
> > something  that .
> >
> > Got it, but here at work, where I am testing 6.0.0 before trying it ah
> > home. . . DHCP is actually running from another server (this has also
> worked
> > fine with older versions of K12LTSP, so I know it is configured
> correctly).
> >
> > It says:
> > >
> > > ERROR! Could not automatically detect the network card.
> > > input:ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input1
> > > PCI cards. . .etc.etc.etc
> > > Usually specified in option-129, in the
> > > /etc/dhcpd.conf file. See . . . docs for info. . .
> > >
> > > Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempting to kill init!
> >
> >
> > Just see in /etc/dhcpd-k12ltsp.conf....
> > Other thing: with boot it etherboot, in the first lines, before de dots,
> > see
> > the correct address like: 0x300 or other particular address that offer
> > your
> > ether-nic and copy to the dhcp conf file.
> >
> > Port is set (0x300) and I also tried adding the irq settings for the
> > various irq possibilities, to no avail.
> > I have the option-129 line set correctly.
> >
> >
> > see in dhcp-k12ltsp.conf.....
> >
> > I have the right computer name set in dhcpd.conf and also in the
> > lts.conf for this particular workstation.
> >
> > Will check again, but I am sure these are correct. . .
> > >
> > > All to no avail.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply. . .
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > Doug Simpson
> > > Technology Specialist
> > > De Queen Public Schools
> > > De Queen, AR
> > > simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us
> > > >>> "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com> 07/02/07
> 11:50
> > > AM >>>
> > > Doug,
> > >
> > > Once you get into antique hardware :) the rules change. PXE and
> > > etherboot were not around at that time (I don't think) so getting them
> > > to work is a serious challenge. The most used process is to have some
> > > other method of booting available (floppy or CD or even a hidden flash
> > > card with an IDE adapter.)
> > >
> > > Some really old stuff _may_ be able to netboot _if_ the add-on network
> > > card has a boot rom AND the mainboard is able to handle that. You
> would
> > > need to have the "corporate" pc's as the home user style would not
> have
> > > the BIOS capability.
> > >
> > > By the time you get to an ide-flash adapter plus flash card you are
> > > halfway to a new, tiny thin client that is very low power and fanless.
> > > The power savings alone would cover the additional cost over a couple
> of
> > > years. Plus desktop real estate is at a premium as well.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:27 -0500, Doug Simpson wrote:
> > > > Hey guys!
> > > >
> > > > Has support for 486 computers and ISA NICs been dropped from
> K12LTSP?
> > > > I have been unable to get it to work with many different NICs and
> > > several computers.
> > > >
> > > > When you say use "old hardware" I take that to mean "old hardware".
> > Some
> > > of the stuff they talk about on there as being "old hardware" is
> > generations
> > > newer than the newest stuff I have.
> > > >
> > > > Being able to "just upgrade the server" when you need newer stuff,
> > > should be just that. There are a lot of 486s that work great as
> terminal
> > > clients, but if they will no longer work, there goes the ability to
> use
> > "old
> > > hardware" which really puts poor people like me at a disadvantage.
> > > >
> > > > I have ran versions from 3.x and up and have been very satisfied.
> > > Install, and within a few minutes, I can usually get the "old
> hardware"
> > > working. A few more minutes and I can get sound working (usually).
> > > >
> > > > Hasn't happened yet with version 6.0.0.
> > > >
> > > > Could it be simple as making it boot a slightly older kernel than
> > 2.6.x?  Will
> > > 2.4.x work on a 486 where 2.6.x won't?
> > > >
> > > > Getting thin on top. . .
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > > Doug Simpson
> > > > Technology Specialist
> > > > De Queen Public Schools
> > > > De Queen, AR
> > > > simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us
> > > >
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