[K12OSN] Windows Terminal Services

[David Hopkins]

I don't agree with this way of viewing it. Rdesktop is running from LTSP
server. And, if you go to the Terminal Services Licensing Manager on the
Windows TS, you'll see exactly 1 connection showing up, not matter how many
thin clients are connected.  I have 3 LTSP servers, and the most I have ever
had is 3 licenses being used, even with 150 thin clients in use.  I think MS
didn't think of this loophole.

On 7/10/07, Krsnendu dasa <krsnendu108 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you run the screen script, isn't rdesktop running as a local
> application on the terminal? If so it would have a different ip
> address. i.e. another device
>
> Of course if you run it through the server it would have the same ip
> address, but as Rob mentions below they have probably set it up that
> you can't access more than once from one ip address.
>
> On 11/07/07, Rob Owens <rowens at ptd.net> wrote:
> > Personally I think that if MS's technical measures don't prevent the
> > "one device loophole", then it is ok to do.  Like you said, I'm sure MS
> > would want you to pay more, but the fact seems to be that they
> > overlooked this--and that's their problem.
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 11:41:27AM -0400, David Hopkins wrote:
> > > A question I asked about the licence, but is dicey is that the device
> cals
> > > cover 'per device'.  From the windows side, every terminal session
> coming in
> > > via rdesktop from you LTSP server looks like it is all coming from 1
> device,
> > > so technically it probably meets the license requirements though I am
> sure
> > > MS wants to you pay for every client device and not for the terminal
> server
> > > itself.  I carry enough TSCALS/CALS to cover my thin clients, but I
> guess
> > > some brave soul could argue the technical aspects with MS if they
> wanted.
> > > Seems MS pulls the same tricks when it is in their favor.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Dave Hopkins
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/9/07, "Terrell Prudé Jr." <microman at cmosnetworks.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Roger Morris wrote:
> > > >
> > > >John Lucas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 09 July 2007 09:28, Timothy Legge wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > >What is the deal with terminal Services again?  I believe I need the
> > > >following:
> > > >
> > > >1) Windows Server
> > > >2) Device/Client Cals for Windows
> > > >3) Device/Client Cals for Terminal Services.
> > > >
> > > >I will be connecting via rdesktop, I assume that is okay as long as
> > > >the above is properly licensed.
> > > >
> > > >Anything else required?
> > > >
> > > >       Only to configure Terminals Services for "Application mode",
> > > >       otherwise the
> > > >default is "Administrative mode" which only allows 2 simultaneous
> users.
> > > >
> > > >     to elaborate a little.  in 'admin' mode, no CAL is required,
> right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Correct.  You get two CAL's with admin mode automatically...but only
> two.
> > > >Furthermore, if you've got a userID logged in at the console, then
> that
> > > >counts as a session.  Thus, Windows XP will give you only one
> terminal
> > > >server session.  Dunno how that applies to Windows Server; might be
> > > >similar.
> > > >
> > > >--TP
> > > >
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